TartarusMkII

Right, of course probes can't get samples and reports like Kerbonaughts can, but I wonder what some optimal set ups are for flybys? I find that the goo containers only give so little, and the material bay is so big!

Aye but what about for probes? Unmanned?

Hey guys thanks a ton for your advice! Especially SRV Ron for taking those pictures! I am curious still though, is there any purpose to doing fly-bys with probes, or do you HAVE to land on things with the probes for them to do anything useful? It should not confuse me because only some planets have biomes right now, but still. Also, is there any purpose to taking more than one science module? Or do they counter act eachother in the end?

I was confused by that when I tried it myself. If I need to burn retrograde to allow myself to be captured into a circular orbit, wouldn't I be moving the fastest at the periapsis?

Hehe no, but I still have to slow myself down to be captured by the Mun. I'll watch some more videos. It's weird, I feel like I have to re-learn this stuff all the time. I've been playing KSP on and off for a long while now! Oh well. Thanks again for the help. If anyone wants to share any more tips about getting science points. I'm all ears.

Hi thanks again for sharing some tips! I generally already knew most of that, but I notice I have issues planning the right time to intercept with the moon so I am not traveling too fast upon entry. I end up spending too much fuel trying to control my time in Mun's SOI.

As of my reading, it does not appear as though you have a signature! =[

I sent a probe to the Mun but failed to land properly. And I ended up confusing myself anyway. I only brought a thermometer for some dumb reason, just to see if I could land the probe there at all. I've played KSP for a long while but I admit I was never too ambitious, so I'm not very experienced =P I am a bit confused at how to land a probe on the Mun with a bunch of experiments while also keeping it sort of small and not as weighty. Otherwise I mine as well send a Kerbonaut there.

Thanks a lot, Rob! Can you tell me more about how to use them in action groups properly? I notice that I can't queue up transmissions. I can only send out one, then wait for the antenna to come back down, then send another. Thanks!

Cool, thanks a lot! I'll give all these things a try. Much obliged!

Hah, thanks for the link, mate. How do I make use of probes that land on the surface of the Mun? I am sorta confused by that. Is it as simple as bringing a goo container along, or something?

Thanks for the input. Do you know any more about how space craft get science for how far they've traveled? I want a reason to recover these ships! Thanks again.

I sent a few missions to the Mun, which have all left the kerbonauts stranded in Mun's orbit. But anyhow, I got a whole bunch of science by beaming back information about the goo and the material bay "high above" the Mun. That allowed me to research two other things, neither of which will really help me get closer to the moon. Now I am frustrated again just as I was when I typed up the first post. Why are such simple pieces of a rocket, even those that only serve purposes like simple metal structures to hold pieces together, so high up on the tech tree? I just imagine that the tech tree would not be nearly as odd were it not so difficult to get hundreds of science. I guess I should elaborate some. What confuses me is this: where exactly is the science supposed to come from? I seem to have already depleted all of the science that high Mun orbit can give me, and it was so little. What am I missing?

Heya, I have been playing KSP .22 since it game out, in career mode with a handful of mods that are compatible, and linked to the tech tree. I started the game by flying around on Kerbin, getting soil samples and goo/material readings from as many biomes as I could, and managed to get a few tiers into the tech tree. But then I was thinking, what next? On the wiki for the science system, it reads that ships bring back science on their own depending on "how far they've traveled." So I tried putting a ship into orbit, warping for a few days of time, and then bringing him back down. I got less than two points of science! So, I figured maybe it means distance away from Kerbin? So I made a drastic orbit to throw my ship far away from Kerbin, past the Mun, and managed to land it down safely again. But even still, I got a minuscule amount of science. Now I am stuck. I know I can travel to the moon and start getting data from various biomes on the moon, but will that run out too? I don't want to get info and samples, send them back, and then have nothing else to do afterwards. What am I supposed to be doing? Should I not be bringing things back to Kerbin? Should I only be sending it via transmission? I am confused about it, but I read that transmitting data does not lower the amount its worth over time (by repeating the experiment)? Can anyone give me more info as to how I am supposed to properly grow my science coffers? Thanks!

Heya, Experiencing two crashes. One on the initial load, and then one at an odd place. In career mode, I've got a craft that has done an orbit and is about to try to land in a desert. Every time the craft gets to around 500m, the altitude to open it's chute, the game will close and give a similar error, but not exactly the same. Both say out of memory, but as SilverWarior mentioned, it's not clear to me whether it is RAM or graphical memory. I should add that I get the game to load by, of course, removing some of the mod part packs. The crash in-game occurs with only one parts pack loaded, however. I am using 64 bit windows 7, with a GeForce GTX 560 Ti, and 4GB of RAM. Load Error: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69583036/Data/Forum%20Resources/KSP/LoadError/error.log https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69583036/Data/Forum%20Resources/KSP/LoadError/output_log.txt Reentry Error: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69583036/Data/Forum%20Resources/KSP/ReentryError/error.log https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69583036/Data/Forum%20Resources/KSP/ReentryError/output_log.txt Thanks for taking a look!

I disagree; while many parts are just structure and filler, who's to say that using mods with functionality will become more difficult in the future when the game is more developed, and more people are making mods for it? There will always be an un-official ceiling of how many mods you must choose through based on an invisible crashing threshold.

That's understandable, but I am wondering if it is necessary to have all the parts loaded into the ram simultaneously. I am not a programmer, nor a computer technician, so I am not trying to implicate that it's what SQUAD should be doing, but I am wondering if perhaps that is an option?

Heya, I just decided to install a bunch of mods to KSP, and was surprised to find that the game has a much lower capacity for modded parts than I expected. I have to cut out a great deal of mods I wanted to use because my system runs out of memory that easily. I currently have 4GB of RAM, and I am well aware that it is not a lot of ram anymore. However, I am a bit concerned for the future of KSP! Can anyone tell me if they're aware that SQUAD will make any attempts to change how parts are managed in the future? I am sort of disheartened at the idea that every single part needs to be loaded into the RAM. Seems kind of... unnecessary to me. Any info to share? Thoughts?

Agreed on all of this. Nice work.

I looked into it, and this program, JSGME does seem to be exactly what I was looking for, and it seems very useful for KSP. I recommend SQUAD look into it's use, because it has a lot of features built in meant for developers, such as having the program respond to command line parameters, allowing a game (KSP) to manipulate the program as well. It is specifically meant to be free, it seems, too. Thanks again!

I just read a little bit about JSGME; is this something you can use universally for anything like this? It's a bit confusing at first.

I guess I could do that, I thought for some reason there would be a better way. Also, out of curiosity, does anyone know about such known bugs involving mods? I mean, I know I can search it, but I am stumped trying to think of the proper way to explain it in short words! I can buy the first command module with science points, but then the page for building in the VAB says I still need to research it.

Heya, I started using a lot of mods in version .21, which worked out just fine! But now having those mods in place with version .22 causes the research screen in Career mode to act very strangely. Though I have no tried it, I assume using a clean install would fix those issues. I am wondering if anyone knows of an easy simpler way to move my files in and out of the steam folder in an efficient way, to consider the game either modded or not modded. Any thoughts? Thanks!