heh I suppose \'overpowered\' is a term most kerbals don\'t know. My point was that if you reach orbit with a spare fuel tank left over then you may gain more speed with 1 less fuel tank as opposed to 1 more engine due to the almighty struggle of Power vs Weight. --For getting to orbit from the Mun\'s surface-- you can safely orbit as low as about 10,000m so get the Ap there by aiming your ship at the 270 mark (West) and watch the map until you get an ap of 10,000m. kill the engine and wait until you get close then burn towards the green circle again until you get the circular orbit as you did on Kerbin but at a lower altitude. Now wait until Kerbin is on the Mun\'s horizon to the West (should be in front of you) and burn towards the green circle until you see the map change again so you are going to be under Kerbin\'s gravity again. Should be simple from there. To get to the Mun you should head to the East as any other direction makes it very difficult because... 1. The Mun orbits Kerbin to the East 2. It gives you the largest window to get into the Muns gravity Edit: formatting