jordguitar

Let me say this because some of this does affect me. Most of this is a result of this one thing: This was a problem and yes the first 2 threads from armadillo were way out there. I brought this up simply because he removed the mention of the WTFPL licence then shortly after that calling it garbage. I posted reasons why it was a valid licence and kept everything else off this forum. This is where it began to snowball. I can not comment on what else he has done but this is (and still is) a valid concern over new rules he posted and then beginning to dictate what content creators can and can not do with what licence they can use. I am done with this whole thing in a public view on this forum. If the mods wish to talk about it with me then PM me.

There is also another problem of this notice being in a place where it affects people the most (as in all add-on sub-forums).

In the end there are people who do not understand and of this (and probably will not for years) and there are mods that simply are not updated anymore but still work. These new rules should be enforced on new mods and mods that are being constantly updated. The rest should be grandfathered and assumed to be some sort of licence that protects the creator. That would include locking their thread with a notice to have it unlocked to have a licence lined up. In the end this problem will still continue and will be a problem off the site. Yes it is nice to have people who know how to pick a correct licence out but lets be honest here, most likely the average user age on this forum is quite low and there needs to be materials for them to make a decision. Hopefully we don't need to go into DMCA Takedown Notices and explaining that horrible mess to people who could care less but that is also something that might happen.

But outright preventing mods from being posted here because someone who is too young to understand it all does not help anyone either. It isn't that hard to say that if people do not put up a licence that they will loose certain rights in regards of protecting their work. The other problem is that we do not have a official stance on what rights Squad gives out in regards to mod creation (as in can anyone create and then sell a mod or take a model already created and use it for their mod). This whole thing seems thrown together suddenly and not really thought through.

Please tell me you put in a limit of how many can be in one post. There are people out there that would just LOVE to spam the hell out of it, making all of our IQ's fall by 10 points.

Well in the end it is a licence and would be allowed. They do not dictate what licence you can use as the creator chooses it. If they do dictate what licence you can and can not use then we would have MUCH LARGER problems.

This seems to have caused this new rule in the first place (thus the backlash). It would be simpler to enforce it for those that wish to release the source (those that do plugins) and assume CC BY-NC-SA for everyone else. Also grandfathering of current not updated mods should not be held accountable and removed unless they are actively updating. WTFPL is still a licence (it is used in Debian and is considered a licence. It is a very simple one.)

What is Squad's position on the whole modding scene in a official stance and how do they want licencing to be done? If that is a unknown, this whole effort (while in good faith) will fail. We need something that keeps everyone in a somewhat more sound legal standing and not just go pick a licence out of the internet that you don't fully understand and use it otherwise you wont be able to post your mod here.

Get X-Plane and you will not regret it although there is a huge learning curve X-Plane 9 is like 11 bucks used on amazon and because he only does simple DVD checks, you will be fine and it is a good entry sim that is advanced.

One 50 GB BD-R is 25 bucks. Because the total size compressed is ~55 GB, the price would be around 100 bucks. And because the fact that the adoption rate for actual Blu-Ray drives in personal computers is so small, they would hardly sell any. A single DL-DVD-R is around 3 bucks. Both prices are for Verbatim disks which are extremely high quality disks.Now, buying in bulk will bring the price down but you still got the whole thing of Blu-Ray disks are expensive to make so its simpler to keep it on DVD\'s.

X-Plane has its 'sdk' out with every copy so its not that hard for them to drop 80 bucks for X-Plane 10 (its 8 DL dvd\'s so stop your complaining) and start making a plane in plane maker. The good thing is that they dont have to do alot of edits and such to make the plane work right. After making the plane in plane maker, it will fly just fine as it simulates the whole thing real time when you fly it unlike FSX which used per-determined values for certain things. They will jump over to X-Plane but I think most of them are really holding out to see if the backlash will slap them in the face hard.