Tone is difficult sometimes in the casual nature of forum conversation. I was/am amused that it seemed like the 14 year old gamer I was responding to implied (deliberately or not, this is my interpretation) that video games are new enough that us old guys are just discovering them and getting interested in them. It's the same conversation I had once with my grandfather. I was seventeen, and just bought my second car (but the first car I bought with my own money); a 1967 Ford Mustang. I was quite proud of it, and showing it off to my papa "explaining" all of the engine specs and neat retro things about the car. And, in a condescending way that suggested my old grandpa didn't fully appreciate the horsepower of my new ride. A car that was nine years older than I was. My grandfather just laughed and said, "(Finis), I remember when this car came out brand new. I was in my forties. You've never lived in a world where cars didn't exist. My first Car was a Model A, and my friend's and I turned a 1932 roadster into a hot rod when I got back from The War. -- I think You are the one that doesn't appreciate the horsepower in this baby." Shut me up pretty fast. Point is, the conversation never changes. Every generation thinks the level of technology belongs to them. I'm from the Birth of the Console generation of gamer. We think we own video games, and along comes a kid who has never lived in a world without graphics cards and broadband internet access being excited we're "Discovering" video games. So I lol'd, because it's the same thing all over again. No offense to the kid -- or my grandfather.