hey Harv, after some experimentation ive come up with what (to me) looks like the Magic School Bus. and its just as effective. its a bus type VTOL for up to 5 kerbals + any you can have hanging off the side as well. this beast can orbit and de-orbit by itself up to two times before needing a refuel. this puppy sports a front and bottom regular docking port, and a Jr on the tail end between the engines. edit* replaced the capped docking port on the front with a regular one for ease of launch.* Name: The Munar Shuttle other screens: http://puu.sh/3im8V.jpg (landing using the VTOL boosters.) http://puu.sh/3ipGc.jpg (the Jr docking port on the back, comes with a reversed Pod for easy docking.) http://puu.sh/3ipKT.jpg (closeup of the unmanned pod controller in the back.) http://puu.sh/3ipJ9.jpg (getting up to and down from the top pods is a breeze) http://puu.sh/3ipR4.jpg (underside closeup of the docking port fitted to be balanced when docked. with VTOL can launch from munar surface to skycrane docking port.) Specs: Weight: (w/o counterweight) 39.42 --------(w/ counterweight) 41.87 (i know.. it goes over, but what can i do eh? the underside docking port lends itself as a possible launching position if the counterweight is too much.) Parts: (w/o counterweight) 89 --------(w/ counterweight) 102 electric charge: -------------1255 Fuel:------------------------1800 (plus an additional 90 from the counterweight if you choose to use it, though not recommended) Mono:-----------------------200 (low i know but its designed to use as minor adjustments during docking/landing.) Controls: 1 -> Toggle VTOL engines 2 -> Toggle Horizontal (main) engines 3 -> Toggle Ladders 8 -> eject counterweight .CRAFT file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x7urt4u5dpnenoj/Mun%20Bus%20w_%20counter.craft *note* the .craft has the counterwight built onto it and in the position for fitting the launch stage, if you find a better way to launch it without the counterweight then just pluck the outside docking port off. the VTOL thrusters at full in mun gravity slow the decent by anywhere from 3-7m/s so u want to use the main engines to get around 5000km at 200-300m/s then swap to VTOL. the main engines have a weird tendency to overheat, so keep it one small notch down.. barely noticeable thrust loss. in emergencies the main thrusters can be activated to negate forward momentum if facing the correct way. the VTOL thrusters are balanced in a way to lift the nose up as you takeoff so you can swap to the main engines quite early when it becomes vertical. *side note* i am currently in development of a new intro for you Harv, since you mentioned it on that last video. should be expecting to receive it from me within the week.