Just playing around with ideas. I'm trying to increase the capabilities of my SSTO VTOL lander. It's a 3 kerbal lander. The idea is I can put it in orbit somewhere, brim the tanks, land it (powered or not depending on destination), collect science on the surface (4 goo, 4 materials, 1 temp, 1 pressure, 2 seismic and 2 gravity, plus the crew reports, surface samples and EVA reports), then return the whole lot to orbit, ready to offload the science to a lab, brim the tanks and reuse it. By the time I've added batteries etc it's dV is down to 4.8km/s. This requires parachutes to land on kerbin and can only get to around 80k orbit. I'd like to be able to stick it on top of my heavy launcher, put it in 125k orbit, powered landing on kerbin (mostly aerobraked so should be doable), then return to the mother ship launcher. I don't want to use nuclear engines in kerbin atmosphere, happy to use them for interplanetary transfer, but that's not the problem here. Am I trying for the impossible?, I've struggled with this before and never quite managed it. I'm guessing I need around 5.5k to 6k dV, with a kerbin surface TWR of >=1.3, am I asking too much of the stock engines? Thanks Endolf