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Hypocee

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  1. Ah, true; I missed that, oops. I\'ve given up on expressing that I\'m not obsessed with my casual thought experiment being right; please attach some nonchalance to this -> I\'ll just say it one last time and then shut up pending testing: my thing could still be true. Kerbin\'s atmosphere and gravity field are radically curved compared to any real planet, and may display orbital phenomena that are negligible in the real universe. Part of the joke of that orbital eccentricity comparison is that it\'s actually comparing a (gah) 6247 x 6591-km orbit with (edit) a 1200 x 655-km one in equivalent units.
  2. Hah, excellent. I knew aerobraking circularization had been done, but I didn\'t bother searching for citations since I couldn\'t trust the trickssy flight controllers not to use confounding factors like lift and supplemental circularizing burns. That paper has enough detail to eliminate those, though to be fair it doesn\'t explicitly spell out the reason for the rises in periapsis. Probably right on my little model, though. Hanging out on this forum warps your brain by the way, with its perfectionist nerds practicing shaving meters for docking maneuvers around a tiny tiny planet. I LOL\'d when I met the pros\' '197 x 541 km near-circular orbit'
  3. This is dangerously outside my comfort zone, but from what I understand of mechanics I think you could see a circularizing effect (with rising perikerb) from drag even with no deflection lift, provided that there is a significant radial component to the entry velocity vector. It seems likely that this could be so in the case of a highly elongated 600-to-entry orbit. I\'m thinking of it in terms of mechanical work. At first glance, it seems obvious that any work from a pure drag force must always occur exactly along the orbit, which should only reduce the perikerb. However, entering and exiting a spherical atmosphere may change that. I choose to ignore the variation in atmospheric density because a. it makes my brainmeats quiver and b. I think it may actually favor circularization but is at worst irrelevant in the case of pure drag. Let\'s consider the work done on the capsule during the first half of the 'burn', to perikerb, and the second half back out to space. Consider the transit times in and out to be effectively equal for the sake of argument. This is the shakiest step in my chain of logic; obviously the outbound trip takes longer, but I\'m assuming that this increase is dominated by the decrease of the v2 term in the drag equation. Provided those assumptions, the work done on the capsule is greater during the inbound trip than the outbound because the magnitude of the velocity has been reduced before the outbound half. Thus, there is a net outward radial component to the work done, equivalent to an outward radial burn, raising the exit angle from what it would have been without atmosphere and thus increasing the next perikerb. (edit: ...and causing a retrograde shift in the argument of periapsis, which we\'re not currently well set up to measure but which could theoretically verify whether I\'m full of crap.) This phenomenon would, of course, never raise perikerb beyond the atmosphere and would become less and less significant as the orbit became more circular with shallower entry angles.
  4. http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/forum/index.php?topic=1054.8 implies that you can already position your stack in different places? Right now, presumably you have to remember which walls to go towards.
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