Hey Rocketeers, my best result with an 80km stable Orbit is a Rocket with 300 tonn staging weight.. it reaches kerbin orbit at 80km with a total of 60 tonn .. all tanks are total full in the last stage.. it has docking clamps for the lander.. the fuel it is carrying are in total 1 and 1/4 orange tanks. it has 4 atomic engines at the last stage with 3/4 of an orange tank to burn.. the lander has an 2/4 orange tank with 4 * 120kn attach engines 320 isp.. no prob for killing orbit velo.. low orbits will make the lander easy kill orbit, land and get back to the efficient atomic engine tank.. this rocket is able to bring 3 kerbals from kerbin to gilly, ike, dres and everything that is lower then 0.2 g and back, as soon its higher then 0.2 g only landing is possible.. for the way back i never did it. tried to land on duna and back but failed in an sun orbit.. always using planets, muns or even rocks as a catapult. but for all the rest this ship is very versitile. i also have the smaller version that only brings 1 man everywhere. but its 307 tonn staging.. 65 tonn orbit with full fuel.. so its 21.1 % payload fraction. cheers and happy optimising