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Tw1

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Tw1

Tw1

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I'm having a bit of trouble with an IVA I've put together, using a model by Ven. There are two problems.

First, light seems to be spilling out from the inside:

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Second, I can't make props appear when I load it in game.

When I press the save to config button, I get this error:

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I managed to get it to write a config by loading spawning in another IVA, stripping out its props, overwriting that config, but copying those details into the config for this IVA doesn't seem to have worked.

Here's what that version of the config looks like:

INTERNAL
{
  name = LabSpaceUPGRADE

  MODULE
  {
    name = InternalSeat
    seatTransformName = Seat1
    allowCrewHelmet = false
  }
  MODULE
  {
    name = InternalSeat
    allowCrewHelmet = false
    seatTransformName = Seat2

}
MODULE
{
		name = InternalCameraSwitch
		colliderTransformName = Window1
	cameraTransformName = Camera1
}
MODULE
{
		name = InternalCameraSwitch
		colliderTransformName = Window2
	cameraTransformName = Camera2
}
MODULE
{
		name = InternalCameraSwitch
		colliderTransformName = Window3
	cameraTransformName = Camera3
}
MODULE
{
		name = InternalCameraSwitch
		colliderTransformName = Window4
	cameraTransformName = Camera4
}
MODULE
{
		name = InternalCameraSwitch
		colliderTransformName = Window5
	cameraTransformName = Camera5
}
MODULE
{
		name = InternalCameraSwitch
		colliderTransformName = Window6
	cameraTransformName = Camera6

}
PROP
{
		name = AltimeterThreeHands
		position = -0.2271811,-1.696817,0.6394622
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AltimeterThreeHands
		position = -0.6702285,-2.689338,0.795574
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AltimeterThreeHands
		position = -0.6702285,-3.349463,0.795574
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AltimeterThreeHands
		position = -0.8240914,-1.693834,0.1697591
		rotation = 0.8640891,0.01712112,0.5027524,-0.01723384
		scale = 1,0.9999967,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AltimeterThreeHands
		position = 0.480557,-3.074421,0.8149185
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 1,0.9999998,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AltimeterThreeHands
		position = -1.034684,-3.612594,0.1755904
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AltimeterThreeHands
		position = -0.6702285,-4.480187,0.7955739
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AltimeterThreeHands
		position = -0.6702285,-2.294908,0.795574
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AltimeterThreeHands
		position = -0.8280612,-4.673583,0.1101094
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AltimeterThreeHands
		position = 0.4805571,-4.033642,0.8149185
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 1,0.9999998,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AltimeterThreeHands
		position = 0.5921628,-1.696616,0.4148904
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AtmosphereDepth
		position = -0.6702285,-2.055612,0.795574
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AtmosphereDepth
		position = -0.5616491,-1.686852,0.7290399
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AtmosphereDepth
		position = 0.82659,-2.705795,0.2121378
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 1,0.9999998,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AtmosphereDepth
		position = 0.82659,-2.782266,0.2121378
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 1,0.9999998,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AxisIndicatorPitch
		position = -0.6782929,-4.6811,0.382794
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AxisIndicatorPitch
		position = 0.82659,-2.745227,0.2121378
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 1,0.9999998,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AxisIndicatorPitch
		position = 0.7689271,-4.67502,0.006560883
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AxisIndicatorPitch
		position = 0.82659,-2.820399,0.2121378
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 1,0.9999998,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AxisIndicatorRoll
		position = -0.7153578,-4.6811,0.382794
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AxisIndicatorRoll
		position = -0.4914714,-1.686852,0.7290399
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AxisIndicatorRoll
		position = -0.5250697,-1.686852,0.7290399
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AxisIndicatorRoll
		position = 0.724386,-4.67502,0.006560886
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AxisIndicatorRoll
		position = 0.82659,-2.670923,0.2121378
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 1,0.9999998,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AxisIndicatorYaw
		position = -0.7573106,-4.6811,0.382794
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = AxisIndicatorYaw
		position = 0.6857837,-4.67502,0.00656089
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = -0.8713002,-1.686852,-0.2171512
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = 0.6712196,-2.3755,0.4827891
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 0.9999771,1.000027,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = 0.5967959,-4.680784,0.4195336
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = 0.7608883,-3.991416,0.3265886
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 1,0.9999998,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = 0.4679545,-1.696616,0.6394482
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = 0.5838208,-3.991416,0.6350357
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 1,0.9999998,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = -0.8200789,-2.394135,0.54066
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = 0.5967959,-4.680784,0.3861759
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = -0.9273704,-1.686852,-0.2171512
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = -0.876076,-2.394135,0.4454018
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = 0.5965891,-2.3755,0.6127936
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 0.9999579,1.00005,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = 0.5967959,-4.680784,0.3158541
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = 0.743719,-1.696616,0.02078655
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = -0.7271596,-2.394135,0.6987273
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = 0.8144674,-1.696616,0.02078655
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = 0.4679545,-1.696616,0.5724642
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = 0.5967959,-4.680784,0.3509242
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = -0.7666293,-2.394135,0.6315846
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = ButtonSquare
		position = -0.03444461,-4.680784,0.707312
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.7323838,-4.67502,-0.1599044
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = -0.1340629,-4.680784,0.707312
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = -0.7727221,-1.686852,-0.3343582
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.69062,-4.67502,-0.1599044
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = -1.034684,-3.541626,0.1755904
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = -1.034684,-3.693718,0.1755904
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = -0.8713002,-1.686852,-0.3343582
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = -0.7581797,-4.6811,0.2919894
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = -0.8718029,-3.989286,0.4526711
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.5898107,-1.696616,0.5134411
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = -0.6782929,-4.6811,0.2926207
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.7133564,-4.67502,-0.1938374
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.7347974,-2.3755,0.3720383
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 0.9999876,1.000014,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = -0.2298731,-1.686852,0.7256065
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.7506554,-4.67502,-0.1272765
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.4679545,-1.696616,0.4148904
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.5338318,-1.696616,0.514021
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = -0.9236115,-3.989286,0.3645382
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.5420921,-2.3755,0.7077259
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 0.9999224,1.000092,0.9999858
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.7506554,-4.67502,-0.1938374
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.5510506,-3.991277,0.6921206
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 1,0.9999998,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = -0.8198043,-1.686852,-0.3343582
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.7115019,-4.67502,-0.1272765
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = -0.7152601,-4.6811,0.292593
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.4679545,-1.696616,0.4608405
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.3753884,-4.680784,0.6368873
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.7689271,-4.67502,-0.1599044
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = circularButton
		position = 0.4679545,-1.696616,0.514021
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = Compass
		position = 0.7437191,-1.696616,0.1945495
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = Compass
		position = 0.8265901,-3.588603,0.2121378
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 1,0.9999998,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = Compass
		position = 0.8265901,-3.675125,0.2121378
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 1,0.9999998,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = Compass
		position = 0.6714628,-1.696616,0.1945495
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = directionalKnob
		position = 0.01241149,-1.686852,0.7290398
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = directionalKnob
		position = -0.08031613,-1.686852,0.7256065
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = directionalKnob
		position = -0.3104009,-4.680784,0.707312
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = directionalKnob
		position = -0.2137575,-4.680784,0.707312
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = directionalKnob
		position = -0.496058,-4.680784,0.707312
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = directionalKnob2
		position = -0.8327987,-4.673583,-0.2921295
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = directionalKnob2
		position = -1.034684,-3.612594,0.1755904
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = directionalKnob2
		position = -0.4070443,-4.680784,0.707312
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = IndicatorPanel
		position = -1.03004,-2.673456,0.1728607
		rotation = 0.6137531,0.3511512,0.3511512,-0.6137531
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = IndicatorPanel
		position = 0.2744785,-1.696616,0.6931016
		rotation = 1,-4.371139E-08,-4.371139E-08,1.910685E-15
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = IndicatorPanel
		position = -0.8280612,-4.673583,0.2360087
		rotation = 0,1,0,-4.371139E-08
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = IndicatorPanel
		position = 0.4721305,-4.675016,0.5566596
		rotation = 2.986996E-08,0.9680992,1.309313E-15,0.2505674
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = IndicatorPanel
		position = -1.070223,-1.877952,0.1009664
		rotation = -0.6822904,-0.6822904,0.1856875,0.1856876
		scale = 1,1,1
	}
	PROP
	{
		name = IndicatorPanel
		position = 0.8388219,-1.869088,0.1908301
		rotation = -0.1821689,-0.1821689,0.6832383,0.6832383
		scale = 1,0.9999998,1
	}
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Here's what my hierarchy and stuff looks like:

jMyGZxK.png

p0lsRyw.png

What would be going wrong?

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While I appreciate the effort of making it available, you might consider waiting until after 1.0. There are new IVA scenes for 1.0, and one of them is for the science lab.

Which, (as I've posted about in that thread), may look good, but is a bit of a rubbish design for a science lab. I see no space to actually do science in, which this model does offer, while still being very stocklike.

The basics are working, so I'll probably release it at some point anyway, but it would be nice to know how to patch up these flaws in the set up.

I notice in IVA threads, people talking about proptools. I don't seem to have that script.

I also wonder if the lights should be in a different layer or someone. There doesn't seem to be a comprehensive written guide out there. (I prefer written to video, you can easily find the section with relevant info without sitting there for ages.)

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At first you need to choose Culling mask parameter and then select Nothing. After that select Kerbals and Internal Space layers. That's all.

http://i.imgur.com/HHJR593.jpg

You beat me to it :) I was working on IVAs all weekend long.

Was gonna say, make sure everything is assigned to either the Kerbals or Internal Space layer.

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Oh, I just mean you might wait then to see if you can figure out how that IVA is made and get Ven's version to work from what you learn, and also avoid having your work being for nothing if for some reason they change something to the lab.

I really like Ven's Version too, feel much more roomy and fitting for a spacecraft (what do you mean we are sitting side way? this is space! We sit anywhere!).

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the errors are because you have the import model set to use MechAnim animation system. Set the import to "Legacy" animation and use "Animation" component instead of "Animator" component. Unity 4.x defaults to "Generic" for imports. Both "Generic" and "Humanoid" are only used with MechAnim system. In fact you should do that for all KSP parts. PartTools will not export "Animator" component. Remove "Animation" and/or "Animator" components from the IVA if you don't have any animations inside.

check my sig for detailed IVA tutorial videos.

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At first you need to choose Culling mask parameter and then select Nothing. After that select Kerbals and Internal Space layers. That's all.

Was gonna say, make sure everything is assigned to either the Kerbals or Internal Space layer.

Ok, so Culling mask determines what the light will affect? Cool.

the errors are because you have the import model set to use MechAnim animation system. Set the import to "Legacy" animation and use "Animation" component instead of "Animator" component. Unity 4.x defaults to "Generic" for imports. Both "Generic" and "Humanoid" are only used with MechAnim system. In fact you should do that for all KSP parts. PartTools will not export "Animator" component. Remove "Animation" and/or "Animator" components from the IVA if you don't have any animations inside.

check my sig for detailed IVA tutorial videos.

I've removed the unnecessary Animator component, but I'm not sure how to change the import model thing. Is there a setting in one of the dropdown menus or tabs that must be change?

Just checking, is this what's probably preventing the props CFG from writing, or would that be something else?

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the errors are new and not related to Animator component. Looks like the Internal config file you are attempting to save to doesn't exist, or the internal name doesn't match. Also, you only need either PartTools script, or Internal Space script to export. never both.

this video explains IVA setup in detail

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the errors are new and not related to Animator component. Looks like the Internal config file you are attempting to save to doesn't exist, or the internal name doesn't match. Also, you only need either PartTools script, or Internal Space script to export. never both.

this video explains IVA setup in detail

Watched the video.

It still not worky :(

uiznHhK.png

I removed the part tools script, double checked the names and things, but the error still won't go away.

I may just have to put it up without props, which would be a pity, they help to make it feel cluttered and sciencey.

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