Jonboy Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 You lot do realise that the name of our sun is Sol right?Eh, only in sci-fi (or Latin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager275 Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 I'm going to guess that this binary thing was Voyager275 confusing Sirius being a binary star with the Nemesis hypothesis, etc?No. This is something different. Nemesis was a red dwarf that passed through Oort Cloud but was proven false. Just look up Sirius Sun binary and look at the evidence through that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacha Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 No. This is something different. Nemesis was a red dwarf that passed through Oort Cloud but was proven false. Just look up Sirius Sun binary and look at the evidence through thatIt does not work that way. You seem to believe this is true, yet have not produced any real evidence or arguments. If you want to discuss novel ideas, this is the place, but you will need to provide the actual things to discuss. Making a statement and pointing elsewhere for all the rest is not going to work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 As people have already pointed out, the relative velocity of the Sun and Sirius is far higher than what the escape velocity of this proposed binary system would be, given observed masses and distances. Your proposal requires there to be huge discrepancies between the real and observed relative velocities, masses, or distances between Sirius and the Sun; provide some evidence or at least a possible mechanism for this, or stop wasting our time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager275 Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 Sirius would have the required gravity to hold our sun, Sirius has had things built that still match it thousands of years after, Sirius is on the same plane angle as the sun, Sirius is moving towards us, the calendars based on Sirius can still be used, and for the escape velocity I don't know it might be a gravity sling that pulls the sun back into an elliptical orbit, also look at asteroids they can be pulled into an elliptical orbit around a planet, if these things don't convince you then I'm sorry for wasting your time but I'm trying to provide evidence. If you don't believe that's fine with me since we have our right to freedom of opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacha Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) If you don't believe that's fine with me since we have our right to freedom of opinionThere is very little in your post that cannot be easily explained or refuted, while the counter argument poses a real problem for the theory. You can draw the logical conclusion, or you could state that everyone has a right to an opinion. The latter is not false, though people often confuse the right to have an opinion for that opinion being true, relevant or useful. Contrary to popular belief, opinions have no intrinsic value whatsoever.The current understanding of Sirius works out with all the observations, while this theory has at least one big problem. Edited May 17, 2015 by Camacha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Sirius would have the required gravity to hold our sun, Sirius has had things built that still match it thousands of years after, Sirius is on the same plane angle as the sun, Sirius is moving towards us, the calendars based on Sirius can still be used, and for the escape velocity I don't know it might be a gravity sling that pulls the sun back into an elliptical orbit, also look at asteroids they can be pulled into an elliptical orbit around a planet, if these things don't convince you then I'm sorry for wasting your time but I'm trying to provide evidence. If you don't believe that's fine with me since we have our right to freedom of opinionNo, it's simple physics. If two objects move relative to each other at velocity greater than escape velocity, they are NOT orbiting each other. They cannot.And it's been explained a million times why Sirius is in the same part of the sky still. It only moves about half a degree per thousand years. And everything you've described goes back to no more than 5,000 years. There is barely over 2° difference between where Sirius was then, and where it is now. And guess what? So are all the other stars.What HAS changed, and what DOES NOT match Sirius calendars are the seasons. Earth axis precesses, and seasonality of Sirius follows the same changes as seasonality of the Zodiac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesreidau Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Look Sirius has been idolized, is on the same plane angle of the Sun, and many ancient people built stuff to match Sirius thousands of years after they were gone. Explain how a pyramid shaft matches with Sirius 3,000 years after if it is not in some predictable relationship with the SunHumans constructing objects that align with Sirius does not prove Sirius is in a binary relationship with the Sun. Humans have constructed just as many objects in a relationship with Polaris, and we're not in a binary relationship there.You are free to have any opinion you like, but if you wish to make a claim, yours is the burden of proof. I didn't make that rule, the Greeks made that rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager275 Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 What about a sling around? Such as an asteroid slinging by earth and getting pulled into orbit, that is if it isn't orbiting already. If it was orbiting already the sun could be leaving its closest point while Sirius is approaching it. That is all I have left, I even drew the two systems to help. Prove me wrong if I am and I will just give this theory up and stop wasting your time.- - - Updated - - -Don't bother I've already been proven wrong. Thank you all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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