Clipping with structural panels

[lugge]

Ok, I'm realy frustrated at the moment...

I try to build a rover, with 2*2 structural panels as a base.

However, I cannot arrange to attach a fuel tank or a Science Jr. on top or below it.

It always will clip into the panel, with have the size of the tank above and half the size below the panel.

Is there some kind of trick to do this?

Strange thing is, the Mk1 lander capsule works just finde.

Just use mous to move it around until it snaps in...

Whats the differnce here?

And,a more offtopic question:

What I have read from this forum so far, for some of you clipping is like cheating.

Is this clip I have here a kind of abuse? Or is this "working as intended"?

Regards,

lugge

Edited August 5, 2015 by lugge

[Grumman]

You probably just need to rotate the fuel tank. Only one side of the fuel tank is used as a radial attachment point, so you just need to press Q, W, E, A, S or D until that side is facing the right direction.

[Tex_NL]

Clipping is only cheating when YOU think it is cheating. Don't let others tell you how to play your game.

Personally I don't have a problem with minor clipping. I will not put a fuel tank inside another tank just to increase the fuel load. But I will put batteries, reaction wheels etc. inside empty structural pieces.

If a part doesn't want to attach exactly how you want it try the translation and rotation tools in the upper left corner.

[Claw]

The gizmo tools are your friend. They are often easier to use to manipulate a part than trying to attach it perfectly with the mouse. Also, the sci jr has a slighly different attachment than fuel tanks, if I recall off hand.

As for clipping, do what you feel. I would share my personal thoughts on how much clipping, but that really should color your thoughts on how you play. It used to be a bigger sticking point on the forums until after the gizmos were added to the game, because you had to use the dreaded F12 menu previously.

Cheers,

-Claw

[lugge]

Hello and thanks, folks.

I finally achieved to get a fuel tank attached on the panel. No rotating necessary.

Then, I quickly made a subassembly for this, because I need this part more often :-)

Well, until now I just built these standard rockets, you know.

Take an engine, fuel, separator, engine fuel, separator...

But now I'm working on rovers.

I also have a nice skycrane, using a lot of panels and other structural parts.

Now I have to use the gizmo tools and carefully try to fit the attaching point I want to attach...

At this stage of craft design, I really came to the conclusion, KSP's craft editor sucks. Balls.

But thats another story :-)

Greetings, lugge

[Sharpy]

Hold Alt (or whatever's the Mod key for you) when attaching it.

The panel has a node (or two on both sides?) in the middle. The tank has nodes at the centers of the two circular sides. But since both are "surface attachable" the tank defaults to surface attach by half of its length, to the surface of the panel. By holding Alt you enforce node attachment, disallowing surface attachment, and as result the tank would only attach by the node, to the panel's node.