Increasing part friction by editing config file only (no model or dll)?

[allmhuran]

Say I wanted to make a high friction part... something that "sticks" to the ground. Is there any way to take the module information from landing gear or wheels (or anything else) to create this kind of high friction part *without* having to include a model or plugin dll?

I've had a look at the config for the various stock gear and I'm not sure if it's possible, because:

	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleLandingGearFixed
		BrakeTorque = 20
		BrakeSpeed = 3
		wheelName = wheel  // <--- this line must refer to a special property in the model, so if the model has no such property (ie, like a welded part) then I expect things won't work.
		hasSteering = true
	}

I've tried figuring this out empirically in the game but it's difficult to check.

Edited August 19, 2015 by allmhuran

[Mecripp]

Landing gear don't stick you can slide down a hill but would say no not with out a plugin and there are a couple to look at B.Dynamics http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/82341 had a CritterCrawler that had sticky feet and there's KAS http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/92514-0-24-2-Kerbal-Attachment-System-%28KAS%29-0-4-8-Fixed-for-0-24-2-x86-x64-%29 had a ground Pylon

	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleKISItem
		volumeOverride = 150
		stackable = true
		allowStaticAttach = 1
		staticAttachBreakForce = 10
	}

you can add that to parts and attach to ground and then there was Foundations just a plugin it's old but still worked in .90 or 1.0 was last, I used it http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/56262-Plugin-0-22-WIP-Foundations-UPDATE-ALPHA-RELEASE-0-2

EDIT- With Foundations you just added

     MODULE
    {
    name = Foundation
    breakForce = 200
    breakTorque = 200
    }

to a part and it give you a attach in the part menu and you was stuck there to you de-attached.

Edited August 19, 2015 by Mecripp2

[allmhuran]

Roger. I need a stock solution so I guess I'll just stick some stock wheels on and hide them away. I was hoping to set my own welded part as "sticky" to keep the part count down.

[Mecripp]

Thinking about it stock you could play around with

ModuleGrappleNode

PART
{
	name = GrapplingDevice
	module = Part
	author = Squad
	mesh = model.mu
	scale = 1
	node_stack_top = 0.0, -0.1126614, 0.00, 0.0, -1.0, 0.0, 1
	node_attach = 0.0, 0.0, 0.00, 0.0, -1.0, 0.0, 1
	TechRequired = actuators
	entryCost = 5200
	cost = 450
	category = Utility
	subcategory = 0
	title = Advanced Grabbing Unit
	manufacturer = Kerbal Motion LLC
	description = Kerbal Motion engineers have long struggled with the problem of how to extract dropped tools from complicated machinery. After observing an intern cleaning out his shoes by turning them upside and shaking them inside the lab, our team was hit with a stroke of inspiration! Why not turn the rocket parts upside down and shake them? The grabbing arm perfectly filled this niche, and is quite capable of lifting heavy machinery. It has since found other uses, besides delicate tool extraction operations. AKA "The Klaw!"
	attachRules = 1,1,0,0,0
	mass = 0.075
	dragModelType = default
	maximum_drag = 0.3
	minimum_drag = 0.2
	angularDrag = 1
	crashTolerance = 7
	maxTemp = 2000 // = 3600
	fuelCrossFeed = False
	crashTolerance = 50
	breakingForce = 50
	breakingTorque = 50
	bulkheadProfiles = size1, srf
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleGrappleNode
		nodeTransformName = ArticulatedCap
		deployAnimationController = 1
		nodeType = size1
		captureRange = 0.05
		captureMinFwdDot = 0.866
		captureMaxRvel = 1
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleAnimateGeneric
		animationName = Deploy
		startEventGUIName = Arm
		endEventGUIName = Disarm
		actionGUIName = Toggle Arming
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = FXModuleLookAtConstraint
		CONSTRAINLOOKFX
		{
			rotatorsName = Piston1
			targetName = Sleeve1
		}
		CONSTRAINLOOKFX
		{
			rotatorsName = Sleeve1
			targetName = Mounting1
		}
		CONSTRAINLOOKFX
		{
			rotatorsName = Piston2
			targetName = Sleeve2
		}
		CONSTRAINLOOKFX
		{
			rotatorsName = Sleeve2
			targetName = Mounting2
		}
		CONSTRAINLOOKFX
		{
			rotatorsName = Piston3
			targetName = Sleeve3
		}
		CONSTRAINLOOKFX
		{
			rotatorsName = Sleeve3
			targetName = Mounting3
		}
		CONSTRAINLOOKFX
		{
			rotatorsName = Piston4
			targetName = Sleeve4
		}
		CONSTRAINLOOKFX
		{
			rotatorsName = Sleeve4
			targetName = Mounting4
		}
		CONSTRAINLOOKFX
		{
			rotatorsName = BaseSleeve1
			targetName = MainSleeveLookTarget
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = FlagDecal
		textureQuadName = flagTransform
	}
}

you wanting to use it on landing legs ?

[allmhuran]

On the feet of a robot to allow it to stay stuck to the ground when walking instead of floating up in a highly unrealistic manner. Interesting idea with the grapple node.

[Randazzo]

Thinking about it stock you could play around with

ModuleGrappleNode

This is inviting world-ending disasters involving Krakens.

Plus, I'm fairly sure that only sticks to "parts" (asteroids are parts).

[Mecripp]

This is inviting world-ending disasters involving Krakens.

Plus, I'm fairly sure that only sticks to "parts" (asteroids are parts).

Think your wrong there pretty sure, I have stuck them to the Mun lol

EDIT- I will run some test and see

[allmhuran]

I do remember a danny vid where he destroyed the universe by double-grappling a kerbal, so there's definitely something lurking in those things.

- - - Updated - - -

Best solution I can think of at the moment is to add an ion engine to the foot, hidden inside it, and edited to be more powerful and ludicrously efficient. Then when a foot is grounded turn on the engine in that foot to press it into the ground. But that does require some degree of KOS-fu.

[Randazzo]

Think your wrong there pretty sure, I have stuck them to the Mun lol

EDIT- I will run some test and see

I tried it on Kinetic Penetrators before switching over to KAS modules because the grapple module would never stick to the ground.

That may have had something to do with the high speed impacts though. heh

Edited August 19, 2015 by Randazzo

[Mecripp]

I tried it on Kinetic Penetrators before switching over to KAS modules because the grapple module would never stick to the ground.

That may have had something to do with the high speed impacts though. heh

Think they changed it, I'm sure, I stuck them to even kerban and now there not sticking to anything