mod ideas

[Ackoli]

carbon-dioxide fuelled engines. they magicaly shoot out lazors to push the carbon diwoxide       they shoot out lasers to propel the carbon dioxide.

[Speeding Mullet]

I've heard of a carbon negative rocket engine in development, powered by a mixture of carbon dioxide and aluminum, and also just stumbled across this which "could potentially use waste heat to take advantage of the Leidenfrost effect by exploiting the low boiling point of frozen carbon dioxide to spin a turbine to create electricity" but not an engine that uses a laser to propel carbon dioxide.

Is it something you can point me towards that is theoretically possible or in development?  I can't help create a mod as I'm not a modder, but I'm interested in reading stuff like this.

If it doesn't exist or isn't a realistically practical or possible method of propulsion, then you may find that you need to revise your request to garner interest.  I could be wrong though - there was a "banana for scale" mod from memory.

 

SM

[Souper]

I'm on it.

[Hysterrics]

On 1/2/2016 at 4:21 AM, Ackoli said:

carbon-dioxide fuelled engines. they magicaly shoot out lazors to push the carbon diwoxide       they shoot out lasers to propel the carbon dioxide.

What? Is this even a real life possibility?

KSP might be a silly game, but everything still has a real life counterpart. The day KSP adds ridiculous "haahaha11! su kerbul" additions is the day I stop updating.

[Ackoli]

9 hours ago, Sequinox said:

What? Is this even a real life possibility?

KSP might be a silly game, but everything still has a real life counterpart. The day KSP adds ridiculous "haahaha11! su kerbul" additions is the day I stop updating.

it is a real-life possibility, carbon dioxide at high pressures will generate reasonable amounts of thrust, but only in a vacuum. lasers would help as well. I had the idea when thinking of a use for waste carbon dioxide in craft, so I thought of this.

On ‎3‎/‎01‎/‎2016 at 11:03 PM, Souper said:

I'm on it.

Thanks! Ill download the mod when it is realeased

[Ackoli]

On ‎2‎/‎01‎/‎2016 at 10:18 PM, Speeding Mullet said:

I've heard of a carbon negative rocket engine in development, powered by a mixture of carbon dioxide and aluminum, and also just stumbled across this which "could potentially use waste heat to take advantage of the Leidenfrost effect by exploiting the low boiling point of frozen carbon dioxide to spin a turbine to create electricity" but not an engine that uses a laser to propel carbon dioxide.

Is it something you can point me towards that is theoretically possible or in development?  I can't help create a mod as I'm not a modder, but I'm interested in reading stuff like this.

If it doesn't exist or isn't a realistically practical or possible method of propulsion, then you may find that you need to revise your request to garner interest.  I could be wrong though - there was a "banana for scale" mod from memory.

 

SM

I was thinking of long tubes which shoot out liquid CO2, the vacuum outside would suck out the carbon-dioxide, and lasers would help propel the CO2. I am very scientific, and Most of my ideas apply to the laws of physics.

[Speeding Mullet]

16 minutes ago, Ackoli said:

I am very scientific, and Most of my ideas apply to the laws of physics.

That's why if I was asking a] whether it  was possible, and b] whether any organisation or scientific study that you know of had had a serious look into it so I can read about it further.  

If you are very scientific but no-one has looked into it, are you able to flesh out how it works a little more?  All I've got is shoot, suck, and propel at the moment.

SM

[Hysterrics]

11 hours ago, Ackoli said:

it is a real-life possibility, carbon dioxide at high pressures will generate reasonable amounts of thrust, but only in a vacuum. lasers would help as well. I had the idea when thinking of a use for waste carbon dioxide in craft, so I thoug

Alright, I was just clarifying. I never heard of it and it seemed like a silly idea. Regardless, it's fairly interesting.

[Ackoli]

17 hours ago, Speeding Mullet said:

That's why if I was asking a] whether it  was possible, and b] whether any organisation or scientific study that you know of had had a serious look into it so I can read about it further.  

If you are very scientific but no-one has looked into it, are you able to flesh out how it works a little more?  All I've got is shoot, suck, and propel at the moment.

SM

I am not sure any organization is working on it. I thought of this idea a couple months ago, and all that time I have been researching on how to improve it.  and, this is an explanation of how it works:

the carbon dioxide is pumped into a compressor, where it is compressed into liquid form. the liquid CO2 is pumped into tanks, where it will be stored for later. if the engine is activated, the stored CO2 will be shot out of the tank, and into a long tube. inside the tube the vacuum outside will suck the carbon dioxide out, and while the CO2 is being sucked out, high-power lasers shoot at the CO2, propelling it more. optionally you could put in a small amount of conventional rocket fuel, which would explode (oxidizer needed for that), and generate thrust as well as accelerating the CO2 even more.

[Speeding Mullet]

1 minute ago, Ackoli said:

carbon dioxide is pumped into a compressor, where it is compressed into liquid form

Ah so the Carbon dioxide is pulled out of the atmosphere of a planet (e.g. Mars) and compressed directly to liquid form for storage and later release for propulsion?

Given Carbon dioxide has higher density as a solid (97.4 lb/cu. ft.) vs liquid (68.74 lb/cu. ft) and on Mars the two conditions you find Carbon Dioxide in are gas and solid form then wouldn't you be better going for solid compressed dry ice pellets/bricks as fuel and using the high powered lasers to sublimate the Carbon Dioxide, providing thrust?  "High Power" lasers also sound way more complex in this instance than just heating the dry ice with a simple element?

It strikes me that to obtain liquid Carbon dioxide storage in space would require pressure and temperature heated vessels, where as solid would require only a vessel.  Also it would be a much easier process removing Carbon Dioxide to dry ice as it would not require heating and pressurized storage, so the machinery and storage would be lighter and less complex / dangerous, which is important in space.

Also on release of the liquid Co2 into a long tube in a vacuum it would just turn into dry ice blocking the tube wouldn't it?  The liquid Co2 in the tank would also reach a point where it was not pressurized or at the correct temperature and would also turn straight into dry ice.

As I said I'm not a scientist and I have also assumed a couple of things here (for example you are talking about producing fuelon Mars and not say Venus).  This is also just based off my amateur views and I am not a qualified or learned scientist so I'm very, very happy to be corrected here (that's good science-ing  ) but I just cannot see how the idea would work without being overly complex and not very efficient.

 

SM

 

 

 

[Ackoli]

7 hours ago, Speeding Mullet said:

Ah so the Carbon dioxide is pulled out of the atmosphere of a planet (e.g. Mars) and compressed directly to liquid form for storage and later release for propulsion?

Given Carbon dioxide has higher density as a solid (97.4 lb/cu. ft.) vs liquid (68.74 lb/cu. ft) and on Mars the two conditions you find Carbon Dioxide in are gas and solid form then wouldn't you be better going for solid compressed dry ice pellets/bricks as fuel and using the high powered lasers to sublimate the Carbon Dioxide, providing thrust?  "High Power" lasers also sound way more complex in this instance than just heating the dry ice with a simple element?

It strikes me that to obtain liquid Carbon dioxide storage in space would require pressure and temperature heated vessels, where as solid would require only a vessel.  Also it would be a much easier process removing Carbon Dioxide to dry ice as it would not require heating and pressurized storage, so the machinery and storage would be lighter and less complex / dangerous, which is important in space.

Also on release of the liquid Co2 into a long tube in a vacuum it would just turn into dry ice blocking the tube wouldn't it?  The liquid Co2 in the tank would also reach a point where it was not pressurized or at the correct temperature and would also turn straight into dry ice.

As I said I'm not a scientist and I have also assumed a couple of things here (for example you are talking about producing fuelon Mars and not say Venus).  This is also just based off my amateur views and I am not a qualified or learned scientist so I'm very, very happy to be corrected here (that's good science-ing  ) but I just cannot see how the idea would work without being overly complex and not very efficient.

 

SM

 

 

 

dry ice then, and I designed this for space, I never thought of using it for mars. dry ice would not clog up the tube since it would be instantly vaporised by the lasers. I chose lasers because they may use lots of electricity, but would heat up the dry-ice very quickly, and vaporise it. and this is definitely not to be used on Venus, the gravity is way too high.  and I would still need a bit of pressurization since otherwise the CO2 would not be sucked out. I will use dry ice pellets, not bricks, since they should be easier to pump. and, if there will be a mod there should DEFINATELY be a carbon dioxide extractor and Dry ice maker.