Shader alpha + specular

[Nookos]

I was very happy to see the new shader Bumped Specular ( Transparent) in part tools 1.1. But it seems like, alongisde with Specular ( Transparent) it doesn't work. Or I did something wrong while installing part tools? Wrong Unity version?

I m using Unity 5.3.4f1 with part tools 1.1.

As you can see below the specular color isn't there and no matter what I do with the shininess slider nothing happens.

[nli2work]

Use the Unity4 shaders from PartTools Legacy instead of from SquadCore (delete the shaders folder from SquadCore). But I'm not sure which set is loaded in KSP 1.1.

[Nookos]

13 hours ago, nli2work said:

Use the Unity4 shaders from PartTools Legacy instead of from SquadCore (delete the shaders folder from SquadCore). But I'm not sure which set is loaded in KSP 1.1.

I think that is what I did. I installed part tools by drag and dropping PartToolsLegacy/PartTools in my assets in Unity. Now following your comment I installed it using the asset bundles. Result is I get a lot more stuff in my assets but the shaders in SquadCore are the same. Still no specular color.

I also couldn't find a squad part that appears to use bump + alpha + specular.. It seemed too good to be true to have that ability..

Edited March 31, 2016 by Nookos

[nli2work]

Looks like the set from squadcore will override the legacy set if you install both.

I tested both sets in 5.3.4 and it seems like specular in the legacy set is working while the set from squadcore doesn't.

[Porkjet]

I'll take a look at this

[Nookos]

23 hours ago, nli2work said:

Looks like the set from squadcore will override the legacy set if you install both.

I tested both sets in 5.3.4 and it seems like specular in the legacy set is working while the set from squadcore doesn't.

I don't understand yet how you got it to work. I spent the evening yesterday installing and uninstalling both in vain. But thanks for letting me know it can work eventually..

1 hour ago, Porkjet said:

I'll take a look at this

Thanks. Much appreciated.

[nli2work]

I'll check it again in 5.2.4

I figure something little more systematic would be good. Screencaps from 3 separate Unity projects each with different set of shaders installed. test package with scene file and textures https://www.dropbox.com/s/0cherlsfcgvkt08/specTest.unitypackage?dl=0 

Here's test of BumpSpec in Unity 4.2.2f1; Looks in order for the most part. 1.1 PartTools Legacy shader considerably darker. 

 

from Unity 5.2.4f1; one strange thing is Burn Color seems to be working in the role of Main Color. RGB  tints _MainTex RGB; (A) Multiplies Spec (A). not sure if that's intentional.

 

@Porkjet Since Squadcore shaders appear to be the set in squadcore.ksp assetbundle loaded in KSP, it is it safe to assume KSP 1.1 only supports those shaders?

Edited April 1, 2016 by nli2work

[Nookos]

Ok now I tried in 4.2.2, 5.2.4 and 5.3.4.

Each time trying 3 different ways: only assetbundles; only legacy; assetbundles - deleting shaders - installing legacy.

And same result every time. Not possible to get alpha + specular

@nli2work I m able to reproduce your test because Bumped Specular is not the problem for me. It's only the combination Alpha + Specular that is the problem: SpecularTransparent and SpecularBumpTransparent.

[nli2work]

They seem to work in 5.2.4; 

[Nookos]

15 minutes ago, nli2work said:

They seem to work in 5.2.4; 

I m not sure what you mean by working then. Just like me you don't have a specular color and so you don't have specular at all. The shininess slider alone doesn't do anything. In short you have no specular like me:

 

Edited April 2, 2016 by Nookos

[nli2work]

17 minutes ago, Nookos said:

I m not sure what you mean by working then. Just like me you don't have a specular color and so you don't have specular at all. The shininess slider alone doesn't do anything. In short you have no specular like me.

I see what you mean. I assumed they are spec only shaders. Opacity controls overall visibility of the object while (A) controls Spec Intensity. Fresnel slider controls Spec Gloss. That doesn't appear to be correct, since KSP/Alpha/Translucent Specular works as one would expect

Overall the shaders in 1.1 seem a little more unusual than before. Maybe Squad unintentionally included some internal shaders.

Edited April 2, 2016 by nli2work