Aethon Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Orion rolled out and prepared for integration. On schedule for Dec. 4 launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethon Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 Orion integrated with it's rocket.Time- lapse of the roll out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygun Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I tend to forget how big Orion is until you see people standing near it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrazine_Soup Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Work in progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethon Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 Nice Dani!Coming soon: Orion test flight.A look back, and ahead. 'Cause space is hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethon Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 EFT-1 Infographic. 8 key flight moments explained.http://www.universetoday.com/116312/cool-infographics-explain-8-key-events-on-orions-eft-1-test-flight/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longbyte1 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 EFT-1 Infographic. 8 key flight moments explained.http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Orionflightestprofile.jpghttp://www.universetoday.com/116312/cool-infographics-explain-8-key-events-on-orions-eft-1-test-flight/Statistics in customary system. Every. Single. Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motokid600 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 What's the reason for the black coloring on the capsule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Phil Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 It seems like the Delta IV Heavy could orbit the full Orion. Why can't we orbit it with a crew if all checks are good? Then we could have Dragon for supplies, and Orion for crew, to the ISS of course. Because as far as I know, the first crewed Orion is EM-2's vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Because that'd be considerably more expensive than just using one of the CCDEV vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorph555 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Because that'd be considerably more expensive than just using one of the CCDEV vehicles.I think he means using it for crew before the commercial ships come into service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Phil Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) Because that'd be considerably more expensive than just using one of the CCDEV vehicles.Dragon won't fly crew to the ISS for a while.I was saying to orbit a full Orion. An F9 could be used for just the capsule. Edited November 15, 2014 by Bill Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Dragon won't fly crew to the ISS for a while.And until then Soyuz works just fine. It's throwing a lot of money away for no good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Phil Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 And until then Soyuz works just fine. It's throwing a lot of money away for no good reason.Soyuz is expensive as well. It costs a large amount of money per seat. And the Russians will pull out of the ISS program in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B787_300 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 What's the reason for the black coloring on the capsule?it is not as much that it has a black coating, but that they decided not to use the White Paint on the EFT1 capsule. The reasoning for this is that it saves some small amount of weight and because the white paint is RIDICULOUSLY expensive (think of the cost like covering the capsule in gold foil).At least that was what the Orion EFT1 Flight Director said when he visited my school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Soyuz is expensive as well. It costs a large amount of money per seat. And the Russians will pull out of the ISS program in 2020.Soyuz costs $70 million a seat, so $210 million per crew rotation. DIVH alone costs $435 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Phil Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Soyuz costs $70 million a seat, so $210 million per crew rotation. DIVH alone costs $435 million.However, DIVH could be used in an EOR scenario, if they go that route. F9 costs around $60 million, and plus you don't have to transport the 'nauts to Russia, so if you put an Orion on an F9, without a service module, you could get a better price. Although, a CST-100 or Dragon would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomorph555 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 However, DIVH could be used in an EOR scenario, if they go that route. F9 costs around $60 million, and plus you don't have to transport the 'nauts to Russia, so if you put an Orion on an F9, without a service module, you could get a better price. Although, a CST-100 or Dragon would be better.You can't just chop off the service module and even if you could the capsule would be pushing it too far for an F9. Also due to the lack of the Orion production line it would probably be more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Phil Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You can't just chop off the service module and even if you could the capsule would be pushing it too far for an F9. Also due to the lack of the Orion production line it would probably be more expensive.Orion is designed to operate without the SM. The F9 can orbit almost 13 tons, Orion capsule is almost 10 tons. Hardly pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Orion is designed to operate without the SM. The F9 can orbit almost 13 tons, Orion capsule is almost 10 tons. Hardly pushing it. That's to a much lower inclination than the ISS, and an instated altitude; it doesn't mean they can actually put 13 tons to ISS. Particularly as Orion would be unable to actually intercept the station with no SM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Phil Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 That's to a much lower inclination than the ISS, and an instated altitude; it doesn't mean they can actually put 13 tons to ISS. Particularly as Orion would be unable to actually intercept the station with no SM.Oh I know, however, it's not pushing it, and the ISS orbit is still low, and takes a few hundred m/s to rendezvous at most, probably less, including the initial boost from your lower orbit to the target.Maybe a smaller propulsion stage rather than a full SM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethon Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Is Orion making other space craft green with envy?? Ask Lou Ferrigno- but don't make him angry. You wouldn't like him when he's angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motokid600 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Lou freaking Ferrigno... Is on bwoard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibb31 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Dragon won't fly crew to the ISS for a while.Neither will Orion. Dragon and CST-100 will be operation before Orion, and much cheaper.Orion is designed to operate without the SM. How so? Without the SM it has only power and life support for a few hours and no propulsion. Not much point in putting Orion into orbit if it can't even deorbit itself.It takes years to design and build a spacecraft. If you're going to redesign Orion for the ISS, including redesigning a smaller service module for LEO operations, then you end up with a whole new vehicle and another decade of delays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airlock Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Launch date: Dec 16. Elon shared some pics with us. Grid fins confirmed. Sorry for being brief - I'm stuck using a tablet. Edited November 23, 2014 by Airlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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