Console KSP Lifespan

[KJ2022]

With KSP launching this month on PS4 and Xbox One, how many of you guys think the game will die very quickly without mod support? 

[stibbons]

I think that it's great that you're trying to build a community by preemptively trashing large portions of it. Great work, you.

[KJ2022]

I'm not trying to trash it, I enjoy the game both with and without mods, but a large portion of gameplay on youtube features mods, some console users could feel pushed out because of that?

[HoloYolo]

I don't think it will last very long. The game is going to be extremely hard on console and people will have to relearn or just learn the game again. No mod support either would be a slap in the face too.

[stibbons]

So many people who don't play on consoles having an opinion about consoles.

[HoloYolo]

Just now, stibbons said:

So many people who don't play on consoles having an opinion about consoles.

Movie critics don't make movies do they?

[KJ2022]

Okay, I'll just not buy it for my PS4 and XB1 then...

[stibbons]

4 minutes ago, KJ2022 said:

I'm not trying to trash it

No, you're right. You're not. Which part of this was positive?

 

8 minutes ago, KJ2022 said:

how many of you guys think the game will die very quickly without mod support? 

 

[HoloYolo]

Just now, stibbons said:

No, you're right. You're not. Which part of this was positive?

 

 

It's a question. He's not trying to trash it, he's just seeing what other people would think.

[stibbons]

Just now, HoloYolo said:

Movie critics don't make movies do they?

Console critics don't make console games either. They play them. But I'm sure you were going somewhere relevant here.

[KJ2022]

Just now, stibbons said:

No, you're right. You're not. Which part of this was positive?

 

 

Which part of it was? it's concern, I want the game to boom on consoles, I've put more hours into KSP on computer than any other game, and I look forward to doing the same on console.

[stibbons]

1 minute ago, HoloYolo said:

It's a question. He's not trying to trash it, he's just seeing what other people would think.

Which part of it was positive? And, for bonus points, which part of it was not an hilariously leading question?

[HoloYolo]

Just now, stibbons said:

Console critics don't make console games either. They play them. But I'm sure you were going somewhere relevant here.

Well, SQUAD hasn't even previewed them or showed us a closed alpha or beta. We're not going to know until Monday. It will probably be a whole other game. We don't know. But you don't have to be the way you are now about this.

[stibbons]

1 minute ago, HoloYolo said:

It will probably be a whole other game. We don't know. But you don't have to be the way you are now about this.

You're right. We don't know. So it's unfair to have an opinion one way or the other. How does that tie in to "the way I am now about this"?

[HoloYolo]

9 minutes ago, stibbons said:

You're right. We don't know. So it's unfair to have an opinion one way or the other. How does that tie in to "the way I am now about this"?

You just seemed defensive, or maybe even mad. I'm sorry if you aren't or are, but I guess you are right.

[stibbons]

Yeah, right again. I bring reason in to a discussion about how porting KSP to consoles will destroy everything, and I'm the one who's mad. You're on a roll.

[MaxPeck]

25 minutes ago, stibbons said:

Yeah, right again. I bring reason in to a discussion about how porting KSP to consoles will destroy everything, and I'm the one who's mad. You're on a roll.

Dude, have a Snickers bar. 

[Corona688]

Like minecraft on console vs minecraft on PC, it's going to be a somewhat different game.

Remember, these will be primarily new players, ones who haven't spent the last 4 years wringing out every possibility of the game;  they will also be console players, used to the limitations console games face in general.  I think they will also be somewhat younger on average.

So, they're not going to run around in circles and tear their hair out like distressed rabbits.  Instead, like minecraft on console vs minecraft on PC vs minecraft on tablet, there will be relatively separate playerbases.  That is what everyone is really dreading, I think, an influx of newbies.  Too bad.  We were all newbies once.

Squad ought to start setting up wiki and forum spaces for that pretty much immediately though, if it's not there on launch there will be confusion.

Edited July 2, 2016 by Corona688

[Kerbart]

1 hour ago, HoloYolo said:

Movie critics don't make movies do they?

But they do tend to watch a movie before writing about it.

Edited July 2, 2016 by Kerbart

[stibbons]

1 hour ago, MaxPeck said:

Dude, have a Snickers bar. 

Hey, thanks for your contribution. I'm not sure how it applies to this discussion though. Would you care to elaborate a little?

[Corona688]

Congratulations, you have let him derail you.

Just lighten up and ignore it.

[Violent Jeb]

[redacted, done]

Edited August 16, 2016 by Violent Jeb

[nosirrbro]

3 hours ago, stibbons said:

Yeah, right again. I bring reason in to a discussion about how porting KSP to consoles will destroy everything, and I'm the one who's mad. You're on a roll.

Someone likes their consoles a little bit too much.

[the_Demongod]

53 minutes ago, Violent Jeb said:

Can't beat the controller for first person games (imo)

Really? What kind of first person games? Obviously FPS like Battlefield are far better on mouse simply from a precision standpoint, and I'm having trouble coming up with other first person games that wouldn't suffer from that. 3rd person games (like the Witcher, Dark Souls, etc) definitely work well with controllers, but first person with a controller is extremely clumsy and a player with mouse+keyboard will beat a controller any day of the week. A game like KSP might be even worse though, since it literally relies on the mouse in the way that the rest of the operating system does (i.e. clicking on things on screen, not just moving it to look around), so I'm interested in seeing how Squad prevents selecting things from becoming typing-with-a-controller-simulator-2016.

[Red Iron Crown]

I think the question is a legitimate one. I certainly wouldn't have stuck with KSP for so long without mods.

That said:

- We don't know if the console versions will support mods or not. (I suspect not, but that hasn't been officially confirmed afaik.)

- We don't know how good/bad KSP will be on consoles. Will it perform adequately? Will the control scheme be serviceable? Will it update at the same pace as the PC version?

These questions are, IMO, the critical ones to KSP's success on consoles.