Fan shrouds and vtol planes

[Veldez]

I am having many issues trying to use fan shrouds to make a tilt wing vtol aircraft.

1. How do you even get the shrouds attached? The only attachment point is the one inside for the motor.

2. Is there an upside and a downside orientation for the shrouds? I cannot tell if the side with the motor mount is supposed to be at the top or the bottom.

3. I am also unable to actually to get the fan blades evenly attached, especially once the motor is mounted inside the shroud. Should I maybe try to build the motor and blade assembly first then mount it inside? When I have tried this way I seem to be unable to get the motor to mount to ANYTHING.

4. I only have the small shrouds and motors right now. What is the most I can get them to lift, weight-wise, using 6 or 8 fans?

Any tutorials or help would be appreciated. I am terrible at building fixed wing aircraft, and was hoping to make something the could land vertically and also get most of its lift and velocity solely from fans. I should also mention I am currently trying to use fixed wing surfaces, and just tilt the shrouds for vectoring.

[Xd the great]

8 hours ago, Veldez said:

1. How do you even get the shrouds attached? The only attachment point is the one inside for the motor.

2. Is there an upside and a downside orientation for the shrouds? I cannot tell if the side with the motor mount is supposed to be at the top or the bottom.

3. I am also unable to actually to get the fan blades evenly attached, especially once the motor is mounted inside the shroud. Should I maybe try to build the motor and blade assembly first then mount it inside? When I have tried this way I seem to be unable to get the motor to mount to ANYTHING.

4. I only have the small shrouds and motors right now. What is the most I can get them to lift, weight-wise, using 6 or 8 fans?

Any tutorials or help would be appreciated. I am terrible at building fixed wing aircraft, and was hoping to make something the could land vertically and also get most of its lift and velocity solely from fans. I should also mention I am currently trying to use fixed wing surfaces, and just tilt the shrouds for vectoring.

1. Mount it as surface attachment, and drag it around as you wish.

2. Probably yes, the 3 backbone connecting the shroud and the motor is below the mortar.

3. I usually first place the shroud, then place 1 motor without using symmetry, fix the blades as you wish, then copy/paste the motor elsewhere. You may want to rotate the blades, deploy them, and mess with the sliders.

[AHHans]

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When I have tried this way I seem to be unable to get the motor to mount to ANYTHING.

[Edit: That quote should have been from @Veldez ]

It might help to hold <Right-Shift> (On windows <Alt>) when placing the motor+blade assembly. That tells KSP to "only" attach to nodes and thus makes it easier to attach it to the node you want. Also first rotate the unattached assembly into the orientation that it needs to be to attach.

Edited March 7, 2020 by AHHans

[Xd the great]

1 hour ago, AHHans said:

It might help to hold <Right-Shift> (On windows <Alt>) when placing the motor+blade assembly. That tells KSP to "only" attach to nodes and thus makes it easier to attach it to the node you want. Also first rotate the unattached assembly into the orientation that it needs to be to attach.

Why are you quoting me?

[AHHans]

20 minutes ago, Xd the great said:

Why are you quoting me?

Sorry, fat fingered the line that I marked for quoting. (And it seems that I cannot insert a quote for another posting when editing.)