I Need Help Buying A Gaming Pc

[KIWIZ]

Hi guys! This is my first time posting on these forums and i need some help.

I have £500 to spend on a gaming pc and i need it to run Fraps and KSP at least 30 frames per second.

Thanks for any suggestions.

NOTES:

I would prefer an Intel processor.

Also a Nvidia graphics card.

Please use £ for pricing

Maximum price £430 (£70 for windows 7)

[TNTGODZZ]

BUILD YOUR OWN. seriously, it would be cheaper. for £430, that is ALOT to ask for both intel and nvidia in your system. id get an amd processor(they will do the job just as good) and also an amd graphics card(there is little difference between nvidia and amd at the same price point.

Edited September 15, 2012 by TNTGODZZ

[KIWIZ]

BUILD YOUR OWN. seriously, it would be cheaper. for £430, that is ALOT to ask for both intel and nvidia in your system. id get an amd processor(they will do the job just as good) and also an amd graphics card(there is little difference between nvidia and amd at the same price point.

Okay but ive seen this - http://www.ebuyer.com/388945-zoostorm-gaming-pc-7873-0424 - This is £400 would it be able to run fraps and ksp?

[LukeTim]

Okay but ive seen this - http://www.ebuyer.com/388945-zoostorm-gaming-pc-7873-0424 - This is £400 would it be able to run fraps and ksp?

To call that thing a "gaming PC" is laughable.

[nerfsmurf]

Go to newegg.com

Buy a 20-50 dollar motherboard, 100 dollar cpu, 100 dollar videocard, 30 dollars worth of memory, 30-50 dollar PSU, use your current PC case, put it all together!

OR

What is your current computer? You may be able to buy a videocard and some ram and be set

[TNTGODZZ]

To call that thing a "gaming PC" is laughable.

agreed,

http://www.cclonline.com/product/82442/NoMfgCode/All-CCL-Desktops/CCL-Elite-Hawk-II-Gaming-PC/CCL-EL-HWK2/

this isnt much, but its better than that "gaming pc"

[KIWIZ]

Ok, i went on that website and found this. I customized it to an intel i5. Im not looking for a brilliant gaming system. I am looking to find something to play KSP with.

Intel Core i5-2400 3.1GHz Quad Core Processor

2x 4GB RAM

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GT640 2GB Graphics Card

Would these specs be good enough for playing KSP?

If not what would you change?

Thanks for all your help!

[LukeTim]

Ok, i went on that website and found this. I customized it to an intel i5. Im not looking for a brilliant gaming system. I am looking to find something to play KSP with.

Intel Core i5-2400 3.1GHz Quad Core Processor

2x 4GB RAM

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GT640 2GB Graphics Card

Would these specs be good enough for playing KSP?

If not what would you change?

Thanks for all your help!

Seriously, on a budget like yours AMD is the way to go. I know a few years ago Intel ruled supreme, but modern AMD processors are perfectly fine and will run KSP well. Not to mention the machine that TNTGODZZ linked has a much better graphics card than that...

Cutting down on CPU price by going AMD allows you to get a better GPU which is what is most important in gaming. This machine which TNTGODZZ linked: http://www.cclonline.com/product/82442/NoMfgCode/All-CCL-Desktops/CCL-Elite-Hawk-II-Gaming-PC/CCL-EL-HWK2/ is more than capable of running KSP and will do so better than the ones you have suggested.

Also, gaming benefits more from clock speed than number of cores... and that one has a higher clock than the one you propose.

Edited September 16, 2012 by LukeTim

[TNTGODZZ]

Ok, i went on that website and found this. I customized it to an intel i5. Im not looking for a brilliant gaming system. I am looking to find something to play KSP with.

Intel Core i5-2400 3.1GHz Quad Core Processor

2x 4GB RAM

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GT640 2GB Graphics Card

Would these specs be good enough for playing KSP?

If not what would you change?

Thanks for all your help!

i deliberately went for amd over intel at this price point, and adding an i5 to that system would make it well over your budget. the amd system has a great, future proof graphics card, and room for upgrade eventually to a better processor. like LukeTim said, amd is probably your best bet on that budget. hell, my amd system is a year and a half old, i made it with £350, and when i next recived £350 (birthday, both times) i upgraded it. if you uped your budget from £500 including the os, to say £600~650, you would get much, much better.

[jfx]

i deliberately went for amd over intel at this price point, and adding an i5 to that system would make it well over your budget. the amd system has a great, future proof graphics card, and room for upgrade eventually to a better processor. like LukeTim said, amd is probably your best bet on that budget. hell, my amd system is a year and a half old, i made it with £350, and when i next recived £350 (birthday, both times) i upgraded it. if you uped your budget from £500 including the os, to say £600~650, you would get much, much better.

AMD Processors are no match for Intel at the Moment. In a Game like KSP which utilizes only a single thread even an i3 or a Pentium G will put any AMD FX or Llano CPU to shame. On top of that this is unlikely to change during the lifetime of the AM3(+) socket. If you do a search on this forum you will see plenty of people who get worse performance with a new AMD CPU compared to their old Core2s or similar stuff.

example benchmark (I have no idea where this aricle is on the english page, sorry - the diagrams should be self explanatory though) amd fx-8000 gets bested by a cute little sandy bridge based pentium budget-CPU.

http://www.tomshardware.de/guild-wars-2-performance-benchmark,testberichte-241090-7.html

Techreport did an excellent review focused on frame times recently:

http://techreport.com/review/23246/inside-the-second-gaming-performance-with-today-cpus/3

If you check the last graph on that page you'll see why AMDs lineup is a no-go for gaming unless you have to cut into your food budget to pay for your gaming rig.

Edited September 17, 2012 by jfx