nivvydaskrl Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Well, for my non-symmetrically placed control surfaces-- the canards and tail-- what I did was build one wing, clone it with Alt-Click, and then place the whole assembly at once, allowing me to line it up vertically and have all the horizontal symmetry taken care of. The only issue was the tailfins and landing gear on the tail, since those invert when you do it, so I had to remove those and replace them manually. The horizontal is still in close alignment but the vertical may be out.Well, for my non-symmetrically placed control surfaces-- the canards and tail-- what I did was build one wing, clone it with Alt-Click, and then place the whole assembly at once,clone it with Alt-ClickThis. Changes. Everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamyesque Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Ended in YAFB. Deployed my drogue too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jarnis Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 DAMNIT.At 12h40m, heap error.Ouch...The fact that KSP is not proven stable over long (multi-hour) flights is the reason why I haven\'t participated, but that design is epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamyesque Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarnis Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Hmm... that landing...'How are you going to use that again?' is a quote that comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamyesque Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Oh, and in case anyone\'s curious:The craft and the one custom part I used, the tweaked ASAS. Standard packs were C7 Aviation & Hardpoints and Nova Silisko\'s Donut Industries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comradephil Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 My larger global flier wouldn\'t even run properly on my computer, I had a sad.Why did you start flying higher than 6000m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damonjay Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 My larger global flier wouldn\'t even run properly on my computer, I had a sad.Why did you start flying higher than 6000m?Do you mean why did he cruise at around 10000? if that is the question its because there is thinner atmosphere which means less drag which means more efficient cruising + faster speeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamyesque Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 My larger global flier wouldn\'t even run properly on my computer, I had a sad.Why did you start flying higher than 6000m?I redid the rocket somewhat and used C7\'s thruster instead of Sunday Punch\'s; the only parts it now uses are NS and C7\'s, aside from my ASAS redo. C7\'s thruster provides more even with the throttle as low as I had it, which allows for higher and faster cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordid Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 Good god, man! I didn\'t think anyone could actually do it. I\'m astonished.You\'re still not going into the pages of history without a proper landing, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamyesque Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Good god, man! I didn\'t think anyone could actually do it. I\'m astonished.You\'re still not going into the pages of history without a proper landing, though. >I\'ll get you yet Sordid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoxtane Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Seems the problem is that your parachute is dragging your front end down-- why not put some on the end of the plane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamyesque Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Seems the problem is that your parachute is dragging your front end down-- why not put some on the end of the plane?It\'s the reverse, actually; the chute helps pull my nose up as well as kill forward speed (to an extent). I simply left deploying it too late and was distracted with taking screenshots. I have successfully landed it in test flights, successfully being defined as crew survival, but it could do with some work to avoid having the wings drag on the ground and explode. I could, with C7\'s hardpoints, probably add more chutes, but I don\'t think that will be necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordid Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 It\'s the reverse, actually; the chute helps pull my nose up as well as kill forward speed (to an extent). I simply left deploying it too late and was distracted with taking screenshots. I have successfully landed it in test flights, successfully being defined as crew survival, but it could do with some work to avoid having the wings drag on the ground and explode. I could, with C7\'s hardpoints, probably add more chutes, but I don\'t think that will be necessary.You could just jettison the capsule. As for the wings, why not simply put landing skids on them? You still had plenty of fuel at the end, so the increased drag (and therefore fuel consumption) wouldn\'t be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamyesque Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 You could just jettison the capsule. As for the wings, why not simply put landing skids on them? You still had plenty of fuel at the end, so the increased drag (and therefore fuel consumption) wouldn\'t be a problem.Bah, jettisoning the capsule is the lazy man\'s way out. Besides, I\'d need a decoupler. I\'ve actually landed the ship without the parachute deployed, so I know that\'s possible, too. And yes, putting gear on the wings is the plan. I had hoped that swapping the skids for gear would do it, but my test flights still consistently had my wing-ends tear off on landing, even if the rest was fine. =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordid Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 Well to be quite fair, that means you are replicating the actual flight of Rutan\'s Voyager fairly accurately. -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutan_Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorfinn Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Foamy, I just wanted to say that your aircraft is beautiful.I would put it as a game balancing requirement, that your plane must still be able to fly well in the future aerodynamic models (even if not flying on fumes, like it does now ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamyesque Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Well, testing has given me consistent landings but caused other issues. Next flight will be on the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamyesque Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I decided to try something a bit different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundHOG2010 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 wow. Should I make it a 2 horse race??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrit Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 wow. Should I make it a 2 horse race???Go for it. And best of luck to you too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comradephil Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Foamy, you are a god among men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamyesque Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Foamy, you are a god among menEh, I keep getting these weird hard CTDs with that ship. I think it\'s too many collisions or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0stal b0b Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Welp, I gave it a shot with a small canard plane I created purely out of stock & C7 parts, & I think I\'ve broken physics. Using AdSAS to keep the plane\'s attitude locked, It somehow seems to be able to glide indefinitely at about 8011m & 111m/s, with no cfg tweaking at all. Thus far it\' been going for about 17 hours at 2x time, & has covered 7020636.2m over ground, which is about 1.8 orbits if the planet is indeed 1200km across. It shows no signs of stopping, so I\'m going to work now, & I\'ll see where it is when I get home. Pics will follow for you sceptics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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