starplayer Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Hi guys. I'm using the data from the KSP calculator, using a simple stage with just one liquid fuel ttank and one engine. So, to calculate the Delta V by the Rocket equation, it is DeltaV = Ve * ln(m0/m1), where Ve is the effective exhaust velocity, m0 is the inicial mass, and m1 is the mass after burnout. Ve = Specific Impulse / g at surface according to wikipedia. Using the data from the calculator, Ve=5541 * 9.81=54366 m/s and Delta V = 54366 * ln(4500/2300) = 36488 m/s, which is obviously wrong. Can somebody tell me where's the error? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entroper Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I think Ve is just 5 541, not 5 541*g.EDIT: Ve for a liquid engine is 5 682 m/s, according to my earlier calculations on the wiki: http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/~kerbalsp/wiki/index.php?title=PartsSpecific Impulse can be given in terms of mass (Newton-seconds per kilogram, equivalent to meters per second) or in terms of weight (Newton-seconds per Newton, or just seconds). On the wiki, I listed it in terms of mass, so you don't need to multiply by g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starplayer Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 I've been reading more, and in this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_impulse , in the Examples part, you can see that the specific impulse for the listed liquid engine is only 450, with an exhaust velocity of 4400, which comes from 450*9.81. The specific impulse shouldn't be equal to the exhaust velocity. The Kerbal liquid engine's specific impulse that is in the wiki, 5682 s, is greater than that of a Ion thruster, that can't be right. I think the liquid's engine specific impulse is only 5682/9.81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entroper Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 See this section of the Wikipedia article for clarity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_impulse#Specific_impulse_as_a_speed_.28effective_exhaust_velocity.29 I also have a note in the KSP wiki article explaining this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starplayer Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Oh right, thanks a lot, that thing slipped me. =)However, the specific impulse in the KSP calculator is in seconds, I'll message the creator of the calculator. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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