Grand tour from Eeloo... To Duna or Dres next?

[CatastrophicFailure]

Now that they've landed on every Joolian moon and arrived at Laythe, my ambitious crew has decided to do the full grand tour, wait out the three year transfer window to Eeloo, and from there planet hop down to Moho, being reapplied en route. So for the next step, what's the most efficient route? Dres is closest of course, but that makes for an ugly plane change and a lot of delta v to capture into orbit. Duna is farther but has an atmosphere for aerocapture, plus a potential boost from Ike departing, but then it's backtracking to Dres.

Input?

[joppiesaus]

Ok, sounds all awsome.... Who are "they"?

[Xaiier]

Plane change is easy from eeloo orbit, id go for dres first.

[Ralathon]

Dres --> Duna should cost less dV as well. I'd aim for Dres.

[Patupi]

I like the idea of a grand tour. I've been rather focused on Jool and Laythe recently, with a lot of Extraplanetary Landing Pads and Kethane. Maybe a Grand tour would be a nice challenge?

Are you planning on doing it nearly or completely stock or going all modded? I'd probably do it with a few. Kethane would make a heck of a difference to it, having to carry a lot of probes (or maybe a few re-useable probes) to scan, then mining landers as well as others... plus one or two special heavy landers for Eve. Otherwise you'll need a very large quantity of fuel for this thing! Doable, but tricky.

[Mr Shifty]

wait out the three year transfer window to Eeloo

There are decent 3.5-4 km/s transfer windows from Kerbin to Eeloo about every 100 days: http://alexmoon.github.io/ksp/

[CatastrophicFailure]

I like the idea of a grand tour. I've been rather focused on Jool and Laythe recently, with a lot of Extraplanetary Landing Pads and Kethane. Maybe a Grand tour would be a nice challenge?

Are you planning on doing it nearly or completely stock or going all modded? I'd probably do it with a few. Kethane would make a heck of a difference to it, having to carry a lot of probes (or maybe a few re-useable probes) to scan, then mining landers as well as others... plus one or two special heavy landers for Eve. Otherwise you'll need a very large quantity of fuel for this thing! Doable, but tricky.

Thats how this flight started too, supposed to be just a Joolian moon tour. Now I'm just killing kerbals time till .21 comes out and finally kills wahoonie-shaped save for good and I can get "serious" again. Don't have the patience for the whole kethane thing at the moment. The main ship, which the crew has rechristened the Righteous Indignation III has a delta-v budget around 13 kps fully fueled, so I figure from this point I'll just need to send a couple of tankers here & there. Everything after Dres will need specialized landers anyway so it's pretty straightforward to send some extra fuel along to be waiting at the target.

Yes, modded up the yin-yang. Hybrid ion engines and a bunch of Soviet pack parts mostly. Still figuring how exactly to do the Eve return. Thinking I might try an ion powered aircraft with a small rocket to kick the one Kerbal capsule back to orbit.

Ok, sounds all awsome.... Who are "they"?

Bunch of fellows all named Kerman IIRC. My .20 saves have both gone so completely Kerbal I stopped keeping track of names weeks ago. AND this flight started with three, now there are six...? Little green buggers are actually breeding. Not sure if I want to bring those extra three along or not. Maybe I'll just leave them on Laythe & see what comes of it.

Edited July 12, 2013 by CatastrophicFailure

[CatastrophicFailure]

There are decent 3.5-4 km/s transfer windows from Kerbin to Eeloo about every 100 days: http://alexmoon.github.io/ksp/

Right, but the crew & ship is already at Laythe, so...

Thanx for the link tho, that'll be all sorts of useful for mulling over transfers away from home. Wow and it's telling me up to 5 years at Eeloo waiting for a Dres window. That's a long time throwing nitrogen-snowballs at each other!

Edited July 12, 2013 by CatastrophicFailure

[Patupi]

Wait, Rightious Indignation? Did you by any chance watch Bucky O Hare a long time ago? I haven't seen that in a long time. Cheaply made and a bit cheesy but I rather liked it.

[CatastrophicFailure]

Yup that's where I got the name, tho I had to google it myself to remember what it was from. Remember absolutely nothing else about the show but the name's stuck with me all these years.

[Patupi]

I'm embarrassed to say I can quote the words to the song by heart. Hence I remember the ship's name since it was in the song. God, how long ago was that?Twenty years? Twenty five?

Song tunes I can usually remember ages later. Lyrics usually not. Ahem, I might have been a little hooked on it way back then. Heck, I still hum a tune to some obscure BT advert from the 80s! I vaguely remember it had a stylized view of the ground, then panned upwards, showing all the things they did, all the way up to satellites.

Edited July 12, 2013 by Patupi

[CatastrophicFailure]

'91 according to the wiki. Since you mentioned it I had to go dig up the intro. You weren't kidding, any more cheese they could sell pizzas. Still can't remember a durn thing about the show its self tho, which is wierd cuz I know I used to watch it.

Here, in all its highly reflective glory, is my RI3 (the RI2 met with a bugged save file).

Plugging some numbers into that handy delta V calculator, it does indeed save around 800 mps taking the obvious route to Dres first.

[Patupi]

I've seen those solar panels a lot recently. Which mod are they from?

Rough plot summary from show.

Genius kid builds 'Photon accelerator' and accidentally teleports onto the Righteous Indignation, a ship defending an alliance of mammal aliens from a bunch of homicidal frogs (Yes, frogs!) who are bent on galactic domination with the help of some souped up planetary super computer... ie the computer is a planet (sort of).

Basically aliens are animals from Earth given a slight twist. Mammals good guys. Reptilians bad guys.

Bucky O hare is a kind of Biggles analogue in space. Ace pilot and leads a crew on... missions and stuff. Yeah, I can't remember much about specific episodes either, just the kid joined his crew as engineer thanks to his genius IQ.

Edited July 16, 2013 by Patupi