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[space] Is Mars-one a scam?

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SargeRho

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...Eh. What? You're comparing something that would require splitting the 2nd largest object in the solar system in half, and somehow converting it into snow shoes for people to wear with heating up a planet by introducing green house gases. Your strawman-building skills are unrivaled.

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karolus10

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Ok, what do you think about the chances of splitting Jupiter and wearing it as snow shoes? Sounds plausible, right?

After reading this post I realized that my imagination failed me... terribly :huh:.

I'm reminding you guys to stick with discussing about mars-one, thank You !

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hugix

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Personally I don't think terraforming is science fact. We did something to our climate on Earth, that much is clear. but what and how and where will it end? We do not know.

But even if terraforming was a fact, it would cost A LOT of money. And Mars-one nowhere on the website mentions definite plans of it. Currently Mars-one has a budget of $132,575 . If they want to send the first stuff to Mars in 2016 they'd better hurry up with the money. you cannot finance a Mars mission by selling T-shirts.

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SpaceHole

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Currently Mars-one has a budget of $132,575 . If they want to send the first stuff to Mars in 2016 they'd better hurry up with the money. you cannot finance a Mars mission by selling T-shirts.

Well you are wrong!

Mars One - Plans will cost about 30 Billion Dollars (for more than one launch etc.)

- 130.000,- already collected

Needed: 30.000.000.000,-

Donations: 130.000,-

So they only need additional 29.999.870.000,-

T-Shirt cost: 15 Dollars/shirt -7 dollars for transport and

original costs

Profit per T-shirt: 7 dollars

Number of sales needed:

only 4.285.695.714

World Population: about 7.106.000.000

So even if only about 2/3 of mankind would buy such a t-shirt they would have more than enough money not to mention that t-shirts have to be bought again once you grow bigger or it gets damaged.

So in fact you can finance a Mars-Mission by selling T-Shirts.

(yes - i am pretty bored ...) :confused:

edit: oh snap i forgot taxes - lets just say they sell taxfree from some remote island without laws or taxes

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Tw1

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Lol, somebody needs to introduce those dudes to the idea of keeping your center of thrust in line with your center of mass. The only thing a real life Enterprise would do is loops. Terrible design for a spacecraft.

I was searching the page for info on the exact same thing! It's basically rule one for my kerbals.

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Moon Goddess

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Yeah, and I love that they fit it with 100MW laser, just in case they run into some Klingons on the way to Mars. Ridiculous is an understatement.

I just love the lengths that they go to to try to keep it enterprise shaped.

We'll put fuel here, even though it would be better over here but this is the shape we've got

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lajoswinkler

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When they get to mars they forget the porn so they have to go back to earth

Don't worry, they would make their own live porn there. When you've got a low, fixed number of people in a small closed environment, it's just a matter of time before they snap. First they engage in drinking sessions, then they **** like mad, then they kill each other.

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Don't worry, they would make their own live porn there. When you've got a low, fixed number of people in a small closed environment, it's just a matter of time before they snap. First they engage in drinking sessions, then they **** like mad, then they kill each other.

Are you sure you're not confusing real life with Dwarf Fortress?

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The world is flat! --- science many years ago.....

Look we found the west indies! ------ Chris.

Chris: Hey guys, guess what! The earth is round!

Science: Yeah we've known since, like, 500 BC.

Chris: And it's around 30,000 km in diameter.

Science: Yeah, we've know since... Wait... don't you mean 40,000 km?

Chris: Nope, Ptolemy, Eratosthenes, Aristotle, all wrong! Also, Asia stretches at more than 220° around the world.

Science: Are you sure you don't you mean under 180°?

Chris: Nope, once again, all the sources that disagree with me are wrong.

Science: 'kay...

Chris: Therefore by my calculations it is only around 4,000 km to China going west, and I'm going to prove it!

Science: Right then, good luck with that.

*three months pass*

Chris: I'm in CHINA!

Science: What?

Chris: Greetings people of China, I have come to trade for your silk and tea and various spices.

Science: What?

Chris: I see. You have no silk, or tea or various spices. Obviously these are only islands off the coast of China. Kidnap some of the more important looking ones, they will lead us to the Chinese mainland.

Science: WHAT?

Amerigo: Excuse me, Science, I do believe it is likely that he has accidentally discovered an entirely new continent.

Science: Yeah, congratulations, we are naming it after you.

Amerigo: Why me?

Chris: GREETINGS PEOPLE OF CHINA!

Amerigo: I see.

While Christopher Columbus' reputation has suffered greatly, and perhaps excessively, under historical review it should be pointed out that the notion that he alone believed the world was round while all the learned men of the day told him it was flat is an early 18th century fantasy.

The truly revolutionary ideas that made his voyages possible (at least in his own mind) consisted of a new estimate of the diameter of the Earth and an unconventional estimate of the size of Asia. In both cases Columbus' numbers disagreed greatly with the commonly accepted numbers of the day, what "science" knew at the time. Of course we now know that the commonly accepted numbers of the day were much, much closer to reality.

If the Americas had not been there Columbus would be an obscure footnote in history, a name on small a monument in southwestern Spain bearing the epitaph "I really thought we would have been there by now."

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iDan122

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We thought going to the Moon is a scam, but they did it in what like 8 years? Mars One is not-for-profit and I bet they can do the same. When I earn 10 billion, 5 will go to Mars-One. This is a project which can push us years ahead and help us advance and understand interplanetary transportation.

Dan. If I die, I want to die on Mars.

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iDan122

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Well you are wrong!

Mars One - Plans will cost about 30 Billion Dollars (for more than one launch etc.)

- 130.000,- already collected

Needed: 30.000.000.000,-

Donations: 130.000,-

So they only need additional 29.999.870.000,-

T-Shirt cost: 15 Dollars/shirt -7 dollars for transport and

original costs

Profit per T-shirt: 7 dollars

Number of sales needed:

only 4.285.695.714

World Population: about 7.106.000.000

So even if only about 2/3 of mankind would buy such a t-shirt they would have more than enough money not to mention that t-shirts have to be bought again once you grow bigger or it gets damaged.

So in fact you can finance a Mars-Mission by selling T-Shirts.

(yes - i am pretty bored ...) :confused:

edit: oh snap i forgot taxes - lets just say they sell taxfree from some remote island without laws or taxes

That's it, I'm starting my T-shirt company.

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Nibb31

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We thought going to the Moon is a scam

No we didn't.

but they did it in what like 8 years?

For $100 billion.

Mars One is not-for-profit and I bet they can do the same.

I don't see how they could, they are short of $99 999 860 000.

When I earn 10 billion, 5 will go to Mars-One.

If, not when. And they would still be short of $94 999 860 000.

This is a project which can push us years ahead and help us advance and understand interplanetary transportation.

Not really.

Dan. If I die, I want to die on Mars.

When, not if. And I'd rather live long and prosper than die prematurely from starvation alone on Mars.

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thereaverofdarkness

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The biggest problem with the Mars One project is that it relies on getting enough funding from a world population that is far too incredulous despite so much scientific evidence to demonstrate that a mission like this is relatively cheap and easy to pull off compared to the extreme and very necessary benefits it provides to all of us. I am skeptical about the mission because I doubt they will be able to convince enough of you suckers to believe in it.

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thereaverofdarkness

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After spending 23 pages explaining why sending people on a one-way trip to Mars is neither cheap nor easy (or even particularly desirable), there are still gullible folks to support the idea. Quite amazing.

Cheap or easy is relative. What seems very difficult for one person can be much easier and cheaper than the stuff large corporations manage all the time. Now a Mars colony is expensive no matter how you look at it, no one corporation on Earth is capable of shelling out that kind of money on a whim, yet there are still larger expenditures on almost a yearly basis so it's not even remotely outside the realm of possibility.

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