The space-plane of death challenge

[Cboehme]

UPDATED

this is a hard challenge, I will be posting my plane soon

rules:

must be at least 50 tons

must be a space plane

must fly for at least 1 minute without crashing

It must have at least 2 cockpits

No RCS

Stock Only,

Minute To Win it: primary objective is 100 points

Flying Fortress: over 150 tons is 100 points

Turbulence: No winglets is 25 points

We lost the Airlerons: No control surfaces is 75 points

Sky Castle: over 250 tons is 200 points

Minimal: less than 3 engines is 100 points

Orange Flavored: Rockomax Orange tanks only is 50 points

Rocket Plane: Only Rocket engines is 25

50,000 pound Glider: No engines is 250 points

Hard Mode: Flying around Kerbin is 500 points

Happy Landings: Landing safely is 200 points

Nightmare mode: flying outside of minnmus orbit is 1,000 points

Manley Mode:flyby of duna is 5,000 points

0_0: flyby of Jool, or one of it's moons is 7,500 points

W O W: flyby of eeloo 8,000 points

VTOL: VTOL is 1,000 points

Sweetness: Cool name is 100 points

that doesn't look right: asymmetrical is 300 points

deductions:

mechjeb -500 points,

any other mod -2,000 points

more than 8 engines -50 per engine

hall of fame:

9,200 points: numerobis

+7,500 (0_0)

+100 (Minute To Win it)

+500 (Hard Mode)

+200 (Happy Landings)

+1000 (Outside of Minmus)

-100 non-working mechjeb

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6,175 points: Vector

+5,000 (Manley Mode)

+1,000 (Hard Mode)

+100 (Primary)

+50 (Orange Flavored)

+25 (Turbulence)

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Edited October 16, 2013 by Cboehme

[sparty48]

I think this has been done...

[Sesni]

I doubt this is possible. Read challange form submissions.

[Cboehme]

I think this has been done...

There is an asymmetrical plane challenge not a 50 ton plane challenge, I changed the rules a little to make it so asymmetry isn't essential.

[Cboehme]

I doubt this is possible. Read challange form submissions.

Possible, but hard.

[numerobis]

Does this qualify?

With a barely-working MechJeb (this was a very early version of MechJeb 2.0, a month or two before release): SmartASS worked in space but was useless in the atmosphere, kind of thing. Throttle controller was on, since I wrote it for this spacecraft.

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56t on liftoff.

One cockpit and three crew containers. Does that fulfill the two-cockpit rule?

Symmetry is unclear. Most planes are asymmetric: there's a vertical stabilizer on top and wheels on the bottom. But you give it 300 points.

If that qualifies, then it's:

+100 (Minute To Win it)

+500 (Hard Mode, if orbiting counts)

+200 (Happy Landings)

+1000 (Outside of Minmus)

+300 (That doesn't look right, if a rover underbelly and extra intakes top-wing count)

Total 2100, or 1800 depending on symmetry definition.

Edited October 15, 2013 by numerobis

[Cboehme]

The Buffalo:

I don't have an image... ugh...

137.86 tons,

asymmetrical,

no control surfaces,

no RCS,

no winglets,

0.5 second flight time,

three rockomax Mainsail engines,

three orange tanks,

4 side-mounted VTOL engines,

2 cockpits,

crew survived crash, that counts as a landing.

I get 0 score.

[Cboehme]

Does this qualify?

With a barely-working MechJeb (this was a very early version of MechJeb 2.0, a month or two before release): SmartASS worked in space but was useless in the atmosphere, kind of thing. Throttle controller was on, since I wrote it for this spacecraft.

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56t on liftoff.

One cockpit and three crew containers. Does that fulfill the two-cockpit rule?

Symmetry is unclear. Most planes are asymmetric: there's a vertical stabilizer on top and wheels on the bottom. But you give it 300 points.

If that qualifies, then it's:

+100 (Minute To Win it)

+500 (Hard Mode, if orbiting counts)

+200 (Happy Landings)

+1000 (Outside of Minmus)

+300 (That doesn't look right, if a rover underbelly and extra intakes top-wing count)

Total 2100, or 1800 depending on symmetry definition.

Hmm, I'll have to deduct some points for mechjeb. but you said it didn't work well, the symmetry is left/right, not top/down

so i'd say 1700 points.

however, it does not fulfill the 8 engine limit, if you still want to keep the submission, using that many jet engines would bring you down to about 1,000 but still, it's more than my 0.

EDIT:

Sorry, I accidentally remove the thing that said 8 engine limit when I polished the point system, I just added a deduction system.

Edited October 15, 2013 by Cboehme

[numerobis]

4 jets, 1 LV-N, and two ions on the rover (because I built this for a pre-rover-wheel version). So that's 7 engines, of which only 4 are used in the atmosphere. There are 90-odd intakes on cubes, maybe that's what you're mistaking for engines?

By the way, 5000 for Duna, but nothing for other bodies?

pa1983 can clean up here on this one of course, totally stock.

Edited October 16, 2013 by numerobis

[Vector]

Primary objective: 100 points

No winglets: 25 points

Orange flavored: 50 points

Nightmare Mode (Beyond Minmus): 1000 points

Manly Mode (Flyby of Duna): 5000

No mods, exactly 8 engines.

Total: 6,175

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Craft file is here.

I attempted a crash-landing on Duna, unfortunately none survived (and I hadn't saved). Space-plane of death indeed. I had enough TWR, in retrospect I should have gone for a rocket-style landing, as I was able to lose almost all the velocity in the atmosphere.

[Cboehme]

By the way, 5000 for Duna, but nothing for other bodies?

I need to add stuff for other planets, I didn't think anyone could get a space-plane to jool.

and sorry about the engines, I thought you had 1 per-intake. I updated the score, and added a couple achievements.

Edited October 16, 2013 by Cboehme

[Cboehme]

Primary objective: 100 points

No winglets: 25 points

Orange flavored: 50 points

Nightmare Mode (Beyond Minmus): 1000 points

Manly Mode (Flyby of Duna): 5000

No mods, exactly 8 engines.

Total: 6,175

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Craft file is here.

I attempted a crash-landing on Duna, unfortunately none survived (and I hadn't saved). Space-plane of death indeed. I had enough TWR, in retrospect I should have gone for a rocket-style landing, as I was able to lose almost all the velocity in the atmosphere.

Great craft, but how much does it weigh?

[numerobis]

I need to add stuff for other planets, I didn't think anyone could get a space-plane to jool.

If you get to orbit you're more than halfway to anywhere.

Mine is a return-capable flight with loads of extra mass for story purposes. I never actually returned because I got the phase angle wrong, arriving at Kerbin when it was precisely on the opposite side of the sun. You can get a single-stage Laythe return under 10 tonnes without refuelling (antbin was the first to do it).

[Vector]

Great craft, but how much does it weigh?

Orange tank (36t)

Two cockpits 1t x 2

Skipper engine 4t

Jet engines 1.2t x 7

Landing gear 0.5t x 3

Intakes 0.011t x 64

Delta wings 0.07t x 12

... and I stopped counting

Total is at least 36 + 2 + 4 + 8.4 + 1.5 + 0.7 + 0.84 = 53.44 tons

Also I could have gotten "hard mode" by circumnavigating at least once, but I wasn't paying attention and ejected before the first full orbit.

[Cboehme]

Orange tank (36t)

Two cockpits 1t x 2

Skipper engine 4t

Jet engines 1.2t x 7

Landing gear 0.5t x 3

Intakes 0.011t x 64

Delta wings 0.07t x 12

... and I stopped counting

Total is at least 36 + 2 + 4 + 8.4 + 1.5 + 0.7 + 0.84 = 53.44 tons

Also I could have gotten "hard mode" by circumnavigating at least once, but I wasn't paying attention and ejected before the first full orbit.

okay. thx for the weight.

[Moar Boosters]

I don't understand the purpose of this challenge. What makes it a "plane of death?"

I've built a long range SSTO which can go all the way out to Eelloo, but it's got 150 units of mono-propellant, and just 1 cockpit, so I guess it's not eligible as a spaceplane of death?