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RikTelner

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I crashed on the Mun already, I wanted to land on Mun using this homemade ship. With forever happy Jebediah, and his brothers Bob and Bill.

http://www.speedyshare.com/njGTB/Crash-no-924.craft (Click on the name)

Mission would succeed when I had actually one more Jumbo (orange) tank, but this could destroy the scale between active thrust and mass of the ship.

Could somebody please download it, analyse it and eventually send me back with explaination why its bad?

Thanks already.

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Is there a way how to download it without installing their download manager? I don't want that piece of software in my PC.

You don't need that download manager, just click on the file name link...its click-able, and downloadable.

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I crashed on the Mun already, I wanted to land on Mun using this homemade ship. With forever happy Jebediah, and his brothers Bob and Bill.

http://www.speedyshare.com/njGTB/Crash-no-924.craft (Click on the name)

Mission would succeed when I had actually one more Jumbo (orange) tank, but this could destroy the scale between active thrust and mass of the ship.

Could somebody please download it, analyse it and eventually send me back with explaination why its bad?

Thanks already.

Ok, Analysing...

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Ok, do you want me to fix it for you? or just point out the problem and you fix it by yourself? because base on your request, you just say send you explanation.

Actually please fix. Because when I am trying to fix it I am ******* it up, so if you could, could you fix it?

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You don't need that download manager, just click on the file name link...its click-able, and downloadable.

Ah, thanks, I see it now. What looked like the page title is actually direct download link. I'll be wiser next time.

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Okay, Sirine is making better ship for you so just a few comments from me.

You don't need air intakes if you don't use jet engines.

Also the number of Canards is a bit excessive. If you want to use them, you should put them below center of mass or they may make your ship unstable.

It may be good idea to strut the two jumbo tanks together a bit

When using radial decouplers, you need to put the part on top of that decoupler. The way you have it set there are decouplers but nothing is attached to them and they just clip inside the part attached directly to the upper stage part. That's why they don't fall off.

I don't see any landing stage there, what's above that last decoupler does not seem to have any vertical thrust. Are you planning to land from freefall? Mun has no atmosphere so the chute won't help you.

It might be better to use MK1-2 command pod (circular) than Mk3 Cockpit (for planes) as that would not cause parts magically flying around. Also you might take care to not block the hatch, with your design your crew cannot go on EVA.

Parts used between the chute and the cockpit are not strong enough to endure the impact when the chute opens (in Kerbin atmosphere). The cockpit then freefalls from 500 m. Again some struts might save the day, or putting the torque and monopropellant below the cabin.

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? 1.5 times more engines? I believe I retain all your design...no?

Well, there were... 4 rockets, each hold 4 tri-couplers that had 12-rockets, and each group of rockets held 4 bi-couplers, which results 8 rockets, and 2 solid rocket at each group. 12+8+2=22 rockets, 2 solid, 20 liquid.

Picture shows 12 engines, so its almost 1.5 times more. 1,4545454545 times more, to be specific.

Ah, wait, it shows the moment when you dropped another engines.

Nevermind.

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And the final question. Are you able to get on Mun with my original ship?

To be able to answer myself: I am bad at making ships/I am bad at timing and controlling ships.

Well, I'm kipping all your ship design...no?

So to answer your question, yes, your original ship CAN go to Mun, it just misplace sturt and some parts not fixed to the decoupler.

The staging however are good design.

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You can try my design if you wish.

I was bringing probes to Duna and Eve with it, although the capsule is a bit heavier than the probe. But it can get you to the Mun and back with sufficient reserve.

Thank you. I added it, but now I am busy with other things.

Sirine, your design added aswell.

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