The Versatility Marathon Challenge

[700NitroXpress]

Maybe it's an i5 thing then. In terms of performance power, you're not too far off from my PC so you shouldn't have such a drastic change in the part counts of ships you can handle.

[Hodo]

Maybe it's an i5 thing then. In terms of performance power, you're not too far off from my PC so you shouldn't have such a drastic change in the part counts of ships you can handle.

I doubt its the i5, I can run Planetside 2 at near max settings at a steady 60FPS in the thickest battles since the performance update. Even before I was getting a steady 30-40FPS.

[700NitroXpress]

I doubt its the i5, I can run Planetside 2 at near max settings at a steady 60FPS in the thickest battles since the performance update. Even before I was getting a steady 30-40FPS.

Yeah, but Planetside 2 is running on a different game engine and most of the stress is GPU related. Every model in that game is more or less one part so the physics calculations are easy. KSP is very different and Unity is very different from the Planetside 2 engine.

One tank in Planetside 2 is about the same as a 6 part rocket in KSP.

[Hodo]

Yeah, but Planetside 2 is running on a different game engine and most of the stress is GPU related. Every model in that game is more or less one part so the physics calculations are easy. KSP is very different and Unity is very different from the Planetside 2 engine.

One tank in Planetside 2 is about the same as a 4 part rocket in KSP.

True, but PS2 also runs a physics engine. But PS2s game engine utilizes all 4 cores of the processor not just one and lets you use the GPU to run physics if needed.

But that has nothing to do with the challenge.

[Sirine]

Shuttle 1 landed.

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Shuttle 2 landed.

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[700NitroXpress]

Shuttle 1 landed.

Shuttle 2 landed.

Yay 70 points

Is everything ready for you to do the mission or do you still have to construct some things?

Edited December 1, 2013 by 700NitroXpress

[Hodo]

Yay 70 points

Is everything ready for you to do the mission or do you still have to construct some things?

Is he still setting up for the Eve mission or is he on the third mission?

I am also wondering what my abysmal score is from the Eve mission. I would be surprised if it broke 100.

[Sirine]

Yay 70 points

Is everything ready for you to do the mission or do you still have to construct some things?

1) Replace the bug "interplanetary-traveling-module".

2) Refuel the Eve-Lifter.

3) Attach them together.

4) Send to Eve.

Current Status:- http://www./view/qy235hfp6aj1lbt/persistent.sfs

Edited December 1, 2013 by Sirine

[700NitroXpress]

I am also wondering what my abysmal score is from the Eve mission. I would be surprised if it broke 100.

Did you add up everything for your launches and any additional bonus points that you can apply for?

I need a mission debrief from you so I can calculate it.

I think you're the only one that's completed the Eve mission so far. I'm launching mine tomorrow. It looks like Sirine is at the same point as me, doing some last minute launches and setup and then we're off to Eve and Gilly.

Edited December 1, 2013 by 700NitroXpress

[ThreeMartiniLaunch]

I got a bit behind schedule. Still working on the Eve mission. Just have to return.

Then edit through several hours of video. Many hours.

Then voice over the video. Pretty fast and fun.

Then render the video. Couple hours

Then post the video. A few hours.

BTW: I have an AMD FX 6100 six core processor, 3.4GHz and 8GB RAM.

Things start getting bad around 400 parts. Problem is, MechJeb counts as 100 parts. I may have to leave him home.

TML

[700NitroXpress]

I got a bit behind schedule. Still working on the Eve mission. Just have to return.

BTW: I have an AMD FX 6100 six core processor, 3.4GHz and 8GB RAM.

Things start getting bad around 400 parts. Problem is, MechJeb counts as 100 parts. I may have to leave him home.

TML

That's not so bad, I haven't even departed yet.

AMD processors work a little differently than intel processors as far as the core architecture goes and the support software that they use, but 400 parts isn't bad.

I generally try to keep my craft under 1400 parts because then the VAB starts lagging out. The Eve escape pod that I launched was 1100 parts on the launchpad. My current vessel in space is around 730 parts combined.

Intel i7 3820 3.8 ghz quad core, 32 gb RAM, EVGA GTX 690 4gb

Waiting to see the video!

[700NitroXpress]

Just got my science package into orbit and docked with the rest of the ship. Almost ready for departure, just have to send up some more fuel and we're off to Eve!

4 Kerbal science team is on board and ready.

Got the first fuel tank attached on the inside, one more to go.

Got the second fuel tank attached on the inside, ship ready for departure to Eve.

Edited December 2, 2013 by 700NitroXpress

[Sirine]

Send the fixed-interplanetry-module via NASA-Style launcher, and dock with Eve-lifting units. Refuel a bit, and re-dock for the correct position.

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[Hodo]

Did you add up everything for your launches and any additional bonus points that you can apply for?

I need a mission debrief from you so I can calculate it.

I think you're the only one that's completed the Eve mission so far. I'm launching mine tomorrow. It looks like Sirine is at the same point as me, doing some last minute launches and setup and then we're off to Eve and Gilly.

Well here is a simple write up on the mission.

The XI-2 was already in orbit around Kerbin sitting at an orbit of 100km x 100km, or for me standard parking orbit. It had just refueled at KerSta-2, my space station that sits at a 100km x 100km orbit for any mission outside of the Kerbin sphere.

The mission package had a critical fault with the landing module and was forced to be returned to KSC for testing. (the lander was eaten by the krakken) But the XI-2 continued on its mission to Eve with the probe attached.

After a 3hr and change deceleration burn into Eve, the XI-2 and crew arrived into a aerobraking orbit of Eve.

After the orbit was stabilized at 108km x 110km north to south, the crew of the XI-2 proceeded to deploy the probe down to the surface of the planet near the coordinates of the energy readings. A second ship arrived a few days after the XI-2 to provide additional communications coverage and reduce the signal delay on the probe, but unfortunately the XI-3 had a illness that claimed one of the crew. (Bug caused me to lose a second lander and another crewman, but he wasn't killed he just went back to the KSC)

The probe was dropped and worked perfectly on decent, but unfortunately like all missions there was a glitch in the software. The flight computer failed to deploy the landing gear so the probe landed on its side, undamaged but on its side. And with the 74 second signal delay from Kerbin to Eve it was impossible to attempt to right it.

The XI-2 and XI-3 returned to Kerbin as soon as the launch window opened up. And returned several months later performing another aerobraking maneuver to achieve orbit again. The XI-3 having served its use was set to burn up in atmosphere, the crew abandoned it and used a crew shuttle to come home. (had nothing to do with the mission but I am sure it was being asked)

(I just realized I have no pictures of that. Its not like it has gone anywhere it is still in orbit around Kerbin.)

There was one debris generated and it was a decoupler. The probe landed close to those coordinates but because I do not use Mechjeb and had to manually program in the flight plan and controls 15minutes before the actual event I am just happy as peaches that it landed on that island at all.

[700NitroXpress]

Alright then Hodo lets see here...

You didn't go to Gilly and landers were eaten by a Kraken.

Mission option 1 was your target for completion, but going to Gilly is still part of the mission.

Mission Option 1 completion minus points for not going to Gilly = 200 points.

Mass of the science package is less than 15 tons = -10 points

1 piece of space debris = -5 points

Subtotal = 185 points

I need to know if you brought additional Kerbals on the mission other than the standard 2

Did you use jet engines to lift anything into orbit?

Did you detach anything other than mission critical gear?

Did you use NASA launchers to get things into orbit?

Did you use an SSTO to get things into orbit?

Go through the bonus points section and see if any of those apply to you for this mission and then I can get the grand total.

[Sirine]

Refuel no.2

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Refuel no.3 (Almost...collide with Eve-lifter... missing by 1 meter....

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Eve-Lifter fully fuel.. Now rendezvous with core-craft.

Persistent file :- http://www./view/840iyq3nhaft2fq/persistent.sfs

Edited December 2, 2013 by Sirine

[Sirine]

Rendezvous done. Core-Craft assembly completed.

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De-orbit other craft.

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Next:- Refuel Core-craft RCS gas, and, realign the angle of crafts attached.

Persistent file: http://www./view/a7wjdu6x8p7t5ih/persistent.sfs

Edited December 2, 2013 by Sirine

[Death Engineering]

First Mission Complete (barely)

After completing the mission and making it gracefully back to LKO, I only then realized it clearly says "Minmus first". I did Mun first. The subsequent attempt was fraught with navigation problems that almost had me ejecting past Minmus into Kerbol orbit. In the end, had to sacrifice points for multiple landings in order to recover the mission.

The Munar satellites were deployed first, only after barely leaving LKO. After a gravity assist pass 41km over the Mun, the VIC-20 (core craft) and VCM1 lander were on course for a Minmus encounter. The problems began when switching to the probes to get them into correct alignment. For some reason the Minmus encounter happened much earlier than expected and it coasted well past Minmus Pe. After a long burn, orbit around Minmus was set up at 20km near the equator. However, the extra fuel burned in the Minmus near-flyby recovery meant only a single Minmus landing instead of the three planned. In keeping with debris management, the now-unneeded drop tanks were disposed on Minmus. The satellite mounting structure was also dropped onto Minmus.

Less than 2 days later, the Mun was in the right position and after a short burn from Minmus, orbit around the Mun was established (slightly higher at 30km). The landing site was flat and the landing team posed for one last pic before docking again with the VIC. Once the crew was back aboard the VIC, one pilot flew the LM to a Munar impact trajectory then EVA'd back to the VIC. After leaving Munar orbit, went out to 13000 km to correct inclination before aerocapture back to LKO. By the time a 75km parking orbit was established, less than 3% fuel was remaining. Much too close for a mission around the neighborhood...

The crew was returned to Kerbin by a "Big Gemini" 7 crew LKO taxi. All lifters and the Big G were developed for the Apollo Applications Project challenge. The main lifter is based on the Saturn 5 with two 5-engine stages to LKO. The Big G lifter is based on the Saturn 1B with an 8 engine first stage and single engine second stage to LKO.

Long EVA back from LM

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Summary:

• 2 satellites deployed around Mun
  
• 2 satellites deployed around Minmus
  
• 4 crew landed on Minmus
  
• 1 rover deployed on Minmus
  
• 4 crew landed on Mun
  

Scoring:

Mission:

• Mission complete with two satellites deployed and one landing per moon without refueling +150
  
• One satellite deployed on both equatorial and polar orbits for Minmus +10
  
• One satellite deployed on both equatorial and polar orbits for Mun +10
  
• More than one Kerbal lands on a moon 5 *4 Kerbals *2 landings = +40
  
• Deploy a ground communications unit attached to a rover body +10
  

Points that never change:

• Littering the system - You left space junk floating around in space = -5
  
• Eat your vegetables - Launch a craft or attachment into orbit without asparagus staging = +5 points
  
• Bring the Gang along for the ride - For each additional Kerbal brought on a mission and returned to Kerban Orbit after the mission is complete (All Kerbals must be in a pod, external command seats not allowed) = 10 *4 = +40
  

Total: 260

Edited December 2, 2013 by Death Engineering
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[700NitroXpress]

First Mission Complete (barely)

Nicely done, the NASA launch points don't apply for Mission 01, but it looks like you left them out. Nice designs on the NASA rockets, well done there.

All your points look added up correctly too, so please continue to do this mission summary for all missions as this was really easy for me to verify.

Edit: found an error, this is partly due to a typo in the points. For each additional kerbal landed on a moon is +5. So if 4 kerbals land, you only get points for 3 of them because 1 is excluded as he is required.

So the new total is 250

Edit 2: Found another error, this one is for additional points that weren't calculated. Since you used NASA rockets, I don't think you used jet engines so that's +5

So new total is now 255

Edited December 2, 2013 by 700NitroXpress

[Sirine]

Craft fully refuel, ready to depart to Eve.

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Edited December 2, 2013 by Sirine

[700NitroXpress]

Sirine, I'm getting 2 different totals now for your original mission 01 score and what you just posted...

But on your original score post, I added it up again and got the same value.

Edited December 2, 2013 by 700NitroXpress

[Hodo]

Alright then Hodo lets see here...

You didn't go to Gilly and landers were eaten by a Kraken.

Mission option 1 was your target for completion, but going to Gilly is still part of the mission.

Mission Option 1 completion minus points for not going to Gilly = 200 points.

Mass of the science package is less than 15 tons = -10 points

1 piece of space debris = -5 points

Subtotal = 185 points

I need to know if you brought additional Kerbals on the mission other than the standard 2

Did you use jet engines to lift anything into orbit?

Did you detach anything other than mission critical gear?

Did you use NASA launchers to get things into orbit?

Did you use an SSTO to get things into orbit?

Go through the bonus points section and see if any of those apply to you for this mission and then I can get the grand total.

I didn't bring any additional kerbals along on the mission, I had a separate craft that went along with the XI-2 to try and act as a mobile command station in Eve orbit. But that failed because I lost a kerbal due to the Kracken, but there were 5 kerbals in the other craft that also returned to Kerbin. But I am not going to ask that they be scored. I didn't use a SSTO to get anything to orbit or a NASA launcher. I also didn't detach anything other than the mission critical gear.

So I think the only thing I can claim is, I didn't detach anything other than the mission critical gear.

But I am pleased with that score. It's not great but not bad considering the nightmare that I had with that landing.

[700NitroXpress]

I didn't bring any additional kerbals along on the mission, I had a separate craft that went along with the XI-2 to try and act as a mobile command station in Eve orbit. But that failed because I lost a kerbal due to the Kracken, but there were 5 kerbals in the other craft that also returned to Kerbin. But I am not going to ask that they be scored. I didn't use a SSTO to get anything to orbit or a NASA launcher. I also didn't detach anything other than the mission critical gear.

So I think the only thing I can claim is, I didn't detach anything other than the mission critical gear.

But I am pleased with that score. It's not great but not bad considering the nightmare that I had with that landing.

Ok so the total then would be 185 + 25 = 210

[Sirine]

I've post my progress in the Mission Report Thread, Kindly follow the following link for detail.

Eve Misison Report. Live update with persistent file along the way.

[Death Engineering]

Nicely done, the NASA launch points don't apply for Mission 01, but it looks like you left them out. Nice designs on the NASA rockets, well done there.

All your points look added up correctly too, so please continue to do this mission summary for all missions as this was really easy for me to verify.

Edit: found an error, this is partly due to a typo in the points. For each additional kerbal landed on a moon is +5. So if 4 kerbals land, you only get points for 3 of them because 1 is excluded as he is required.

So the new total is 250

Edit 2: Found another error, this one is for additional points that weren't calculated. Since you used NASA rockets, I don't think you used jet engines so that's +5

So new total is now 255

Thanks for fixing my totals! The way you added the additional Kerbals here makes more sense than your earlier reply of 20 points for 4 per landing. And yep, no jet engines.

All lifters will be NASA style and the ones seen in 01, but I may need to use my 'Konstellation' challenge's 'Ares V' style (still NASA.. can't blame them if the program got cancelled lol).

Q: Can I move to a new save file for this challenge moving forward?

Edited December 2, 2013 by Death Engineering
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