[News] Energia - reborn??

[nothke]

Just saw on Roscosmos fb page:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=729618770399364&set=a.125348644159716.17077.125342950826952&type=1&theater

Russia mulls creation of new super-heavy carrier rocket

"On the 25th anniversary of the historic flight of the Soviet space shuttle Buran, Russia's Roscosmos space agency has formed a working group to prepare "within weeks" a roadmap for the revival of the Energia super-heavy booster rocket."

http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/171790/

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Russia_starts_ambitious_super_heavy_space_rocket_project_999.html

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/new-heavy-lift-rocket-planned/488540.html

Is this legit? Or did they just get nostalgic looking at old photos?

Russia has started a lot of spacecraft/rocket projects in last 10 years and didn't finish almost any (except Angara), neither can we see much progress in the ongoing projects

Edited November 19, 2013 by nothke

[Requiem762]

If it's true then falcon heavy is gonna have some big competition

[Kryten]

There's been no selection of an actual rocket for the program, but an outright revival of Energiya is not on the cards-too much of the tooling has been destroyed for it to be worthwhile. One of the proposals is for effectively a repackaged energiya, but it has very little chance of being selected.

[K^2]

Anything based off Energia would be absolutely awesome. But I'd stay on the skeptic side until they actually build something. You really can't trust most of the claims coming from Russian aerospace these days.

[nothke]

Btw, a really good and concise article about Buran, as well as nice photos of details Shuttle vs Buran:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/space/rockets/did-the-soviets-actually-build-a-better-space-shuttle-16176311?click=pm_latest

Edited November 20, 2013 by nothke

[Shuttle]

http://www.vz.ru/news/2013/11/21/660703.html

Þý þтüõчðû, чтþ ú 2030 óþôу ñуôõт ÑÂþ÷ôðòðтьÑÂÑ 130-тþýýыù ýþÑÂøтõûь.

130-ton launcher by 2030.

[Simon Ross]

Rather like the SLS, what would you actually use a 130 ton launcher for ?

Having the capability is great, but with no manned moon or Mars missions planned it is massively overpowered. Only possible mission I can envisage getting a green light needing that kind of payload capability would be a future Mars sample return probe

[Nibb31]

The Russians do have interplanetary plans, with OPSEK and PPTS projects. A heavy-launcher would be useful for larger OPSEK modules and propulsion systems.

[SUJETO]

i think not,,, there have a other interesting and stopped project, a rehusable SC a fusion of soyuz mix lifting body.

[xenomorph555]

When I read the title this popped up in my head...

http://soundfxnow.com/sound-fx/dramatic-chipmunk/

[xenomorph555]

As for the rocket, this is good news they shouldn't have gotten rid of it, the power of the saturn v in half the size and twice the badassatude (is that a word )!

[Northstar1989]

Just saw on Roscosmos fb page:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=729618770399364&set=a.125348644159716.17077.125342950826952&type=1&theater

Russia mulls creation of new super-heavy carrier rocket

"On the 25th anniversary of the historic flight of the Soviet space shuttle Buran, Russia's Roscosmos space agency has formed a working group to prepare "within weeks" a roadmap for the revival of the Energia super-heavy booster rocket."

http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/171790/

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Russia_starts_ambitious_super_heavy_space_rocket_project_999.html

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/new-heavy-lift-rocket-planned/488540.html

Is this legit? Or did they just get nostalgic looking at old photos?

Russia has started a lot of spacecraft/rocket projects in last 10 years and didn't finish almost any (except Angara), neither can we see much progress in the ongoing projects

This *IS* legit, and it might actually happen. Russia's economy is on the rebound due to lucrative oil exports...

Regards,

Northstar

[SUJETO]

The real brutal rockets only justify brutal finance programs,,, that expense will be covered because the last ENERGIA lost heavy quantities of money and 18 years of develop of the program when was cancelled.

Technically all go to the trash... is a sad history post 1989, the soviets discovered the shuttle is not cheap form to put thing in the space.