Huojin Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Yet again the huge "Show off your awesome KSP pictures!" thread has been moved out of the General forum, and plenty of people, myself included, think it should have stayed here.So here we are, a thread to call for it to be moved back here, where it is more active and more easily seen and enjoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Aramchek_ Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 YES! I have no idea at all why it was moved to a section of the forum that more or less meant "death" for the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalfunctionM1Ke Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 YES! I have no idea at all why it was moved to a section of the forum that more or less meant "death" for the thread.I absolutely agree.... Also there need to be fewer subsection in this Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFjord Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Agree, general forums are where new players start looking for info. That thread contains so much awesomeness, it is the best motivation to deep digger into the game.Been there just two month ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillHop Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Yes please. I never ever remember to check it and when I do there are hardly any new pictures anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Destroyer Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I tend to check it when it's in here, but not down in that... deep hole *shudders*That's because most experienced people, know it's there, but all the newbies don't know it exists. It's also just more "common' for people to view it in GD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xacktar Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Agreed. Kinda confusing why it was moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyAgent007 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Maybe just start a new thread of the same kind, it was getting rather big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldierHair Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 It was moved 3 times already and it always came back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czokletmuss Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 YES! I have no idea at all why it was moved to a section of the forum that more or less meant "death" for the thread.I tend to check it when it's in here, but not down in that... deep hole *shudders*What's wrong with Fan Works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex_NL Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Why was it moved to Fan Works? Probably because it belongs in Fan Works!If someone would start a similar topic, lets say with video's, in the general forum it would be moved to Fan Works within one or two days. Guaranteed! Why should "Show off your awesome KSP pictures!" be an exception to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Aramchek_ Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Because "fan works" is a dark alley on the site, forums suffer when fragmented too much.It appeals to someones ocd I'm sure, but GD is where everyone is.Apparently the mods don't care what people think though seeing as this thread was also moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Tash Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 And now it's even worse, this poll was moved to the Forum Forum section where not even 1% of people read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowsdower Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hey, everyone.The thread in question was moved during a small cleanup of the top of the General section. We feel that putting that thread into the more appropriate Fan Works section will encourage everyone to venture in there to both view and share their excellent creations more frequently. If things take a big dip, well, that can change, but at the moment, that's where the thread resides.As for this thread, this section was more appropriate for it. Section cleanup has been a bit of a discussion as of late, so if you have any suggestions for it, please turn that into a separate thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extemporary Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 ...If things take a big dip, well, that can change, but at the moment, that's where the thread resides...As I pointed out in the screenshot thread itself, it went from two new pages (at least) per day, to going more than 24 hours at a time without a single post. Activity in that thread has absolutely plummeted. I don't think it's getting people to go to Fan Works, I think it's getting people to STOP going to that thread. General may not technically be the proper place, but I think that it's far better than Fan Works, where the thread is deserted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FEichinger Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 [...]Apparently the mods don't care what people think though seeing as this thread was also moved.Please don't make assumptions like that.As I pointed out in the screenshot thread itself, it went from two new pages (at least) per day, to going more than 24 hours at a time without a single post. Activity in that thread has absolutely plummeted. I don't think it's getting people to go to Fan Works, I think it's getting people to STOP going to that thread. General may not technically be the proper place, but I think that it's far better than Fan Works, where the thread is deserted.Give it some time, will ya. Once people know where to find it, it should get back quite some traction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Aramchek_ Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Please don't make assumptions like that.Give it some time, will ya. Once people know where to find it, it should get back quite some traction.It probably won't though, I have seen this on multiple forums over the years, GD or equivalent is always where threads like that thrive, when moved away from the "main thoroughfare" they tend not to do so well.Keeping things mostly in one place is almost invariably better to the end user and means more traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCanadianVendingMachine Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Why not make a thread that links to the thread, in GD stickied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexx32 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Because one of the reasons it was moved was that there are too many damn stickies in GD already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lajoswinkler Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'm not sure. If the transfer was to lower the number of posts people make, then I agree with the admins' decision. People are spamming on that thread, putting entire missions to show off even if they aren't doing anything remotely interesting.The thread has lots its meaning. Those aren't awesome pictures, those are... pictures. Their total quality is very low.I wanted to make a difference and opened the thread about user-made funny KSP stuff, but so far, zero replies, and this monstrosity of a thread grows like a tumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakuzi Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) Apparently the mods don't care what people think though seeing as this thread was also moved.Please don't make assumptions like that.It's quite a fair assumption based on current forum moderation. If this move would've purely been for 'cleanup purposes' as we've been told, surely the countless actual non-GD threads in General Discussion would've been moved even earlier (just to name a few, currently on the first page of GD):- what is the point of rovers on moons/planet with low gravity? [14-01-14, should be in Questions and Tutorials]- The only thing thing that I care to see in .24 [02-01-14, should be in Suggestions and Development]- CPU Performance Database [27-07-13, should be in Development and Support]- Is asparagus the best staging system? [09-05-13, should be in Questions and Tutorials]So, in my humble opinion, the statement like _Aramchek_ made is not quite as bonkers as you seem to be suggesting.If the mods would truly like to hear what the opinions are, I'm certain they would have left this thread in the General Discussion instead of instantly moving it to the crevasses of the KSP forum.Give it some time, will ya. Once people know where to find it, it should get back quite some traction.Another assumption Since ~90% of voters want the Awesome Pictures thread in General Discussion, why not just move it back??? Edited January 16, 2014 by Yakuzi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexx32 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 First thread, yeah, probably. Second thread, mmmh, maybe. Third thread, definitely not. It's discussing KSP's performance on different machines, not its development; it's fine where it is. The final one is almost certainly going to be a matter of opinion and should be discussed, as it doesn't have a clear definitive answer.We move what we can when we can. We're not machines, we don't always catch everything, and not everything is very clear-cut; it is not uncommon for us to discuss whether or not something should be moved for a bit before actually moving it. If you see something you think needs moving, go hit the Report Post button on the OP and say so. That's one of many reasons why it's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Aramchek_ Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 But the thing is, the community drives the forum, at some point people either accept that, or their community dries up.Happens all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexx32 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 That doesn't mean a couple of members of the community have veto rights over the administration of the forums. The forum has over 5000 active members. A few do not speak for the opinions of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FEichinger Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Alright, want to hear my personal opinion? We have way too many subforums. Yes. I've been saying this for months and I personally really don't like the "vicious stance against threads in a slightly wrong place" that sometimes shines through. Why? Well, because even we sometimes just don't know where a thread would be best suited. Way too many forums with quite some overlap on the one hand and huge gaps on the other between these forums.That does not, however, mean we should dump everything into KSPGen. Just because people can't be arsed to leave KSPGen for a bit doesn't mean we should just kill everything else and just have one huge dump. Threads go where they belong, even if "where they belong" is utterly nonsensical because of the mess that has been created - but we can, at a later point (once we have a better solution to this all), change the mess and tidy it up. We can't really do that when KSPGen is essentially the only forum ever with absolutely everything posted in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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