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If gravioli is produced by matter, as the same are bosons, and photons, then there is a chance that aniti-matter produces anti-photons, anti-bosons, and two important things for positive gravioli- anti-mass (negative mass), and anti-gravity, which would theoretically be simply pushed away by any gravity. Quantum physics was the thing that i never understood, but i noticed, about a year ago, that most of philosophical things i say, are connected with quantum physics. But ok- if negative gravioli exists,then the positive gravioli can exist, but with 0,01% chance of- but we all know that universe is HUGE so there must be probably a place where conditions are perfect (think- antimatter galaxy), and probably positive gravioli also exists, and in such place the chance of antigravity rises up to 5%, and if we see that antimatter, dark matter, dark energy, bosons all exist then why not positive gravioli? If we take such a way of thinking the probability of positive gravioli rises to 99,999999% chance. So what do you think?

I noticed one thing- i've got so much to say! So much theories are tumbling in my mind now! So much projects of antigravitomagnetical cars, hypothetical materials, bosons, gravioli, and antimatter! I love scientifical philosophy! And if kerbals develop an anti-gravity engine, they could simply have unlimited thrust at no-power (by no-power i mean with only electricity, but maybe even without it), can you imagine 10000000000000 kn of thrust? it could produce it!

Matter bends space, right? Specifically, it bends space in one direction due to it's interaction with space-time. Antimatter, having mass, appears to bend space-time the same way.

But when you bring the two together, you end up with MASSIVE amounts of released energy, right?

There is a theory (I cannot remember the name, but the theory stuck with me) that matter is space-time with enough energy wrapped inside it to hold the 'shape' of matter. Relative to space-time, the compression generates a 'mass' which is a property of the drag that the knotted space exerts on the space around it.

Antimatter is theorized to be a bend in space-time, just like matter, with energy holding it in place, but (and here's the good part)-

the bend is opposite in every position to that of matter.

(In all dimensions, it points in the opposite direction)

So when matter and antimatter come together, they "cancel out" and the pent-up energy is released, as per E=mc^2.

Just a thought.

OK, quick post BEFORE I read Mekan1k's post (Looks good!:) )

Technically there can't be such things as anti-gravitons, but there is something that is technically negative mass. When we measure 'zero' energy in the universe it isn't actually zero. There is a seething mass of energy present everywhere called the quantum foam (or zero point energy) that is responsible for some wierd stuff (spontaneous creation/destruction of matter/anti-matter pairs being one). If you close an area of space off, limiting it's volume, the frequencies of energy are limited to wavelengths of 4x the distance of seperation. This means that not all of the 'zero' level energy can exist, so we actually have, as we measure it, negative energy. As far as I know it's a bit of a stretch to really call it negative energy, but it is a real phenomenon.

Thus if you can have negative energy, you can have negative mass, via Einstein. :) Anti-gravitons? As I said, so far as I know not possible, but... Who knows?

Oh, and Calkhi? Black holes definitely have mass. Only the information about what went in is lost as matter goes inside the event horizon... and some recent theories are even suggesting that isn't quite true either. It seems that event horizons might (stressing the might here) not be as fixed as we thought.

Check this out, and do some research- we know that event-horizons are not fixed... Merely very difficult to effect.

https://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/objects/heapow/archive/compact_objects/spinning_bh_chandra.html

An wait, i see you have RLA stockalike etc. Do they work on 0.23?

Yup. They do.

Finally got the chance to read the next installment. Great stuff Mekan1k! Crumple zones for rockets! *lol*

I liked that too- and I have a feeling this might be a useful feature later.

WE are proud to represent our new hypothetical particles collector (gravioli, dark matter, and bosons)- The Theoretor! It uses special detectros to determine the particle, puts it to a sorting machine which then puts each particle to it's own tank. It's also a device that we created to see if we can get at least one postivie gravioli particle (it really needs to be shorter- maybe NGP and PGP?), and understand the universe.

Here it is-

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and from the up:

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download:

http://www./view/p87i1k5trxec9k9/Theoretor.craft

I like it!

good chapter, eager for more.

There will be more... This weekend.

Ok, so, I recall a very important tidbit of information I mentioned, you know, the whole "this post is total BS and I know it" thing.

No to be insulting or anything, but often, when I mention that I know that I'm wrong by the laws of physics, and proven quantum physics, it often is ignored.(I have no idea why, though.) That being said, once I get home from this blasted place of "education" I am in, I will proceed to upload some pictures and a few craft files.

That being said, ever had a kerbal in interplanetary space, no Delta/V to spare, and a four year wait period for a return burn?

Don't ask, I hate explaining failures.

Yup. I try rescue missions/destruction missions to deal with such problems. That being said, you could do a study on the long-term effects of microgravity on kerbals!

(Or vacuum decay of the corpse if your kerbalnaught does not have enough food...)

Quick question, do you use extraplanetary launchpads?

and for that matter, orbital construction?

I've got an idea for a Minmus surface base. The only thing missing is the defence towers for it.

Yup! Extraplanatary launchpads is on my mod list, although I don't use most of the components in the mod. (infinite fuel is active for ship spawning) Mostly because I try to keep part counts down, with maximum effect.

I have the orbital construction component, the runway, and the ship/launchpad (modified for probe-drive of course).

Von-neuman machines are a favorite subject of mine, and I love the things.

That said, here is my concept for the Dark Foundry.

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Specs: 1x SM 2meter Reactor, 4x large Casmir Sails, and Robotic core.

And yes, it can build any ship as long as that ship fits inside the bay there.

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Oooh. Gravioli things. Screw the rules, it glows!

I know, right?

But will kerbal space center send it into space? The Theoretor.

Not THIS ksc...

Still accepting companies?

Yup- although all the new ones will be ignorant of the capabilities of the SWARM to some degree....

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? THIS ksc? what do you mean?

Ah... I have said too much...

Let's just say that when Kerbals start messing around with subatomic particles on a large scale.... Reality starts wearing a little thin.

EDIT: fixed a spelling mistake. They happen a lot when I am using my iPad to post....

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I believe he means Kerbals.

Yes I did mean Kerbals. iPad makes very odd spelling corrections just as I hit post.

You use planet factory? ***** just got real...

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And now, onto chapter - wait, I will let the story tell itself.

Chapter 2- Minimum Safe Distance

Kirlak: Jeb, I have been around for quite some time.

Jeb: You are older than me.

Kirlak: And I have flown a couple test flights myself- mostly aircraft, but they were still test-flights.

Jeb: Okay?

Kirlak: But never before have I been sitting in a rocket that looked THIS UGLY.

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Kirlak: It looks like a brick!

Jeb: It's ascent speed is slow enough that this should not be an issue.

Kirlak: Aerodynamicly-

Jeb: The intake at the front is closed- we will not have any problems on ascent.

Kirlak: There are no safty devices!

Jeb: We have seatbelts.

Kirlak: You know what I mean! Nothing to save us if anything goes wrong before we reach orbit!

Jeb: You did not need to come with me.

Kirlak: I had to! This is singularly the most expensive vehicle we have- I want to fly in it.

Jeb: You asked for it- not me.

Kirlak: I.... Ok. I concede.

Jeb: Excellent! B9k- are we ready for liftoff?

B9k: All components are green Jeb- Guidance fins are working in all degrees of motion, and all test-pulses for the engines are at optimal.

MC: Same on this end- your ascent trajectory is clear, all flights are grounded, and we are watching.

Jeb: Great! Ready to fly, Kirlak?

Kirlak: I don't think I have ever flown when I have not been a pilot...

Jeb: It's much easier.

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B9k: If it makes you feel any better, Director, you can start the countdown.

Kirlak: It might... Ehm. 10. 9. 8. 7. 6. 5. 4.

Jeb: You missed 4-and-a-half.

Kirlak: Stop it. 3. 2. 1.

*RUMBLE*

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Kirlak: Mission control, we are away.

MC: Kodspeed, gentelmen.

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Kirlak: How fast does this accelerate?

Jeb: Until the first stage drops... Very slowly.

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Kirlak: Right... I am going to sleep. Wake me up when stuff starts happening.

Jeb: Ok.

*Thump*

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Kirlak: AHHH! What the?

Jeb: Just atmospheric terbulence.

B9k: It becomes less likely the higher we go.

Kirlak: Right.. Is there anything to really do to pass the time?

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Jeb: I brought a video game...

Kirlak: Give it here!

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Kirlak: ... Really?

Jeb: I love this game...

B9k: Beginning gravity turn....

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Kirlak: Jeb, I understand... BUGGER! I broke the Lunar Lander again! That this lab is for the study of gravioli particles, right?

Jeb: Yes.

Kirlak: How?

B9k: Decoupling first stage... Hang on.

*THUNK*

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Jeb: This station has two main experiment segments- the gravioli compression room, and the gravioli-collector (also known as the Theoreticator MK 2). The big scoop think you were complaining about is the collector.

Kirlak: Ah.

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Kirlak: So we will be doing actual science in orbit?

Jeb: Yup.

Kirlak: Sweet.

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ten minutes later

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B9k: Circularizing...

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Jeb: Since when does the Soviet Union get to Luna first in Multiplayer?

Kirlak: Since I started playing.

Jeb: Not if my space-based defense grid has anything to say about it....

B9k: I know no-one is listing to me, but I am still flying this ship.

MC: We are listing.

B9k: Thanks. Orienting for ascent burn to 300 km.

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B9k: Stage 2 is out of fuel. Decoupling...

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Kirlak: NOOO! My Lunar mission!

Jeb: Take that!

Kirlak: That mission was nuclear powered. Good luck cleaning up when I land on your country Jeb.

Jeb: I did not see that coming.

MC: :huh:

B9k: Their game is getting very intense.

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B9k: Burning for orbit.

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B9k: Burn complete. Turning for circularization at apiostaisis.

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Jeb: We will keep ourselves buisy.

Kirlak: And there go my submarines. Stop the orbital bombardment!

Jeb: Nope. :P

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30 minutes later.

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B9k: Burning to circularize..

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B9k: Gentlemen, we are now at 300 km.

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Jeb: Great! Decouple the ascent motor B9k.

B9i: Decoupling...

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Kirlak: So now we are in orbit.

Jeb: Yup.

Kirlak: Time for science?

Jeb: Absolutely.

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Kirlak: What am I looking at?

Jeb: This is a camera view of the inside of our space-station's gravioli compression zone. Those two things are gravioli engines.

Kirlak: You put them in this? Why did we not use them for propulsion?

Jeb: The engines cancel each other out in this configuration... But they also create a highly-compressed space where the energy we pump into the engines will be able to coelesce into particles.

Kirlak: For what end?

Jeb: To find a true anti-gravioli.

Kirlak: Let's run this test.

Jeb: Powering up engines...

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Jeb: The power requirement keeps increasing when the fields are directly fighting each other...

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Jeb: It's not reaching maximum density!

Kirlak: Is this the best idea?

Jeb: I can't think of a better one! Increasing to 150% power!

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Jeb: We have maximum density! Space-time is flatining inside the containment chamber!

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Kirlak: Power is at 10%! Shut it down before life-support fails!

Jeb: Ah. We may need some help..

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Kirlak: Science has been recorded.

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Jeb: Did you need to say that?

Kirlak: Nope. Hey- there is a glowing button here.

Jeb: That's the gravioli-collecting Theoreticator- it has found a potential gravioli source.

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Jeb: Hey- that's the ascent-stage. I wonder why it has not de-orbited yet...

B9k: Communications indicates that nuclear material inside the RTG has melted through the parts of that stage which contained reaction-control circuits.

Jeb: Well then... Any other gravioli sources?

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Kirlak: That's the Mun Jeb.

Jeb: I know! We might want to begin planing a Mun Base to locate the heavy alternating source that I am detecting.

B9k: Moving to next source...

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Jeb: That's Minnimus.

B9k: It is emitting similar pulses to the Mun... The interference is causing a pattern.

Jeb: Can you put it on speakers?

B9k: It's a bit code, I think... SQAUADSQUADSQUADSQUAD. It seems to be repeating DSQUA.

Jeb: Does that mean anything to you?

Kirlak: Nope.

MC: Nope.

Jeb: Let's see if we can figure out anything before the other ship gets here.

Kirlak: What other ship?

Jeb: One we built with leftover parts from this mission. It's a 3-man SSTO.

MC: Launching in 5 Jeb.

Kirlak: ... It looks rediculous, doesn't it.

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Meanwhile, on Kerbin...

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Bill: Is this thing supposed to fly?

Bob: Jeb says it is, so it is.

Jim: Are you sure this is safe?

Bob: Of course it is. We used duct-tape!

Jim:... As a particle physicist, this is the least safe I have ever been. In my entire life.

Bill: Right. Have fun!

Jim: Nope.

Bob: B9k- is our vector ready?

B9k: Yes. Communicating with MC... Connection complete.

MC: Ready for launch?

Bill: This is the Kerbal Space Vessel PastaMachine, ready for liftoff.

Bob: I am never letting an AI name a ship.

Jim: How do you think I feel- I am strapped into a single-stage-to-orbit vessel called, of all things, PASTAMACHINE.

B9k: I like the name. Launching in 3. 2. 1.

*Vwummm..

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Jim: That's not so bad.

Bob: Accelerating....

Jim: I TAKE IT BACK.....

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Bob: I must admit- the large windows are a nice change-of-pace.

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Jim: The view from back here is less assuring.

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Bob: Beginning gravity turn...

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Jim: WE ARE UPSIDE DOWN! UPSIDE DOWN!!!!

Bill: Huh. Yeah, I guess we are.

Bob: How many hours of simulator time has he had?

Bill: Maybe 3 hours?

Jim: *Sick noises*

Bob: That better be in your bag!

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Jim: ....

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Jim: Are you doing this on purpose?

Bill: .....

Bob: ..... Doing what?

Jim: I will vomit again!

Bob: Fine. Rotating to rough ground orientation... Spoilsport.

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Bill: And... Done. Engine off- we are in free-fall orbit.

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Jim: Urg.... HIC!

Bill: Here's another bag- try to get some rest. It's going to be a while before we can dock with the gravioli test-lab.

Jim: Why is it so far out?

MC: Are you in orbit?

Bill: Yup. Waiting for rendezvous position with station now.

MC: Good.

Bob: The station needs to be at least 200 km from the surface, so in the event of a space-time rip we don't have massive environmental damage.

Jim: Such as?

Bob: Such as the atmosphere exploding off, the crust liquifying, and the planet cracking like some cheap jawbreaker.

Jim: So... Minimum safe distance then?

Bob: Yep. Now grab some sleep.

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2 hours later.

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Bob: Burn complete. Jim did not even notice that one!

Bill: He is exhausted. Remember your first time in microgravity?

Bob: How can I ever?

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FLASHBACK TIME!

(To chapter 7 of the first story)

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/28970-AAR-Development-A-Journey-to-space?p=423451&viewfull=1#post423451

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Jeb: I cannot stand this anymore. Bob- place your flight-suit in the airlock, and then seal yourself in the bathroom.

Bob:? What?

Jeb: Mission Control, I can see the station, but I cannot stand the smell. I am venting the atmosphere.

Mission Control: Are you sure Jeb? The station should be able to handle the filtration....

Jeb: Not risking it. We have a 3-week journey, and I do not want to risk the smell staying for that long. I am opening the airlock. Everyone in position?

Bill: Suit is sealed, and I am buckled in. Ready.

Bob: Sealed in the bathroom. Ready.

Jeb: Opening the airlock-now!

*FWSHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......................*

Jeb: Ok. We have no atmosphere. Coming up on station now...

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FLASHBACK OVER

(Thank you for your cooperation)

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Bill: The sunrise is always Beautiful up here..

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Bob: One day... I want to visit a station in Low Kerbol Orbit.

Bill: Like that will ever happen.

B9k: Station coming up...

Bill: Handing over docking to autopilot.

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B9k: Drifting to connection distance.

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Bill: I love having large windows.

Jim: Zzzzz... WHA?!!!

Bob: It's alright- don't thrash. The tab to release the sleep restraints in on the right.

Jim: URG!! It's getting tighter...

Bob: I meant left.

Jim: :mad:

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Bob: We are docking with the station now.

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Bill: Don't forget to rotate to match the dock!

B9k: I would never.

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*Thunk*

B9k: Ladies and gentlemen, we have docked.

Jim: There are no ladies on this flight.

B9k: Stop nitpicking.

Jeb: Bill, Bob- please meet us in the lab.

Jim: Where's the bathroom?

Jeb: If you need to throw up, use a bag. Fluids go everywhere in microgravity.

Jim: I have learned that already.

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A couple minutes later

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Jeb: Now, you might be wondering why I have gathered you here today....

Kirlak: I have been here the whole time!

Jeb: I was being dramatic.

Kirlak: Just start it.

Jeb: Fine...

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Jeb: This is our gravioli compression chamber-

Bill: I know- I helped you build it!

Jeb: I AM RECAPPING!

Bob: Easy on the 4th wall there Jeb.

Jeb: Alright- as I was saying- We did a dry run earlier to see if the space-time compression could smooth the background 'bumpieness' of the universe. It seems to have worked.

Kirlak: And we needed more power, so you guys are here to help us regulate the power flow for the next bit.

Jeb: We will be inducing fluctuations in the flattened space-time.

Bill: Sounds cool!

Jeb: Right- everyone to their posts! Firing in 3. 2. 1. FIRE!

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Jeb: Space-time is now smooth inside the chamber: inducing vibration now...

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B9k: Radiation and rare particles detected in testing chamber.

Jeb: Keep it up!

B9k: WARNING- SPACE-TIME RIFT DETECTED. ANOMALOUS PARTICLES DETECTED!

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B9k: RIFT FORMED!

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Jeb: That should be enough data- shut it down.

B9k: Complying...

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Bill: That was... Different.

Jeb: I wonder if we can use that to make a wormhole drive...

Bob: Maybe.

Jim: Minnimus's gravioli signature just changed! A whole new registry of particles!

Jeb: Turn to face with the detector.

B9k: Turning...

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Jeb: It looks like a signature has popped into assistance above the planet...

Kirlak: MC- begin construction of a high-orbit retrieval vehicle, and a replacement crew for us. Jeb- you will take the PastaMachine and check that signature out.

Jeb: Right.

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In minnimus orbit

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I hope everyone enjoyed the chapter- Internet just came back on, so I am posting it earlier than I said I would.

What do you think is happening in the last segment?

As always, I love to read your theories and ideas on what I put into the story.

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Well, that was...different.

Also, did I see a WarpGate (or something) at the end there?

It's not a warp-gate. The creators of the foundries do not have that technology.

Okay... had a laugh for the first part, then when the ship appeared.... um what.... I don't like the looks of that...

Guess! That's half the fun is guessing!

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So, after some thinking Ive come up with theory of the behaviour of the gravioli particles. (Does not follow the normal laws of physics, for simplicity and the fact that physics is different in KSP.)

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There are three main components in the gravioli particle; the nucleus, the primary and secondary graviton, the primary orbiting the nucleus, the secondary orbiting the primary. When the secondary graviton passes through the nucleus, a miniscule amount of force is exerted in the direction the graviton was passing through. Notice in the GIF that the secondary always passes through the nucleus in the same direction. Due to this behaviour, the gravioli particle exerts a weak, but directed force. When electrons pass by the particle, they rotate slightly so that the direction of the force and the electron's direction of travel are in line with each other. A special property of negative gravioli particles is that when matter is insides field of the particles, their mass is multiplied due to the forces being exerted in the field. When they exit said field, they split into multiple copies of itself and thus return into normal matter. These concepts allow the gravioli engines to function, the only thing you need is a lot of electricity to redirect the gravioli particles, requiring a superconductor made of Mun crystals to be able to handle the electrical demand.

Now about the different flavours of the gravioli, they are tied to the manner that the secondary graviton passes through the nucleus, ie., the angle the particle orbits around the primary graviton relative to it's orbit.

For example, one flavour of gravioli is able to short out electrical equipment because the secondary is orbiting at a precise angle that it allows electrons to pass through, giving them a kick as they pass.

That's all I have for now, so I'll add on more when I think of something new.

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Resnat Inc is proud to provide our concept for a Mun Orbital Station.

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It comes fully equipped with a long-range, high-gain antenna for near-instant communication with Kerbin, a science bay for continued, and extensive research of Mun, and two docking ports for miniature Mun landers, in which you will be able to land on the mun, gain scientific data, and return it to the lab for processing. Our engineers are still working on the design for the landers, but we expect them to finish within the next hour.

Blueprints: http://www./view/bpmoepckauuow4z/Mun_Orbital_Station.craft

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So, after some thinking Ive come up with theory of the behavior of the gravioli particles. (Does not follow the normal laws of physics, for simplicity and the fact that physics is different in KSP.)

[ WARNING! Wall of Text Inbound! ]

There are three main components in the gravioli particle; the nucleus, the primary and secondary graviton, the primary orbiting the nucleus, the secondary orbiting the primary. When the secondary graviton passes through the nucleus, a miniscule amount of force is exerted in the direction the graviton was passing through. Notice in the GIF that the secondary always passes through the nucleus in the same direction. Due to this behaviour, the gravioli particle exerts a weak, but directed force. When electrons pass by the particle, they rotate slightly so that the direction of the force and the electron's direction of travel are in line with each other. A special property of negative gravioli particles is that when matter is insides field of the particles, their mass is multiplied due to the forces being exerted in the field. When they exit said field, they split into multiple copies of itself and thus return into normal matter. These concepts allow the gravioli engines to function, the only thing you need is a lot of electricity to redirect the gravioli particles, requiring a superconductor made of Mun crystals to be able to handle the electrical demand.

Now about the different flavours of the gravioli, they are tied to the manner that the secondary graviton passes through the nucleus, ie., the angle the particle orbits around the primary graviton relative to it's orbit.

For example, one flavour of gravioli is able to short out electrical equipment because the secondary is orbiting at a precise angle that it allows electrons to pass through, giving them a kick as they pass.

That's all I have for now, so I'll add on more when I think of something new.

That is... Incredibly close to what I originally intended.

I will give you a nudge- the nucleus is the part that causes mass, the primary interacts (incredibly weakly) with the electromagnetic force, and the secondary interacts with the strong-weak force.

Secondary interacts with particles around it and allows for a "mass" charge to be transferred from the speed of spin of the gravioli.

Primary interacts with electromagnetic fields, forcing the gravioli to have the same "spin direction" as the electrons and protons that the secondary is providing the mass connection to.

Nucleus carries the "mass" charge, and uses the connections to the primary and secondary to "arc" the "mass" charge to particles it is interacting with.

Empty space is a soup of non-interacting graviolis, and these interact with matter as the matter gets closer to the gravioli.

The gravioli communications uses particle beams to force small amounts of mass in-and-out of existence in a fluctuating pattern, which can be detected by gravioli telescopes.

The engine forces graviolis in the middle of the ring to cluster, and begin to spin (like a whirlpool through 6 dimensions via it's interaction with electromagnetic fields), causing the matter within the gravioli ring to be interacted with more-so than would be normal in static space. Anything passing through the center of the whirlpool gains more and more mass as it remains in the middle of the field, and gains more and more inertia, but begins to interact with the now heavy-mass light particles.

Remember kids- if you want to have mass, you can't reach lightspeed!

(Inertia and mach's principle)

So, parallel universe Kerbals? Or parallel universe SWARM?
What the heck was that? Was that SWARM on the end, or was it some kind of time-fluctuation and kerbals from another dimension came? Or maybe that were kerbals from future?

Both, and neither.

The Founderies.. Are the result of thousands of years of un-supervised von-neumann drift.

Resnat Inc is proud to provide our concept for a Mun Orbital Station.

http://i.imgur.com/HGbHEpt.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5aWuXBO.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gS54loo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8sC9WSu.jpg

It comes fully equipped with a long-range, high-gain antenna for near-instant communication with Kerbin, a science bay for continued, and extensive research of Mun, and two docking ports for miniature Mun landers, in which you will be able to land on the mun, gain scientific data, and return it to the lab for processing. Our engineers are still working on the design for the landers, but we expect them to finish within the next hour.

Blueprints: http://www./view/bpmoepckauuow4z/Mun_Orbital_Station.craft

It looks good- this concept design will be used soon.

What happens if the kerbals make another big bang?

Restart button.

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I would like to propose an expedition to the Foundry orbiting Minmus by a B9K-controlled probe to analyze the objects produced by it rapidly and efficiently. The probe would assume an orbit with the same SMA as the Foundry, but would maintain a general position either A: behind it, B: in front of it, or C: in a pseudo-orbit of it.

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