What Happened to That Ship?

[zxczxczbfg]

I recall, from back in the days when I was playing the demo, that there was a very nice tri-stack-style ship that was quite capable of orbit and came stock with the game. I forget the name, but I remember it had the common "Kerbal [number]" arrangement. I would like to know: It's a nice design, so why did it go away? In fact, a number of the Squad-built ships available in the demo are missing from the full game's list. If anyone has a download for a (preferably 0.23 compatible) version of this ship, please don't hesitate to speak up! Also don't hesitate to speak if you know just why it was removed.\

EDIT: Both of the ships from the demo are now available on Curse (I myself posted them there).

http://www.curse.com/shareables/kerbal/220931-ye-olde-stocke-crafte

Edited August 20, 2014 by zxczxczbfg

[NASI Director]

I think it's because of the large gap between versions: I think that .19 was a save breaker because everything changed so maybe the layout of the .craft files did? I'm not sure, and it might work by copying the .craft file over from the demo into the full game.

[zxczxczbfg]

At this point, even just a screenshot of the craft in the VAB would be nice so I can try and replicate it.

Edited January 25, 2014 by zxczxczbfg

[Redrobin]

How old of a demo?

I have .13.0 and do not see the ship.

[zxczxczbfg]

I'm not sure how old. The version shown on the main page is 0.18.3 so I think that's the one I need. Gonna download the demo now to at least get some good screenshots of it. I might also try and emulate some of the other "scrapped" craft from the demo.

[Lazro]

Just the 0.18.3 demo. You should just be able to import the time to 0.23, I got craft files all the way back to 0.18.0.

[Redrobin]

Ah, not the old demos.

[NASI Director]

If it were from .13, there is no way you'd be able to get it to .23 (that I know of)

[zxczxczbfg]

There, got the .craft files from the demo. Now I'm going to TEST them! Muahahahahaha!

[sickboy]

now that you're speaking of that though it really makes me think that the game could use some pre-built ships, either for those that like flying more than building or for the newer players that are seeking inspirations, could make a bunch of ships designed for a whole bunch of purposes, lots of them on the spacecraft exchange but most of them use mods and it feels like a good pack of ships in the game already would be nice for newbies to get into and see how you're supposed to go about building stuff

[Commissioner Tadpole]

Well, the demo has two pre-made ships; Kerbal 1A and Kerbal 5.

[SRV Ron]

now that you're speaking of that though it really makes me think that the game could use some pre-built ships, either for those that like flying more than building or for the newer players that are seeking inspirations, could make a bunch of ships designed for a whole bunch of purposes, lots of them on the spacecraft exchange but most of them use mods and it feels like a good pack of ships in the game already would be nice for newbies to get into and see how you're supposed to go about building stuff

I periodically post simple designs listing if stock or mods, then leave it up to the player to build from the picture example.

Mun lander from the demo;

Move the legs further back or you may lose an engine on landing;

Career Munar Orbiter.

Simple three Kerbal orbiter; Mainsail for first stage, skipper on the second stage.

In Orbit

[SRV Ron]

Well, the demo has two pre-made ships; Kerbal 1A and Kerbal 5.

Here is the pic. Just keep in mind that the staging is not correct. The Kerbal 1A is the upper stage.

[Rickenbacker]

now that you're speaking of that though it really makes me think that the game could use some pre-built ships, either for those that like flying more than building or for the newer players that are seeking inspirations, could make a bunch of ships designed for a whole bunch of purposes, lots of them on the spacecraft exchange but most of them use mods and it feels like a good pack of ships in the game already would be nice for newbies to get into and see how you're supposed to go about building stuff

Check your VAB/SPH. The game already has premade ships.

[SRV Ron]

Test flight of the Kerbal 5. (Staging corrected.)

The Kerbal 5 modified for 0.23;

You can ditch the SAS, all the fins, and replace the upper stage LV-45 with a LV-909. Flies much better without the fins. Add solar panels.

[zxczxczbfg]

Indeed, with a bit of modification the Ker5 and Ker1A can very easily stand up to the stresses of 0.23 operation. I've posted the original .craft files to my SpacePort account (under the series title of "Ye Olde Stocke Crafte") for anyone who wants to fool around with them.

EDIT: Now that SpacePort has sadly bit the dust, the Ye Olde Stocke Crafte pack can now be found on Curse.

EDIT AGAIN: Now updated to 0.90, and pretty much future-proof now that the devs have announced that they're not going to be significantly changing existing stock mechanics.

Edited February 7, 2015 by zxczxczbfg

[Sargent890]

I think it was called the "Kerbal 5"