I'm not gonna lie. I cried.

[TheSaint]

Me too. It would be the best if I find it dead one day.

Having gone through both, I can say I would rather go through euthanasia. We had a dog die of gastric torsion when I was a teenager. It was at night, the dog was out in the back yard, if he made any noise none of us heard him. Found him dead out there the next morning, no telling how many hours he suffered.

When we had our dog put down in March she was comfortable and we were all there with her. Much better way to go in my book.

[lajoswinkler]

Having gone through both, I can say I would rather go through euthanasia. We had a dog die of gastric torsion when I was a teenager. It was at night, the dog was out in the back yard, if he made any noise none of us heard him. Found him dead out there the next morning, no telling how many hours he suffered.

When we had our dog put down in March she was comfortable and we were all there with her. Much better way to go in my book.

He was sick, so it probably hurt... I meant of the animal dies of old age, while sleeping. They go to sleep and never wake up. It's cardiac arrest and brain death. I don't think it involves any suffering because consciousness isn't online. I'd like if that happened to mine.

[7499275]

Whack, dammit! You're an awesome gamer but still man, that was over kill. Thanks for the water works.

[SpaceXray]

I don't think a man like Whackjob should be proud of having cried.

[lajoswinkler]

I don't think a man like Whackjob should be proud of having cried.

Why? Having empathy is one of the pinnacles of animal evolutionary and neural development. He should be proud to have nominal performance of his brain systems.

[Kinglet]

Why? Having empathy is one of the pinnacles of animal evolutionary and neural development. He should be proud to have nominal performance of his brain systems.

Stupid stereotypes must die. The whole stupid concept of "manliness" is just based on stereotypes that people made up, like: A true man never cries. A true man is muscular.

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[SpaceXray]

Stupid stereotypes must die. The whole stupid concept of "manliness" is just based on stereotypes that people made up, like: A true man never cries. A true man is muscular.

A true man must stay cold-blooded and logical, not necessarily muscular. You may cry if you wish, though it is not something to be proud of. Here you are not afraid of telling about it because no one knows you, but would you tell your friends? They'd probably laugh, even if they are pretty good pals. It might be a stereotype, but it makes sense.

[Dodgey]

A true man must stay cold-blooded and logical, not necessarily muscular. You may cry if you wish, though it is not something to be proud of. Here you are not afraid of telling about it because no one knows you, but would you tell your friends? They'd probably laugh, even if they are pretty good pals. It might be a stereotype, but it makes sense.

In what view, either subjective or objective, are separating people into gender roles beneficial or good in any sense?

Also how would you determine what a "true man" is?

[lajoswinkler]

A true man must stay cold-blooded and logical, not necessarily muscular. You may cry if you wish, though it is not something to be proud of. Here you are not afraid of telling about it because no one knows you, but would you tell your friends? They'd probably laugh, even if they are pretty good pals. It might be a stereotype, but it makes sense.

So if there's a war veteran (not a war criminal ie. never killed unarmed people, never tortured anyone, etc.; has a history of perfect honorable behaviour) having traumas and crying whenever he sees a child getting hurt, not being able to endure disgusting violence in the media without shaking - he is not a true man? Well that would be a bold statement.

What exactly is that "true man" you're talking about, why is it true and who decided it's true? The concept falls apart upon closer inspection.

[Dodgey]

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What exactly is that "true man" you're talking about, why is it true and who decided it's true? The concept falls apart upon closer inspection.

The concept fell apart years ago, gender roles are going the way of race roles and have been for years with no sign of slowing down.

[Rowsdower]

Remember to keep the debate cool and calm, guys. I know this type of thing could lead to weird places. Personally, I think that it's ok to cry, no matter who you are or what role you play - except in baseball. There's no crying in baseball.

[lajoswinkler]

The concept fell apart years ago, gender roles are going the way of race roles and have been for years with no sign of slowing down.

Just to clarify, I'm not one of those fanatics who disprove differences between two sexes. There are physiological and psychological differences which are innate and normal, and they extend to the society, contributing to gender roles. Those roles weren't totally invented. They have a biological basis, but the society has amplified them and used them to oppress.

As modern humans we should strive towards a more equal society based on reason where things like "men don't cry" and "if you cry, you're not a real man" are laughed upon.

[Claw]

Regardless of the source or where society ought to go, I don't think the topic of the thread it to debate who is and who isn't allowed to cry. I think Rowsdower is trying to point that out. Perhaps it's time to wander back to the topic instead of debating the differences between the sexes.

[Special Agent Sigvan]

Remember to keep the debate cool and calm, guys. I know this type of thing could lead to weird places. Personally, I think that it's ok to cry, no matter who you are or what role you play - except in baseball. There's no crying in baseball.

THANK YOU.

Anyways.

I DIDN'T CRY.

I WAS PUNCHED AND HAVE ALLERGIES.

THAT DOESN'T COUNT.

[RocketscientistV]

I saw this and tried to read it three times but stopped to stop myself from breaking down with grandparents in the room.

[LvL]

There are too many 3 legged dogs. One of my schoolteachers has a three legged dog, I read something on the national geographic site about a three legged dog, and now here I am, saddened, because I've seen too many three legged dogs

[Special Agent Sigvan]

I saw this and tried to read it three times but stopped to stop myself from breaking down with grandparents in the room.

How awkward was that?

[I.T Marcus]

It may of evoked emotion in me but not to the point of complete empathy and tears.... the human brain adapts to it's specific situation shaping the personality to its environment to ensure survival, people who do not feel empathy as sensitively as others are not "heartless" or "cold". It is the entirety of the brain that has shaped their personality into supressing empathetical neural pathways in order to maintain self-preservation. Usually this can be caused by an individual that has encountered difficult hardships, their brain... wanting to keep the individual intact then works a way around it... supressing empathetical feelings to avoid quick bonds to unknown individuals to avoid self-harm again....

Though I would post this to help finalize some of the previous debate and prevent future ones so that the mods do not have to close Whack's thread

If this post depressed you, firstly I am sorry but secondly... remedy this by pondering over how odd and silly the word "Bubble" is *winky face*

[Cocox]

You're missing the point. This is not about rationalization. Yes, there are way worse things in the news at the moment, just look at what's happening in Middle East, but this is about provoking an emotional reaction while reading and watching the photos.

A healthy person should feel at least some sorrow. That means his/hers brain responsible for empathy works fine.

What empathy? He killed Jeb so many times that now, he feels.. nothing