Kerbol+ Planets Pack Idea

[Nicholander]

Nicholander here, and pretty much, this is just me putting up my IDEA for a mod, Kerbol+, which would add new planets and moons with a stock feel, and they would be the planets described by former dev NovaSilisko, yes, including gas planet 2 and all it's moons. (Except Eeloo, which has a replacement)

Wait, I"VE ACTUALLY STARTED WORK ON THESE IN A MOD!

Anyway, these are the planets in it:

GP2/Prominatus: The second gas giant, exactly as NovaSilisko described it. It's orbit is a little less then 2x the orbit of Jool, like Saturn, and it would be 9000 Km wide. It will of course have rings, and well, I really don't know what color it should be. I think it should be either white or blue, like Neptune. (I think it's name "Prominatus" is a bit too long, do any of you guys have a name that more fits in the KSP style of planet names?) Also, it's rings would have asteroids, like the ARM patch. (Would use custom asteroids mod) It's 4 moons are:

They are in order of there orbital altitude, like Daphy has the lowest orbit and Potatus has the highest orbit.

Daphy: Exactly the same as NovaSilisko himself described it in his post. It's orbit will be so 75% of the time it's submerged in Prominatus' rings.

Fonso: 300 Km diameter, two atmospheres dense, and a very mountainous surface. Perhaps it could have tons of canyons, adding to the already hard to land on moon. It's exactly as NovaSilisko described it.

Mania (Eeloo substitute): A very odd and weird moon, as it seems to be both as habitable as Europa and as inhabitable as Moho. It's tidally locked, and on the side facing Prominatus it has cracks in it's very ice looking surface, like Europa. And on the side facing away from Prominatus, it looks like there's absolutely no possibility of life. There are (Fake) volcanoes/geysers dotted over the surface, like Io. It has craters absolutely everywhere, and there is also a 10 Km tall geyser near the south polar end of the non-Prominatus side of the moon.

Potatus: Pretty much the same as Inaccessible in Planet Factory, but a high inclination and it's a Prominatusian moon. It would also be more colored, to well, like a potato.

GP3/Hypat: Actually not a gas giant, and instead is 2000 Km wide, 30 atm pressure at sea level, and also 6gs at the surface. Good luck trying to take off under that, good freaking luck. It also looks like a very large Titan from space, and it's orangeish from space, but as you descend to Hypat's surface, it will slowly become a darker red. It's terrain would be tons of canyons, and the occasional large valley. Now it's moons:

Flark: It has faint rings, like NovaSilisko said. It's also a purpleish-blue color, and is 200 Km across, and it's terrain would be a mix between small mountains and a normal cratered surface.

Brutat: A small asteroid moon on a high inclination and a noticeabley encentrictic orbit. A potato-ish shaped an 70 Km across, and grey colored.

Fut: A 10 Km diamter potato shaped asteroid moon. Half of it is grey and the other half is purplish-blue, like Flark, it's orbit is higher then Brutat and a little more encentrictic. Fut is thought to be a former large part Flark's ring system, that somehow got into this weird orbit.

And finally, Siliskus, a comet. Because KSP is missing them. It's a grey-brown color, 5 Km across, noticabley potato-like, and it's on an insanley encentric orbit. It's perioapoasis is a bit lower then Moho's orbit, and it's apoapoasis is a bit higher then the orbit of Hypat. I wish it could also have the comet effect like in Alternis Kerbol, and it should have a little easter egg tributing NovaSilisko...

And these are some EPIC drawings of these planets made by Felsmak! (Check out his thread!)

Credit: Felsmak

Credit: Felsmak

Credit: Felsmak

Credit: Felsmak

Credit: Felsmak

So what do you guys think of this? Feel free to make suggestions too!

Edited December 4, 2014 by Nicholander
Added Link To Mod Page

[SkyRex94]

I recently had an Idea for a GP2 Name : Syterion

Your ideas are very similar to mine, like GP3 as a SuperEarth. I've made a post in the Planet Ideas Thread recently. And i'm thinking about making my own pack too, as soon as the replacement Mod for Planet Factory (called Kopernicus) is finished. (So pleace don't steal Syterion as a name , as i think about it , although i would wish it as the stock name)

Here's my post from the other Trhead :

So this seems to be the whishlist thread of 'how should your KSP System look like'

Okay, so here's my wishlist:

I'd like a believable System so no crazy SciFi Worlds, but things that stars have in our Real World.

First moving Eeloo to GP2 Orbit and a nice blue GP2 with stats I described in depth here: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/...the-7th-Planet its the Biggest Planet of the System! ca. 10000km Radius, but read the Thread if interested.

And on a believable Orbit, not inclined like Sentar of Planet Factory. All the heavy objects in a System would be roughly on the same plane, unless they were captured , but then heavy objects are unlikley to get captured from other stars too, especcially Gas Giants.

Eeloo should be somewhere close or in the Rings. And maybe change the Brownish things on Eeloo to be light blue, as on Enceladus , which looks much cooler.

GP2 Other moons:

Eeloo.

Titan-equivalent: Big moon, slightly smaller than Tylo, with a very dense Atmosphere

Iapetus-eq. : Some high contrast moon. Just outside the Rings so you'll have a great view.

As Jool does'nt have one, a real Io-eq. : volcanic moon with color like Io and thin atmosphere.

5th main Moon: 150km ,A Pitch Black Moon, literally. Surface Color like Coal and you can't see anything during the nighttime if you've forgot to bring lights with you. With Rough Cliffs and Canyons, that hide in the Dark

3-4 Moonlets like Bop and Pol, maybe one even Orbiting one of the main moons, so a moon-moon And maybe one between GP2 and his Rings, near the Atmosphere , for View.

The moons don't have to be in that order.

8th Planet:

Two Options: Either a GP3 or a Super-Earth, ca. 3500 km Radius (smaller than GP2 and Jool)

GP3-Option: For variety of GP's either a strong Red or Yellow or a very Dark Blue color and maybe thin tiny Rings.

Super-Earth-Option: Atmosphere like the one on Kerbin, but very very high Surface gravity so you'll need more than parachutes to land and a lot of DeltaV to start again. Should be a very hostile place, like Eve or a gas giant, no life or Oxygen atmo. Looking hostile from SPAAACEE and beeing even more hostile on the ground.

Moons:

Triton-eq: 400km Radius Moon with retrograde Orbit, surface similar to Triton.

A standard 'Moon'-Moon: like Mun, Ike or Dres and like most of the Moons in our System. Maybe with very high rotational speed.

A SandBrown 300km Moon with a thin atmosphere, looks warm but is below zero, with some liquid lakes made of liquid Carbondioxide or Methane.

2-3 Moonlets.

--(Maybe a GP4 but only if performance of KSP increases and if it'll be something new and unique, different to GP 1-3)

9th Planet-oid:

Ike sized Object on eccentric orbit in ressonace to 8th Planet.

small Gilly-sized Moon

10th Planet - not actual an Planet:

1 or 2 Comets on highly eccentric Orbits coming from behind 9th down to closer than Moho.

Another Solar System would be cool, but with the stock Tech level it's not practical to get there, so i doubt it will happen and for me, if the Kerbol System gets interesting enough, i'll be totaly fine

I'm not good in finding Names (for GP2 maybe those Nova proposed) if you come up with something i should now, please comment.

And then some immersive enhancements like active geysiers or vulcanos. And then some Biomes, but not as much as the Mun has for every planet, especially if just renaming same looking Craters. And simultanously either increasing tech-cost or drastically decreasing science pool everywhere.

Edited July 31, 2014 by SkyRex94

[Nicholander]

Huh, what a coincidence! I like do certainly like your idea, and I also shoud have mention that Prominatus is on a 1.2 degree inclination. And Hypat is on a 3 degree inclination, unlike Sentar and a few other planet factory mods. Also, Planet Factoty is no long being updated?!?!? Well at least there's a replacement coming!

[tychochallenge]

GP3 should be orangish high up but deeper in it will become darker red. Good luck my friend, I have seen many failed attempts at creating Nova's planets, I will certainly be keeping up with this thread.

[Nicholander]

GP3 should be orangish high up but deeper in it will become darker red. Good luck my friend, I have seen many failed attempts at creating Nova's planets, I will certainly be keeping up with this thread.

Okay, that'd be good for Hypat, instead of the boring Titan rip off. Thanks for the idea. Also, how did they fail at creating NovaSiliskos planets? Where they just lazy or was it imposibru for them? Could you also link the threads of those attempts to me?

[SkyRex94]

Huh, what a coincidence! I like do certainly like your idea, and I also shoud have mention that Prominatus is on a 1.2 degree inclination. And Hypat is on a 3 degree inclination, unlike Sentar and a few other planet factory mods. Also, Planet Factoty is no long being updated?!?!? Well at least there's a replacement coming!

Yes i didn't mentioned that too. I'm also planning for rather flat inclinations ( unless for relative light objects), because i want it to be realistic and believable. Many of the PF mods have either the planets or th moons on totally unrealistic inclinations. You wont have a huge Gas Giant on a weird Inclination in Real Life ( unless it got captured, what's also unlikley for heavy gas giants, the same thing with heavy moons.) The lighter, the bigger can be the inclination without getting absurde. You see that in Real life and also in Stock KSP ( Moho and Eeloo are small and have bigger inclination, the heavier the more plane they become, or looking at the moons of Jool, the three main moons are plane , Bop is light and can have a inclination)

I testet Sentar and Urania and have seen pictures of others and everytime i thought: " How in Hell should such a Formation form and be stable?!?!? that doesn't make any sense at all!"

[Nicholander]

Yeah I know right? Also, could you give me a link to this Kopernicus thing? And do you think there's any more celestial bodies I could add? Maybe some more asteroid moons for Prominatus, like Pol and Bop?

[SkyRex94]

Sure, here, it is in active developement sice several days and looks very very promising IMO : http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/88168-Early-development-0-24-Kopernicus-Planetary-System-Modifier

[Nicholander]

Promising indeed! I just hope that it will be released in 3 days or less, so that we I make thread on the add-on development forum is doesn't start with me begging for a pre-release of Kopernicus, and that it is relatively easy to use.

[tychochallenge]

Okay, that'd be good for Hypat, instead of the boring Titan rip off. Thanks for the idea. Also, how did they fail at creating NovaSiliskos planets? Where they just lazy or was it imposibru for them? Could you also link the threads of those attempts to me?

Well, here are some links to people's WIPs who either gave up, or just forgot/discontinued for a long time:

1. http://http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/71338-Plugin-WIP-Nova-s-Plernets-Dev-Thread(PlanetFactory-CE)

this one hasn't seen recent activity

2. http://http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/67147-0-23-The-Kerbal-Universe-Project-V-11-Discountinued-(5-6-14) 'discontinued'

3. http://http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/36293-Planets-and-ScaledSpace 'discontinued'

4. Alternis Kerbol: isn't much about GP2 but its discontinued

there may have been others that i have missed

[Nicholander]

Well, here are some links to people's WIPs who either gave up, or just forgot/discontinued for a long time:

1. http://http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/71338-Plugin-WIP-Nova-s-Plernets-Dev-Thread(PlanetFactory-CE)

this one hasn't seen recent activity

2. http://http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/67147-0-23-The-Kerbal-Universe-Project-V-11-Discountinued-(5-6-14) 'discontinued'

3. http://http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/36293-Planets-and-ScaledSpace 'discontinued'

4. Alternis Kerbol: isn't much about GP2 but its discontinued

there may have been others that i have missed

Uh.... they all lead to "Webpage not available". Did you miss something when pasting them?

[tychochallenge]

Uh.... they all lead to "Webpage not available". Did you miss something when pasting them?

oh sorry, i don't know why but look at the link on the webpage not available page and you'll see the name in the link

[Nicholander]

Okay... I went to all of them and well, I still think I can do it. Also, Is it possible to add ground scatter with planet factory? For example, the fluff on Daphy.(I'm assuming Kopernicus will have all of PF's features)

[SkyRex94]

I just slapped together the first lousy Syterion Texture Prototype. Just to get the feeling what i want to do when Kopernicus is finished.

Syterion Prototype :

http://imgur.com/a/e3j4a/

Edited July 31, 2014 by SkyRex94

[Nicholander]

Awesome! Yeah, I know it's an early texture, and did you use Planet Factory? Or did you use Texture Replacer on Jool?

[SkyRex94]

Planet Factory CE on my Mod-Testing-KSP-Install

[Nicholander]

Oh, someone made a fix for it? But there's still the pesky license, so Kopernicus will be the better option. Always. Also, did you make a new gas giant in Planet Factory CE or did you re-texture Jool? And how did you make that texture?

[SkyRex94]

You can only make Jool Templates in PF, thats why i'm waiting for Kopernicus. and it seems quite buggy sometimes. It was just for the looks, not for actual gameplay yet.

And i'm not a graphics guy, so here's how i made the texture : http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/89041-Question-Making-Texture-only-having-round-Pics

[Nicholander]

Ah, interesting. I'll probably use SpaceEngine once I get home to find a texture.

[Sylandro]

What about JoolPlus?

[Porkjet]

I've been working on exactly the same. I eventually even planned to name it Kerbol Plus(!!!)

Wasn't doing nova's ideas, but stock-ish version of our solar system was the plan, so its similar.

I stopped work on it because Planet Factory just has to many limitations and I'm waiting for a better alternative.

here's what I have so far:

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[Nicholander]

1. My thread has spontaneously been bumped!

2. What a coincidence! I like Tekto, just make it bigger and meaner (30 Gs, 6 atm pressure!), and you get Hypat! Well, and make it it's own planet and give it some moons, and blah blah blah...

3. What about Jool+? Did you think I stole the name? Do you think some of Jool+'s moons should be in this?

4. I will try to start developing this when Kopernicus is released.

Edited August 11, 2014 by Nicholander
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[GigaG]

I completely support more planets. How are these implemented, though? I've heard they have to be done by decompilation. Nevertheless, I love the idea.

[Nicholander]

Thanks for the support!

EDIT: Also, Felsmak is drawing my planets, so check out his thread!

[Nicholander]

Felsmak finished drawing Prominatus and it's moons, and these are EXACTLY how there going to look!