[0.14-0.16] Kessler: asynchronous, shared-world multiplayer (+ save editor)

[mivanit]

i have a windows, and i installed it in the KSP_win folder, but when i try to run any of the .bat files they just open and very quickly close a command line

EDIT: it started to work when i deleted the .sh files

EDIT: nevermind... still doesnt work

[FriedMunCake]

I have a question, would it be possible to make a version where it has all the launching and such of the players and you can see it, but it limited to, say, 2 players on a LAN connection.

Doesn\'t Kessler work on the basis theres the host and signal is sent to there, put into one file and then it distribute the same file to everyone, or does it have the signals sent into the server which up dates with the other parts as it syncs then it is checked via the host the sent from the host back to the server and from the server to everyone.

To put it more simply:

Theres a sky in a thunderstorm, does the lightning go up from the small clouds and up to the giant cloud and that sends it back after sabilizing the voltage, or does the lightning goto the middle cloud the up then down and distributes between.

[ToxicFrog]

i have a windows, and i installed it in the KSP_win folder, but when i try to run any of the .bat files they just open and very quickly close a command line

EDIT: it started to work when i deleted the .sh files

EDIT: nevermind... still doesnt work

Try running it from the command line and see if you get a sensible error message.

I don\'t have a lot of time to work on Kessler right now, but when next I do I\'m looking into a different way of launching it on windows that\'s hopefully less of a pain.

I have a question, would it be possible to make a version where it has all the launching and such of the players and you can see it, but it limited to, say, 2 players on a LAN connection.

Doesn\'t Kessler work on the basis theres the host and signal is sent to there, put into one file and then it distribute the same file to everyone, or does it have the signals sent into the server which up dates with the other parts as it syncs then it is checked via the host the sent from the host back to the server and from the server to everyone.

That is a very confusing question. If what you\'re asking for is real-time, synchronous multiplayer, Kessler doesn\'t do that and never will - it just merges save files. What you\'re after would require plugin support at minimum and possibly changes to the core game engine.

[FriedMunCake]

Well, please answer my second question on that post and I have another question, could I have a download link for just the save editor, where you can merge the persistance files.

[ToxicFrog]

Well, please answer my second question on that post and I have another question, could I have a download link for just the save editor, where you can merge the persistance files.

What second question? If you mean your thunderstorm analogy, it\'s not something I can answer because it makes no sense. There isn\'t a comprehensible question there.

There is no download for just the save editor without the rest of kessler, nor is there any reason to have one - it would only save 50k or so.

[EnhancedCookie]

Hi, I cant seem to be able to connect to any of the test servers... It just says: Timeout in communication with server.

[Just Great]

This is a problem from my lack of experience with codes, but I have no idea how to use the editor on OSX. So far I\'ve gotten to the command lines but I have no idea what to do from there.

So far all I\'ve done is wiped a save file

[Logon]

I get these

Error loading part definition for parts\ladder1, skipping: Input length = 1

Error loading part definition for parts\telescopicLadder, skipping: Input length = 1

Error loading part definition for parts\telescopicLadderBay, skipping: Input length = 1

No idea why all these parts should be first party and the cryptic error 'Input lenght = 1' does not really help me

Anyone got any ideas?

[ToxicFrog]

Hi, I cant seem to be able to connect to any of the test servers... It just says: Timeout in communication with server.

The test servers go up and down a lot, mine in particular is down right now while I do some upgrades. You can always run your own.

This is a problem from my lack of experience with codes, but I have no idea how to use the editor on OSX. So far I\'ve gotten to the command lines but I have no idea what to do from there.

So far all I\'ve done is wiped a save file

Type 'help' and it\'ll give you a list of all of the commands, and 'help [command]' for detailed instructions on a given command. I freely admit that the editor is somewhat arcane, though.

You shouldn\'t need to worry about wiping out a save file, though - it doesn\'t actually save anything until you run 'save', and it creates a backup of the original file when it does so.

I get these

Error loading part definition for parts\ladder1, skipping: Input length = 1

Error loading part definition for parts\telescopicLadder, skipping: Input length = 1

Error loading part definition for parts\telescopicLadderBay, skipping: Input length = 1

No idea why all these parts should be first party and the cryptic error 'Input lenght = 1' does not really help me

Anyone got any ideas?

'input length = 1' is an error from one of the libraries I\'m using and generally means a text-encoding problem of some kind. I thought I fixed that bug, though - and I can\'t reproduce it here.

What OS are you using? What language are you using? Are you sure you have the most recent version of Kessler?

If the answer to that last question is 'yes', could you upload the part.cfg for those three parts for me to look at?

[Dani]

I\'m having the same issue here on windows 7...

I manually added those to the set, at which point it allowed the merge... (Very dirty solution)

Also, a kerbal on EVA (I have one in his own orbit) is called the 'kerbalEVA' part, which is not a 'real' part... so it will never merge.

[xlo]

Error loading part definition for parts\ladder1, skipping: Input length = 1

Error loading part definition for parts\telescopicLadder, skipping: Input length = 1

Error loading part definition for parts\telescopicLadderBay, skipping: Input length = 1

Kessler seems to attempt to decode the text files with a different charset than they were encoded with. This causes it to be unable to decode non-ASCII characters.

Simple fix: open the affected part.cfg files and change

manufacturer = RÖKEA Inc.

to

manufacturer = ROKEA Inc.

[Colderjake1524]

Love it! Took me a while to figure it out since i had to place the .bat files in the KSP directory

[ToxicFrog]

Also, a kerbal on EVA (I have one in his own orbit) is called the 'kerbalEVA' part, which is not a 'real' part... so it will never merge.

Good catch. I\'ll probably have to add a specific exception for this.

Kessler seems to attempt to decode the text files with a different charset than they were encoded with. This causes it to be unable to decode non-ASCII characters.

Simple fix: open the affected part.cfg files and change

manufacturer = RÖKEA Inc.

to

manufacturer = ROKEA Inc.

It tries to decode everything as UTF-8, because, at least until now, that worked with all of the part configs and fixed an issue with non-ASCII rocket names that were causing encoding detection to fail.

Why can\'t everything these days just use UTF-8 :\'(

[Dani]

For anyone that wants to join in the fun, I have zeroed out and opened my 24/7 Kessler Server.

This server is dedicated and will have 100% uptime... (If it goes down, send me a PM)

# Host and port the server is running on.
host = mine-freak.com
port = 8988

[Arrowstar]

Bug report: if the game currently doesn't have a persistence file, Kessler freaks out. Program told me to report it, so here I am...

[Arrowstar]

I just added an empty rocket stack and crashed cart to the server on Minmus. Sadly, the crew is dead but the lights on the cart certainly make for a nice landing beacon. Anyone want to establish a base there? I parked on the edge of a crater in the northern latitudes. Looks like a fun place to explore.

[Dani]

Any progress on a new version with a ladder and KerbalEVA fix? Also, did you remove the netcode from the GitHub repo?...

[MC2552John]

Whenever I try to run the batch kessler_server or kessler_client, a DOS window pops up for a split second and then disappears. Any idea what is happening?

[Geeny]

Whenever I try to run the batch kessler_server or kessler_client, a DOS window pops up for a split second and then disappears. Any idea what is happening?

I believe that's how the client is supposed to behave. It opens, then requests data and sends its own, then closes.

[mr_cookie]

Um when I try to join synmongers server I get this error:

With a fresh install:

Connecting to sashimi.synmonger.com:8988...
Server ready.
Uploading saves/default/persistent.sfs to server for merge...
0 objects successfully uploaded.
Requesting new save file from server...
Save file contains 36 crew and 26 vessels.
Scanning KSP directory for parts...
Error loading part definition for parts\ladder1, skipping: Input length = 1
Error loading part definition for parts\telescopicLadder, skipping: Input length = 1
Error loading part definition for parts\telescopicLadderBay, skipping: Input length = 1
Applying filter 'debris'
Applying filter 'launchpad'
Applying filter 'ghost'
Merging save...
Rejecting vessel TD2L-Redux - requires the following parts:
	LargeadvSasModule
	LargeRCSFuelTank
	LargestackTriCoupler
	LargeRCSFuelTank
	LargeRCSFuelTank
	LargeRCSFuelTank
	mumech.hullcam
	telescopicLadderBay
	ladder1
	ladder1
	ladder1
	mumech.hullcam
	mumech.mechjebrad
	telescopicLadderBay
Rejecting vessel Untitled Space Craft - requires the following parts:
	mumech.mechjebpod
	C7A.Fuselage.MK1.Jet
	C7A.Fuselage.MK1.Jet
Rejecting vessel Untitled Space Craft - requires the following parts:
	mumech.mechjebpod
Rejecting vessel Anvil I - requires the following parts:
	JumpDrive
	mumech.mechjebAR202
Rejecting vessel Kerlab X1 - requires the following parts:
	mumech.mechjebAR202
	telescopicLadder
	telescopicLadder
	telescopicLadderBay
	telescopicLadderBay
	telescopicLadderBay
	telescopicLadderBay
Rejecting vessel Anvil I - requires the following parts:
	JumpDrive
	mumech.mechjebAR202
	hstwRover
Rejecting vessel Anvil I - requires the following parts:
	JumpDrive
	mumech.mechjebAR202
	hstwRover
Rejecting vessel Untitled Space Craft - requires the following parts:

And with my client with plugins and addons

Connecting to sashimi.synmonger.com:8988...
Server ready.
Uploading saves/default/persistent.sfs to server for merge...
0 objects successfully uploaded.
Requesting new save file from server...
Save file contains 36 crew and 26 vessels.
Scanning KSP directory for parts...
Error loading part definition for parts\CP_Bigtrak_forks, skipping: [28.4] failure: string matching regex `= *[^\n]*' expected but `Z' found

Up Z

   ^
Error loading part definition for parts\hstwRover, skipping: key not found: name
Error loading part definition for parts\hstwRoverTank, skipping: [1.5] failure: string matching regex `= *[^\n]*' expected but `-' found

?// --- general parameters ---

    ^
Error loading part definition for parts\hstwRoverThruster, skipping: [1.5] failure: string matching regex `= *[^\n]*' expected but `-' found

?// --- general parameters ---

    ^
Error loading part definition for parts\ladder1, skipping: Input length = 1
Error loading part definition for parts\OC_Drill, skipping: [24.4] failure: string matching regex `= *[^\n]*' expected but `c' found

Be careful - the drilling unit is very heavy!

   ^
Error loading part definition for parts\telescopicLadder, skipping: Input length = 1
Error loading part definition for parts\telescopicLadderBay, skipping: Input length = 1
Applying filter 'debris'
Applying filter 'launchpad'
Applying filter 'ghost'
Merging save...
Rejecting vessel TD2L-Redux - requires the following parts:
	LargeadvSasModule
	LargeRCSFuelTank
	LargestackTriCoupler
	LargeRCSFuelTank
	LargeRCSFuelTank
	LargeRCSFuelTank
	mumech.hullcam
	telescopicLadderBay
	ladder1
	ladder1
	ladder1
	mumech.hullcam
	telescopicLadderBay
Rejecting vessel Untitled Space Craft - requires the following parts:
	C7A.Fuselage.MK1.Jet
	C7A.Fuselage.MK1.Jet
Rejecting vessel Kerlab X1 - requires the following parts:
	telescopicLadder
	telescopicLadder
	telescopicLadderBay
	telescopicLadderBay
	telescopicLadderBay
	telescopicLadderBay
Rejecting vessel Anvil I - requires the following parts:
	hstwRover
Rejecting vessel Anvil I - requires the following parts:
	hstwRover
Rejecting vessel PowerSat Sat-Boy I - requires the following parts:
	PowerSat
Rejecting vessel Spacedock - Crusader I - requires the following parts:
	mk1Emptypod
	telescopicLadderBay
	mk1Emptypod

And another question can you use addons and plugins on kessler?

[Tommygun]

Thanks for this, I can use the edit tools a lot.

[morpheus2n2]

Hi in the OP you say you can use the editor to sort out you orbits, can anyone please help me with this as I have 4 satellites in orbit but there all close to each other, but you say I can use the editor to "teleport" them in to orbits that I want?

What im hoping its to have them all orbiting 5k out and one on each side and pole of kerbin this will give me full 360 line of sight for comms, but currently I have 2 in almost geo-sync above mission control and the other two are orbiting the poles.

Thanks so much

[Geeny]

Um when I try to join synmongers server I get this error:

*snip*

And another question can you use addons and plugins on kessler?

Yes you can use plugins. In fact, the errors are probably caused by ships on the server which have parts that you do not. Nothing should break, just those ships won't be uploaded.

[mnnm1234]

Yes oh god yes!

[trollmylove]

so much win.