Orbital Sciences Cygnus launch scrubbed because of a boat

[Franklin]

It happened. Why should people stop bringing it up?

At very least people shouldn't use it as a comparison point as to what the US should've done with regards to this boat.

[SpaceXray]

Well the rocket just blew up.....

[Motokid600]

That caught me off guard... Holy crap! I was turning my head to watch it, but.. WOW.

Edit: I gotta see it again, but it looked like the second stage ignited

Edited October 28, 2014 by Motokid600

[Kulebron]

Sorry to hear this. Is the launch pad damaged? Was the payload critical for ISS?

[Sky_walker]

Sorry to hear this. Is the launch pad damaged? Was the payload critical for ISS?

Yes it was damaged,

no it wasn't critical.

[tutrakan4e]

Sorry to hear this. Is the launch pad damaged? Was the payload critical for ISS?

It did have a cake for the commander :c

[xenomorph555]

It happened. Why should people stop bringing it up?

I'm sorry, I didn't mean it like that. People tend to use the event (which happened 20 years ago) to "bully" China's current space program, no one (apart from a small minority) would use say the challenger disaster to say the US sucks.

[Kulebron]

Can't but quote this Youtube comment:

Russia we're sorry you were right. Can we just pay you to keep doing this for us??

(Well, TBH, while Soyuz has good reliability, Proton is actually worse than anything, and failures in different places mean it's terrible manufacturing. Constant failures mean it's terrible management.)

Edited October 28, 2014 by Kulebron

[Reddragon]

Can't but quote this Youtube comment:

(At least if it's delivered on Soyuz, not Proton.)

How about keeping these stupid comments and attitude out of the KSP community?

[Kulebron]

This is not stupid, because the commenter, even jokingly, was discussing success/failure rate, and I've kept the same, I edited it to add more on topic info.

[Reddragon]

This is not stupid, because the commenter, even jokingly, was discussing success/failure rate, and I've kept the same, I edited it to add more on topic info.

So it applies more for the Soyuz launcher and not the Russians themselves considering the Proton is also Russian. That means this 'joke' makes no sense.

I'm just saying, this failure/success debate is getting old.

Edited October 28, 2014 by Reddragon

[Kulebron]

Sure. Well, the commenter meant that Soyuz is more reliable. Let me post an image of reliability comparison which really chaged my perspectives:

smoke size = total launches last 10 years

orange smoke = failures in last 10 years

red circle = failure rate

The most failing are, left to right: Proton (6,45%), Zenit (6.1%), Dnepr (6.25%), Rokot (13.33%). Some American rockets, despite a couple of spectacular explosions, have a very good record.

[Reddragon]

Sure. Well, the commenter meant that Soyuz is more reliable. Let me post an image of reliability comparison which really chaged my perspectives:

smoke size = total launches last 10 years

orange smoke = failures in last 10 years

red circle = failure rate

The most failing are, left to right: Proton (6,45%), Zenit (6.1%), Dnepr (6.25%), Rokot (13.33%). Some American rockets, despite a couple of spectacular explosions, have a very good record.

That's true. For some reason I still like the Proton very much. Maybe it's because of it's history with Zond. Soyuz is more elegant though.

[TheGatesofLogic]

as i said.. common sense.. i make fresh brewed coffee every morning and i am not dumb enough to just simply pour the whole thing into my mouth.

those are the same people, hurting their tonge with a fork and sueing the restaurant..

but thats very off topic now. i am sorry.

I don't think you get it. When you make coffee YOU usually boil it correct? If you order coffee from a restaurant do you expect it to be served less than 5 degrees C under boiling? Nobody does. If you take even a small sip of coffee that hot it would cause severe burns to your tongue, which may cause you to involuntarily spill the coffee over yourself. Such a substantial mistake on McDonald's part is a serious hazard, regardless of the way in which it was discovered, which is REALLY what the lawsuit was about.

[Camacha]

smoke size = total launches last 10 years

orange smoke = failures in last 10 years

red circle = failure rate

I am not sure the 10 year cap makes for an honest comparison, but hey.

[CptRichardson]

I am not sure the 10 year cap makes for an honest comparison, but hey.

Also, it doesn't have the Falcon-9...