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[shynung]

I'm skeptical. Deeply skeptical.

[Z-Man]

Please tell me this is satire.

[N_las]

That post gave me cancer.

[Aningaaq]

I feel like food would loose all its calories if you took all of the mass away from it. That energy has to go somewhere right?

Anyway, I'm not educated in these fields to say this is wrong but something about this seems fishy. I felt like I was about to be offered a time share before the video ended.

[*Aqua*]

and also to give unlimited resources/energy for everybody on Earth.

There is no unlimited amount of anything in this universe.

What do you think about it?

It's ......... The guy in the video just tries to sell something. Something that doesn't seem to exist.

He's even talking about generating an artificial gravitational field. There is no such thing (yet).

[astropapi1]

Shall we declare this a spiderman thread now?

[Guest]

I'm skeptical as well, who wouldn't be, but it's a mindset that all groundbreaking scientists who made huge discoveries had to deal with. You know all real geniuses had to deal with rotten tomatoes at first.

I am not a physicist at all, so i can only speculate, but you know intuition and stuff. Several times huge discoveries were kept hidden just because of corporation pressure (70s electric car for example)

Also understand that those thousands of rocket engineers working at NASA would loose their job if they had to recognize the truth of it.

There is no unlimited amount of anything in this universe.

What I meant is that the amount of energy is colossal compared to current ways of doing it, really really colossal. Nassim Haramein works explain (with elegant mathematics) why all things spin. and infinity is in nature

Big bang, dark matter, dark energy all that stuff they kept ductaping for too long because they could explain the basic rules of motions will probably be laughed at in 50years like we laugh now about the idea of a plane earth.

Something that doesn't seem to exist.

He's even talking about generating an artificial gravitational field. There is no such thing (yet).

Yes there is because gravitational and magnetic fields are always linked thats the idea, and why theres is no need for nuclear strong force, they basically replicate the earth as a system. It doesn't seem to exist mostly because it's kept hidden from the mainstream, because multinational corporations need WW3 to expand, not give access to everyone free energy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFTMiVs4VhY

Shall we declare this a spiderman thread now?

What do you mean?

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[Kryten]

There are words for what this is, but I can't use them on this forum.

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[Kryten]

Oh really? If that is so dumb (maybe it is) it should be very easy to prove him wrong right? But then why can't they?

It's very difficult to prove someone wrong when they're not saying anything coherent in the first place, but as far as I can tell he's talking about producing energy from gravitational and/or electrical fields, which is what comes out of the north side of a south-facing bull. Fields simply do not work that way.

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[shynung]

That's not infinite information, that's just a fractal pattern. Nothing's new about it.

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[*Aqua*]

Yes there is because gravitational and magnetic fields are always linked thats the idea, and why theres is no need for nuclear strong force, they basically replicate the earth as a system. It doesn't seem to exist mostly because it's kept hidden from the mainstream, because multinational corporations need WW3 to expand, not give access to everyone free energy.

The first part is something scientists are searching for about a hundred years and they hadn't success (the link between gravitation and electromagnetic forces). The second part is just a conspiracy theory.

[Tech Support]

I call bull.

[Z-Man]

Here's another link to Washington university works on "magnetospheric" plasma propulsion wich is related to current Keshe foundation works

http://earthweb.ess.washington.edu/space/M2P2/

they describe it as so:

That's a magnetic solar sail and has nothing to do with gravity. It may indeed work, the question is whether you can actually create a field large enough with little enough power consumption to make it worth it.

[Tommygun]

Here's a quick video explaining very well and simply this new kind of energy source, potentially unlimited and making obsolete all rockets technologies (a thousand years old technology with the first Chinese fireworks).

I think the Chinese are going to be pissed off.

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[shynung]

Yep it's not the shape that is new it's the meaning, each point of this structure has its own coordonates, that's what Nassim Haramein means by infinite information and that's an example to explain how inside the mass of a proton you can have information (=energy) about the whole universe (it is infinite but using plank's constant you can normalize it to our observable scale. And also that mass is the low part of the spectrum of space, like the low frequencies of space, space defines division patterns (plank's length) defines matter. You have to consider vacuum catastrophe for all this to make sense, which was ignored by the scientific community for years until they came up with a magical dark matter/energy that was here just to conveniently fill the gap when they realized that matter was only a TINY part of the universe. The missing part is that the total "observable" mass of the universe is equal to the "real"(taking into account vacuum energy) mass of a protons if you consider vacuum catastrophy.

Casimir effect experiments also confirmed vacuum energy effects, at macroscopic levels look it up

This also explains why Big Bang theory is kinda stupid and violates energy conservation principles.

This is nonsense. Fractal patterns are nothing more than mathematical sets that repeat themselves at every scale. The information contained is not infinite, else we would see different patterns at different scales.

I'd advise you to do more reading before furthering the discussion. Blaming the greed of corporations might be tempting, but ultimately does not provide any useful information.

[J.Random]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFTMiVs4VhY

This guy sounds A LOT like one of Mad Fellows from Futurama.

[Kryten]

Can you imagine how rich a corporation would get if they had a source of infinite free energy? They'd basically own the entire economy. Why would they bury it and try to sell some guns, or whatever it is you're trying to say?

[Z-Man]

Yep it's not the shape that is new it's the meaning, each point of this structure has its own coordonates, that's what Nassim Haramein means by infinite information and that's an example to explain how inside the mass of a proton you can have information (=energy) about the whole universe (it is infinite but using plank's constant you can normalize it to our observable scale. And also that mass is the low part of the spectrum of space, like the low frequencies of space, space defines division patterns (plank's length) defines matter.

Sorry, that's meaningless mumbo-jumbo.

You have to consider vacuum catastrophe for all this to make sense, which was ignored by the scientific community for years

It was not. It's on most top ten Things Physics Has to Get Straight lists. It's ignored in particle physics because unless you take into account gravity, the base energy density does not matter.

until they came up with a magical dark matter/energy that was here just to conveniently fill the gap when they realized that matter was only a TINY part of the universe. The missing part is that the total "observable" mass of the universe is equal to the "real"(taking into account vacuum energy) mass of a protons if you consider vacuum catastrophy.

Except... he gets it wrong by a factor of 10. From the video, the Mass of the universe is 10^55g, the proton volume 10^39cm^3, vacuum energy density 10^93 g/cm^3. That gives a proton mass of 10^54g. Plus, as he states that the mass of the universe is just enough to make the whole universe a black hole, that mass includes the fake dark matter, otherwise it does not add up. Sorry, that's pure numerology. Combining random numbers to find coincidences.

And he claims the force between protons is really the gravitational attraction between the proton black holes. Well, sorry, with any mass he attributes to them, that force would be way stronger than what is observed.

This also explains why Big Bang ... violates energy conservation principles.

Again, something that is very well known known. This time, however, not a problem. Energy conservation does not apply to cosmology.

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[KerikBalm]

That post gave me cancer.

I couldn't watch past the "like a boss"

Terrible terrible terrible lead in, I could tell nothing good would be following.

[Camacha]

If I ever need an example of a terrible salesman guy I have a clip handy.