MK3 SSTO+VTOL Showcase (also a kind of request)

[Wjolcz]

I haven't seen any threads like this so I figured I would create one.

So 0.90 came out(yay!), and we got those new heavy plane parts. I wanted to make an SSTO+VTOL MK3 thing. Here's what I came up with:

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Sadly, this thing doesn't fly very well(to be honest it almost doesn't fly at all!), and that's where the "request" part comes in...

I need an SSTO+VTOL MK3 aircraft able to land on islands of Laythe. If anyone could post some pics+dl of their working designs I would happily give rep all over the place. Preferably a FAR/NEAR-compatible one.

Just treat it as a showcase thread with DL links.

Edited December 17, 2014 by Veeltch

[Wjolcz]

Perhaps a bit too soon for heavy VTOLs...

[soulreaver1981]

You need more wingsurfas.

try to build one under this one and connect them via controlsurves and turn those of

[TheMontgomery]

The cargo bays concealing the VTOL engines is a nice aerodynamically-minded touch.

[Hodo]

I haven't updated to .90 yet but it isn't to heavy for VTOL SSTOs. I have made a few.

Or this...

And then this monster.

Those were all well over 200 tons and all capable of getting to orbit and taking a cargo with them.

[Wjolcz]

^Nice, but those are nowhere near stock Mk3s.

I actually have an SSTO design using stock mk3 parts. But making it a VTOL using jet engines is going to be some serious hellish experience.

[Hodo]

Veeltch, I was just showing that heavy SSTO VTOLs are not impossible or even that difficult. The last picture uses stock engines for its VTOL system. Two Mainsail rockets and two LV909s.

The first one uses aerospikes. To achieve its VTOL landing and take off ability. But to say building a VTOL of that size is hard, it isn't that hard once you understand the dynamics behind them. All you need is to keep you TWR greater than 1:1. And keep your COT directly below your CoM. All is easy after that.

[Wjolcz]

Veeltch, I was just showing that heavy SSTO VTOLs are not impossible or even that difficult. The last picture uses stock engines for its VTOL system. Two Mainsail rockets and two LV909s.

The first one uses aerospikes. To achieve its VTOL landing and take off ability. But to say building a VTOL of that size is hard, it isn't that hard once you understand the dynamics behind them. All you need is to keep you TWR greater than 1:1. And keep your COT directly below your CoM. All is easy after that.

I know all that but I also want to make it a Jet VTOL. And I'm a stubborn guy, you know.