Share your worst encounters with conspiracy theorists

[Mynorus]

My worst experience?

'The moon isn\'t real.'

[Thiel]

That is a problem, and yes, I know that the cells in a human body don\'t reproduce in 24 hours. Skin cells do it in 3 days, so do the cells in the stomach, but the reason for forcing all of the cells to do this is to reduce the need on anesectic, as being on anesectic for that longer would be detremental to the bodys well being. There is a heap of problems with this idea, but its the best one I have at the moment.

The biggest problem I can think of would be organ rejection. After all, you\'re effectively replacing your tissue with someone else\'s and your immune system is probably going to throw a fit.

*Imagines organ rejection of all your skin*

Shudder

[mincespy]

People saying that its impossible to change ones form once born. Its easy. Just need a paricite which creates virsis, which then change the replecation dna of the cells. If done enough over half an hour, this dna could change after the 'Full Restart', which is every cell in the body replicating within 24 hours. The body then digests its dead cells, and your body has changed.

How is this relevant...?

[Ydoow]

People saying that its impossible to change ones form once born. Its easy. Just need a paricite which creates virsis, which then change the replecation dna of the cells. If done enough over half an hour, this dna could change after the 'Full Restart', which is every cell in the body replicating within 24 hours. The body then digests its dead cells, and your body has changed.

After taking Physiology and Microbiology, the logic here makes me shudder.

A parasite does not create viruses, it may carry viruses and those viruses my reproduce within the parasite. But a parasite does not create viruses.

Not all viruses change the DNA of the host cells they\'ve attached to. Some intentionally do, some do on accidental (as is the case with cervix and penile cancers), and some flat out do not.

Furthermore, it\'s highly unlikely that integration of Viral DNA/RNA into a human cell genome would cause the cell to change.

Generally speaking (as my knowledge is general, and not entirely specific) a genomic integration would cause 2 things

1) Nothing. The goal of the virus is to reproduce, which may involve hiding from human defenses or stressed environments (low nutrients). Integrating into the genome is it\'s way of hiding it\'s genetic data until very specific proteins are released by receptors which indicate favorable environment conditions. This would, eventually, then cause the viral DNA to replicate via host cell pathways, in end creating several new viruses and destroying the host cell.

However simply integrating into the genome does not mean it will inherently kill the host, or change the host for better/worst.

2) Detrimental genetic regulation. This is unlikely to occur, and is probably the result of accidental integration. As stated above, the goal of any intentional integration is to protect the viral genome, and eventually reproduce. Causing a detrimental genetic regulation to the host cell is therefore also detrimental to the virus, and is thus avoided.

However, in the case of accidental integration (or perhaps viral RNA mutation) there is no insurance that the host cell will ignore the new segment of codons. This can cause severe mutations (e.g. frame shift, missense, nonsense, etc.) that may cause total breakdown in protein regulation, and thereby breaking cellular equilibrium, or worse, cancer.

Essentially anything could happen, but it is MUCH more likely for something extremely detrimental to occur.

Every cell in your body replicating is highly unlikely, and is in fact probably a giant stress on the body in general.

This is even assuming you can kill half of the cells in your body in under a half hour (and then presumably the other half after the remaining 50% replicated?...) and not go into some sort of anaphylactic shock and die. So-on, there are many different cells in your body, many of which have different broad innate immune responses, and others that are completely cut off from the immune system, and others more that have receive pre-filtered blood which block most infections from reaching there (blood-brain barrier). So it\'s highly unlikely you could even infect half the body\'s cells.

It was touched on that cells can\'t reproduce in 24 hours, and that\'s correct, although it varies.

Cells reproducing would probably be the same as the ones before, if you\'re saying they reproduce from stem cells or any remaining cells left over from the primary infection.

With that many dead cells (you\'re entire body?) I see no way to filter them all out. You\'d just die. There\'s too much. You\'re asking your body to filter out an entire body.

And FINALLY; what does this have to do with anything?

[VincentMcConnell]

He\'s trying to show that he\'s got some weird conspiracy theory... I don\'t know.

[DonLorenzo]

Ydoow, I just want to point out that you\'re bang on with your bit about viruses, however I think the other guy was referring to a hypothetical virus engineered to inject or alter host DNA. That\'s possible and has been used as an injection vector to cure some genetic defects caused by only one aberrant gene. That said, the thought is so badly written out and assumes sci-fi technobabblish leaps of consequence that I\'m impressed you wrote as big a reply as you did

[Awaras]

Ydoow, I just want to point out that you\'re bang on with your bit about viruses, however I think the other guy was referring to a hypothetical virus engineered to inject or alter host DNA. That\'s possible and has been used as an injection vector to cure some genetic defects caused by only one aberrant gene. That said, the thought is so badly written out and assumes sci-fi technobabblish leaps of consequence that I\'m impressed you wrote as big a reply as you did

If that is true, than HOW DO THE REPTILIANS TRANSFORM HUMANS INTO THEIR OWN SPECIES?!

[Ydoow]

If that is true, than HOW DO THE REPTILIANS TRANSFORM HUMANS INTO THEIR OWN SPECIES?!

I almost dropped my guitar laughing.

Ydoow, I just want to point out that you\'re bang on with your bit about viruses, however I think the other guy was referring to a hypothetical virus engineered to inject or alter host DNA. That\'s possible and has been used as an injection vector to cure some genetic defects caused by only one aberrant gene. That said, the thought is so badly written out and assumes sci-fi technobabblish leaps of consequence that I\'m impressed you wrote as big a reply as you did

Lol thank you. I\'m glad I remember stuff from my classes.

I didn\'t consider genetically altered viruses; you\'re right, and we did discuss a few genetically modified viruses (although I forget specifics). I remember one used a viral shell and the genome produced a protein for protein deficient persons.

However some people started building up an immune response against the viral shell coating, and one man died of anaphylactic shock during his third injection D:

At first I thought he was joking, but then I saw follow up posts saying he thought it was possible, just tough and I decided I needed to say something lol

[Guest GroundHOG-2010]

At first I thought he was joking, but then I saw follow up posts saying he thought it was possible, just tough and I decided I needed to say something lol

I will try to rephrase what I was meaning, I wasn\'t joking about the ablity to change an organic being\'s shape, internal organs... But that is the best plan I have to make it happen. So many unknowns though. But it all comes down to resources, time...

But everyone must have at least one strange theory (if not, Ill just go and hide under that rock over there).

[Ydoow]

I will try to rephrase what I was meaning, I wasn\'t joking about the ablity to change an organic being\'s shape, internal organs... But that is the best plan I have to make it happen. So many unknowns though. But it all comes down to resources, time...

But everyone must have at least one strange theory (if not, Ill just go and hide under that rock over there).

I think it would be easier to implant your brain into another body. lol

[Guest GroundHOG-2010]

I think it would be easier to implant your brain into another body. lol

If someone was to do that though, how would they know the memorys and the defining characteristics of that person would still exist?

(note: I don\'t know much about biology, its on my list of things to look into...)

[Kryten]

Because they\'re part of the brain, simple as that.

[Ydoow]

If someone was to do that though, how would they know the memorys and the defining characteristics of that person would still exist?

(note: I don\'t know much about biology, its on my list of things to look into...)

Who you are, how you act and judge is heavily influenced by your past environment.

Your mind pays attention to your environment so it can adapt to it, so that it can survive in order to reproduce.

Your mother would feed you, so you\'d stay close and develop a relationship with her.

She would punish you when you broke items, so you learned not to break items.

All these observations reflect on your personality today, and so all of those observations are stored in your brain.

There are many different areas or 'segments' of your brain, each more-or-less dedicated to specific tasks.

I believe it\'s the Amygdala (two almond shaped lobes) that are responsible for most of your memory.

Neurologists/biologists don\'t quite understand precisely how data is stored in your brain, but they know it involves creating/destroying many many synapses between neurons in various and extremely intricate patterns, and it\'s suspected a method of layering neurons is how your brain stores data.

So long as the brain isn\'t damaged during the transplant, everything you think, feel, and understand should be the same.

Your identity is entirely within your brain. The rest of your body is just peripheral.

A good analogy would be plugging in a different monitor into your computer.

A monitor has nothing to do with how the data is computed or stored, it only displays things. It\'s peripheral to the computer.

In the same way, switching your right arm with someone else\'s isn\'t much different (setting aside the possibility of rejection and all those smaller details...). It\'s just a piece of equipment for your mind to use.

I HIGHLY suggest taking something like Evolutionary Biology in College. It\'s a very very interesting course.

A lot of people don\'t believe in Evolution simply because they don\'t understand it; as in they think it is something that it really is not.

Evolution is a very very simple idea, but very mind opening.

The history of life is very compelling. I got a lot out of that class, and it taught me a lot about how to anticipate certain events or traits.

The theory of evolution extends way beyond biological implications, and I think a majority of people would really get a lot of the class.

Even if you despise/disbelieve in Evolution, you should at least make sure you truly understand what you are choosing to disbelieve.

[Guest GroundHOG-2010]

*Snipped*

Ill look into it (keeping in mind that I am only 15, though that isn\'t much of an excuse). And I also do believe in evolution, not just because NZ schools tend to dislike teaching religous stuff, but because it is a better theory than anything else out there (and advertises itself as a theory, not as it being correct).

[Ydoow]

Ill look into it (keeping in mind that I am only 15, though that isn\'t much of an excuse). And I also do believe in evolution, not just because NZ schools tend to dislike teaching religous stuff, but because it is a better theory than anything else out there (and advertises itself as a theory, not as it being correct).

I had to take it, I think, as a part of general education. But my school is kinda funny.

Evolution, as you\'ll find out, isn\'t an explanation for the origin of life, but rather, an explanation for the change in species we see over-time.

If you\'d like, I can send you a pm discussing it further. I really do enjoy discussing the theory of evolution.

It\'s odd, though. The mechanics behind it are virtually common sense, like 'No derp...why is this just a theory?', but it can\'t be proven so it remains a theory.

Keep in mind, a hypothesis is an idea that needs to be supported with facts and testing.

After a hypothesis becomes supported with facts and testing, it becomes a theory.

A theory then becomes proven after further testing and criticisms to be held 'true'.

Anything 'True' in science is just 'True until future facts suggest else-wise'

So what I mean to say is, Evolution has lots of supported evidence behind it, but due to the longevity of the testing (millions of years...) it can never be proven.

Although I kinda disagree with that :l

[Guest GroundHOG-2010]

I had to take it, I think, as a part of general education. But my school is kinda funny.

Evolution, as you\'ll find out, isn\'t an explanation for the origin of life, but rather, an explanation for the change in species we see over-time.

If you\'d like, I can send you a pm discussing it further. I really do enjoy discussing the theory of evolution.

It\'s odd, though. The mechanics behind it are virtually common sense, like 'No derp...why is this just a theory?', but it can\'t be proven so it remains a theory.

Keep in mind, a hypothesis is an idea that needs to be supported with facts and testing.

After a hypothesis becomes supported with facts and testing, it becomes a theory.

A theory then becomes proven after further testing and criticisms to be held 'true'.

Anything 'True' in science is just 'True until future facts suggest else-wise'

So what I mean to say is, Evolution has lots of supported evidence behind it, but due to the longevity of the testing (millions of years...) it can never be proven.

Although I kinda disagree with that :l

Send me a Pm if you want to.

[Thiel]

Actually, evolution has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Not only have we observed speciation, DNA sequencing has made it possible to trace every single species we know. (That we have a DNA sample from obviously)

[Johno]

My friend who\'s an evolutionary biologist would disagree with you about speciation . .

He says that the entire concept of a species is now up for review!

[Awaras]

My friend who\'s an evolutionary biologist would disagree with you about speciation . .

He says that the entire concept of a species is now up for review!

\'Species\' is just a convenient label we place on living organisms for easier classification. In nature it is a lot more fluid with unclear borders.

[Ydoow]

\'Species\' is just a convenient label we place on living organisms for easier classification. In nature it is a lot more fluid with unclear borders.

And thus enters evolution

It\'s very true. Every species has a 'Missing Link', referring to the half/half species that bridges another two.

Most typically thought of as the Link between Apes and Humans, but really every species has a Missing Link.

That\'s not true though, because every generation is a link, so you would have to discover every single life-form of said species to eliminate all \'Missing-Links\'

And at that point, it\'s not really a species you can differentiate. It\'s just a very fluid flow of changing life-forms, and it would be really hard to see any evolutionary 'progress' if you\'re only looking at, say, 10 generations.

It would be like zooming in 100,000 times on a 600x600pixel photograph and trying to figure out the whole picture