Linux help. Checking fimrware. Fedora. Sandforce cold start ssd.

[Arugela]

Sorry for putting this here, but as you can not in any linux community ask a question you do not already know the answer too nor expect any work in information being written for others to educate themselves with the same reasoning. Does anyone know how to find firmware for and SSD. I need to check for the susceptibility to the Sandforce cold start bug on my mushkin chronos enhanced ssd.

I'm on Fedora 21 64bit atm.

And I don't dare ask questions on the official forums(or any linux forum) or be told endlessly to learn more before asking a question... 8\ It's not worth the stress of putting up with those lazy obnoxious sobs.

Edited January 31, 2015 by Arugela

[LordFerret]

Firmware for any hardware device would be found via the manufacturer.

Hitachi SSD's FTW.

[Arugela]

I mean check the current firmware on the device. Or is that what you mean? I don't think any of them make linux apps to do that.(They always seem to be .exe. And I'm not running firmware stuff through wine!) And there is usually a way to check these from a cli in linux. I just don't know what it is.

[pxi]

A very quick google search suggests hdparm -I /dev/x where x is your drive

Here's what I get, checking on a VM:

pxi@virtualpxi:~$ sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda
[sudo] password for pxi:

/dev/sda:

ATA device, with non-removable media
        Model Number:       VBOX HARDDISK
        Serial Number:      VBd785f26e-8311c04b
        [B]Firmware Revision:  1.0[/B]
Standards:
        Used: ATA/ATAPI-6 published, ANSI INCITS 361-2002
        Supported: 6 5 4
Configuration:
        Logical         max     current
        cylinders       16383   16383
        heads           16      16
        sectors/track   63      63
        --
        CHS current addressable sectors:   16514064
        LBA    user addressable sectors:   33554432
        LBA48  user addressable sectors:   33554432
        Logical/Physical Sector size:           512 bytes
        device size with M = 1024*1024:       16384 MBytes
        device size with M = 1000*1000:       17179 MBytes (17 GB)
        cache/buffer size  = 256 KBytes (type=DualPortCache)
Capabilities:
        LBA, IORDY(cannot be disabled)
        Queue depth: 32
        Standby timer values: spec'd by Vendor, no device specific minimum
        R/W multiple sector transfer: Max = 128 Current = 128
        DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6
             Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns
        PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
             Cycle time: no flow control=120ns  IORDY flow control=120ns
Commands/features:
        Enabled Supported:
           *    Power Management feature set
           *    Write cache
           *    Look-ahead
           *    48-bit Address feature set
           *    Mandatory FLUSH_CACHE
           *    FLUSH_CACHE_EXT
           *    Gen2 signaling speed (3.0Gb/s)
           *    Native Command Queueing (NCQ)
Checksum: correct

Shouldn't expect a SSD to be any different.

Edited January 31, 2015 by pxi

[LordFerret]

A Google search also shows the "Sandforce cold start bug" is an old issue, and goes back to 2011.

[Arugela]

Yes I know, but HDparm doesn't work for the fedora install I'm using.That is why I'm asking and why quick google searches don't work. I did those already. And the Cold start bug is supposedly related to driver versions. I have all sleep modes disabled until I find my HDD's current firmware and investigate further. but I"m having trouble finding it.

I'm asking what the native commands are that would show Firmware. Hdparm doesn't come default on fedora and I have no idea if it causes any problems or not. Not in the mood to install something and find out, even after looking it up, that it conflicts with fedora and destroys something on my system.

Edited February 1, 2015 by Arugela

[pxi]

Well good luck then

[Newt]

Could you try at the Fedora Fora? They may be snobby, but they probably know more than most of us here. You may be the only one on Fedora at this site, for all I know, and we can only learn so much from VM's.

Hopefully, if you word you question right, give all the information that is needed, it will be far quicker, simpler, and less confusing than trying to find it here.

[Arugela]

Is it your place to tell people to go to another forum? Why say something when you could just let someone else answer who wants to. It's a very simple question. And there are lots of linux users. You don't have to respond if you don't know the answer or get involved in the conversation.

How about you go to another thread and find a way to amuse yourself in it since you can't be useful. I'll sit here and wait and see if anyone can help who knows the answer! 8)

Edited February 1, 2015 by Arugela

[LordFerret]

Methinks you've an attitude problem. Methinks you'll also be waiting a long, long time. Do your own damn homework.

[Newt]

I know there are a lot of Linux users here -- I am one myself. You just have a fairly specific problem that might be more easily solved elsewhere.

You may be able to do it using a Ubuntu live cd (or usb or whatever you like) following these instructions. I have not been able to find suggestions for Fedora specifically.

[LordFerret]

I know there are a lot of Linux users here -- I am one myself. You just have a fairly specific problem that might be more easily solved elsewhere.

You may be able to do it using a Ubuntu live cd (or usb or whatever you like) following these instructions. I have not been able to find suggestions for Fedora specifically.

I more tend to call Knoppix to the rescue.

The OP claims a difficult Fedora install to work with, comments that HDparm doesn't come default... but it does... Fedora is a branch out of Debian, HDparm is there... there will be no specifics for Fedora.

[pxi]

I more tend to call Knoppix to the rescue.

The OP claims a difficult Fedora install to work with, comments that HDparm doesn't come default... but it does... Fedora is a branch out of Debian, HDparm is there... there will be no specifics for Fedora.

Yeah Knoppix is pretty decent when it comes to livecd's. But then, any sort of livecd is probably as risky as using yum to install hdparm

Fedora is actually a RedHat derivative btw.

Fedora /fɨˈdɒr.ə/ (formerly Fedora Core) is an operating system based on the Linux kernel, developed by the community-supported Fedora Project and owned by Red Hat. Fedora contains software distributed under a free and open source license and aims to be on the leading edge of such technologies.

[Newt]

But then, any sort of livecd is probably as risky as using yum to install hdparm

I have used livecd's fairly routinely and have not had any serious problems with them...what exactly are you referring to as a risk?

As for Ubuntu vs Knoppix, I suppose probably Knoppix would be easier, unless, to the OP, do you have any livecd's on hand? You might could just use any of those.

[LordFerret]

Yeah Knoppix is pretty decent when it comes to livecd's. But then, any sort of livecd is probably as risky as using yum to install hdparm

Fedora is actually a RedHat derivative btw.

I sometimes forget that. Still, although not a default package, HDparm is a package available in Fedora.

There are so many Linux blends out there it's close to mind-boggling. There's a few I like (used to be a big SuSE fan... until), but I stick with Debian.

[pxi]

I have used livecd's fairly routinely and have not had any serious problems with them...what exactly are you referring to as a risk?

I was being rather sarcastic. Personally I wouldn't expect any issues at all. OP had the following to say about my suggestion to use hdparm:

I'm asking what the native commands are that would show Firmware. Hdparm doesn't come default on fedora and I have no idea if it causes any problems or not. Not in the mood to install something and find out, even after looking it up, that it conflicts with fedora and destroys something on my system.

So I suspect they would reject a livecd on the same basis of it having a non-zero possibility of destroying their system.

Edited February 1, 2015 by pxi

[Arugela]

I installed HDparm. I didn't think it was in the repository for some reason. Or it was saying it wasn't. I apparently have 600ABBF0.

Edited February 2, 2015 by Arugela