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Fearless Son

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  1. It's a visual oddity of the game, but if you really need to land in a place and there's a reasonable chance it'll be dark where you touchdown, put landing lights on your lander.  At least two lights in parallel around the bottom of your lander.  I find they're also helpful for seeing how close you are to the ground, since due to the square-cube nature of their projection the breadth of illumination will narrow.

  2. "I have people coming in here every other week to propose using giant rockets to put tiny probes into orbit, and here you are telling me you plan to put an entire goddamn spaceship up there?"

    "We're using nuclear bombs, sir. We can put something roughly the mass of downtown Chicago into orbit."

    - Apocryphal conversation attributed to engineers of Project Orion in a meeting with a United States Air Force admiral.

  3. I actually love those kinds of missions.  I'll sometimes wait until I have a bunch of contracts that I can do in a single mission, then run through them all at once.  

    Doing any one of the contracts is a simple enough engineering challenge, but trying to do all of them and figuring out how to do so cost-effectively is a lot of fun.  

  4. On 7/3/2019 at 8:17 AM, GameTourist said:

    Your approach makes me interested in building SSTOs again! 

    Here's an example of a small spaceplane as a proof-of-concept piece I called the "Flechette":

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    Two Whiplash engines give this thing a great acceleration force as it rises up through the atmosphere.  The aerospike engine is activated before the Whiplashes flame out, and the additional thrust from it forces more of the increasingly thin air into the Whiplashes, allowing them to continue to contribute thrust longer than they would alone.  The LF/O engine continues to burn throughout the parabola of the launch, and cuts out at about the time it reaches the apoapsis or shortly thereafter.  It doesn't even need a separate circularization burn, the initial one is enough.  It does get a little nail-bitey though since it's not clear if you have enough delta-v to make orbit right up until the point you actually make orbit.

    On 7/4/2019 at 8:44 PM, Incarnation of Chaos said:

    The main issue i find is that it's the only engine of it's kind, on a endgame node and ends up being more of a curiosity than much else. Rather than buffing the existing RAPIER i would like to see dedicated spaceplane engines expanded, with 1.875m, 2.5m and 3.75m parts. And before everyone says it; i'm more than aware mods for this exist (They're awesome and i have them downloaded).

    If I had a gripe with the R.A.P.I.E.R., that would probably be it.  It occurs a bit too late in the tech tree for my taste.  It's advanced, sure, but not available at a time you would find it a practical upgrade compared to everything you had been doing prior to that point.  If it were up to me, I would move the R.A.P.I.E.R. one node earlier and in it's place at the far end of the aerospace chain I would put a larger scale version of the same hybrid air-breathing/rocket engine.  Same relative balancing of mass and performance, just everything bigger.  It feels a little odd to see all these heavy spaceplaces with nearly a dozen R.A.P.I.E.R.s each to get to orbit, when a few larger versions of the same thing would probably be better suited to their mission profiles.

  5. 3 hours ago, Nich said:

    For this type of assent wouldn't panthers be better

    Maybe.  I haven't tested it.  But I do know that the Whiplash has a better TWR at high speed than the Panther does.  I tend to use Panthers more in situations where I need a plane with a high gimble range on the engines or the ability to rapidly raise their thrust at a moment's notice.  For something where you just push the throttle to max and go in a straight line at high altitude and high speed, my instincts tend toward the Whiplash.

  6. 9 hours ago, KerikBalm said:

    I find you can just substitute many rapiers with whiplashes, and get a weight savings, not a penalty. The whiplashes overlap with the rapiers for quite a bit, and adding more rapiers at the high end of the envelope often doesn't help much because thrust drops so rapidly when you get to the edge of the envelope.

    And of course many engines have disadvantages that the way you "engineer around them" is to not use them except in their niche. You don't engineer around a terrier's poor atmospheric Isp and TWR to make a 1st stage using them... you don't use them in that regime. Just like you don't use rapiers to go to Moho/Eve/Duna/Dres/Eeloo/Jool (though you may bring them there for Laythe)/Eeloo

    Admittedly, I don't use R.A.P.I.E.R.s much for many of the reasons you just described.  I find most spaceplanes I build tend to be built with high-thrust Whiplashes and a low-thrust, high ISP vacuum engine.  Instead of the long, slow speed build up of the R.A.P.I.E.R., I go for an aggressive ascent at a forty-five degree (give or take) angle where the Whiplashes can build a bunch of speed and send the plane into a suborbital trajectory on air-breathing thrust alone, then uses a long, slow burn from it's vacuum engines to circularize.

    Such a design is not, strictly, as efficient as more "elegant" spaceplane designs, but it gets the job done in a shorter amount of time and doesn't require quite a fine-tuned an ascent pattern.  It deals with more drag, but it also gets out of the draggy part of the atmosphere quicker and before spending too much fuel fighting it.  It would burn up if it had to fly like that most of the time, but since it gets out of the atmosphere quickly, that's less of an issue for it.  A small radiator can help bleed the heat off one it escapes the air.

  7. It's a balance of utility.  The R.A.P.I.E.R. isn't a very good (lower) atmosphere air breathing engine, nor is it a very good vacuum LFO engine.  However, it does both of those things for a very modest amount of mass compared to mounting multiple engines that do only one of those things.  And nothing else quite compares to it for building surface-tangential speed during higher atmospheric flight.

    I do admit sometimes being a bit frustrated at it's lack of thrust in the lower atmosphere, which often requires either lots more R.A.P.I.E.R.s than strictly necessary for most of it's flight or additional Whiplashes to help push it into it's ideal envelope, both of which involve a big tradeoff in mass, or giving it a RATO system.  But hey!  If it didn't have some disadvantages, we wouldn't need to find interesting ways to engineer around it. :)

  8. Nebles Kerman was flown out to the southern Kerbin ice shelf to set up some additional solar panels and collect some barometric data to fulfill a contract.

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    Unlike the last disastrous attempt, I had since upgrade my spaceplane hanger so it could have more than thirty parts on a plane.  I set the plane up with a duel-wheel gear setup to better absorb the weight of the plane when it touches down (assuming all four tires impact the landing surface at the same time.) But I wasn't sure that would work, so I added about four parachutes on the wings and engine nacelles to allow it a vertical soft landing.  And just to be safe (since the landing gear on the last one got too warm after extended flight) I added some radiators to the top of the engine nacelles (you can see them still glowing hot even after landing in the screenshot above.)

    23 hours ago, The Doodling Astronaut said:

    Doesn't surprise me...

    Dres

    Dres is the dwarf planet that no one remembers

    (MY 200TH POST)

    Today I learn about the never ever finished planet Harvest!

    So they got to you too.  Open you mind, keeple!

     

  9. 2 hours ago, Stewcumber said:

    Yes please I am very rusty!

    Looking at your Minmus lander, I see it has some tail fins on it.  That's great if you're going for aesthetics, but it does make the mission a little more difficult.  They only add a little mass, comparatively speaking, but they do add a lot of drag relative to the mass of the lander, and further that drag will tend to pull the lander into a prograde facing when in atmosphere.  That's fine if it was going up, but is going to work hard against you if you are trying to burn retrograde during aerobreaking.  I suspect this is why your lander came apart when you were returning, the drag wanted it to go in nose-first, which since that was a lower-drag profile and generates a less powerful detached shockwave than if you had been able to keep the "blunter" end of the craft in the prograde direction.  That detached shockwave can protect the more delicate parts from the worst effects of atmospheric compression (this is why so many return capsules and heat-shields have these broad bowl shapes on the side that goes in first.)  So unless your really attached to the look, lose the fins on the lander.

    Now, the ascent is another matter.  You want all the drag at the back of the craft and little drag at the front.  You had the entire lander exposed on the way up, and all those little different pieces which aren't necessarily flush with one another is going to add a lot of drag on the nose.  That can make it harder to control.  You can overcome that with even more fins at the bottom, but that's kind of inelegant.  Instead, I recommend you use an appropriately sized fairing to cover the lander.  If you haven't played since fairings were introduced, they're a vertex-generated part where the user can define their exact shape by building them in sections, they can cover up more draggy elements, and they're staged so the fairing panels can be burst apart when you're out of the draggiest parts of the atmosphere and the upper-stage stuff can be deployed.  Because the user can define the fairing's exact shape, it's possible to make the drag even worse if you make it too blunt, but so long as the fairing is tapered gently it should help cancel any drag caused by the shape of the lander itself, concentrating more drag at the bottom of the launch vehicle and making the ascent easier to control.

    Also a few nose-cones on the solid fuel boosters wouldn't hurt.  :)

  10. 5 minutes ago, Stewcumber said:

    A few boosters and an extra Skipper and we're good to go (albeit slowly).

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    Nice mission you ran!  I love those high-science single returns.  Mind if I offer a little design advice to help you get up into space and back to Kerbin with less trouble?

  11. On 6/5/2019 at 10:45 PM, Fearless Son said:

    Still early in my Breaking Ground career.  Built an early-career science plane that I'm pretty proud of because it looks kind of cool.  Taking it to the south pole for a contract and to deploy some of the new science stations while I'm at it.

    Realized I recovered my landed plane before getting my final reading, so I have to fly back to the south pole.  Also I might not have brought enough power for the monitoring station, so it was an excuse to drop off more solar panels.  Unlocked the next node in the aircraft line of the tree, so I could use a design with Whesleys instead of Junos, which resulted in cutting the cruising time in half.

    ... unfortunately, there were some unforeseen complications on arrival. The fixed landing gear was heating up by the end of the trip, the atmospheric friction building heat just slightly faster than it could radiate it away.  That, in itself, wasn't a danger since the heat built slowly enough I could be a quarter of the way around the planet before they got dangerous, but landing proved a disaster.  I had to reload to quicksave over and over again, because every landing would be a crash.  The plane handled fine, glided at low speed (under 50 m/s,) was easy to keep the nose pitched slightly up and roll level so the rear tires hit the very level ice shelf first... and every single time the landing gear would explode, followed by most of the rest of the plane.  The earlier Juno-driven version didn't have this problem.  I finally had to accept a wash when the "best" version of the landing I could get was one in which both cockpits survived (even if nothing else did) so we could recover the crew safely.

    Going to have to revisit this once unlocking some better landing systems.  Or after I can afford to upgrade my SPH and runway over the first level version.

  12. Still early in my Breaking Ground career.  Built an early-career science plane that I'm pretty proud of because it looks kind of cool.  Taking it to the south pole for a contract and to deploy some of the new science stations while I'm at it.

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    [EDIT]: It took me more than an hour and a half to travel from KSC to the south pole in this thing.  *Shrug* Junos.  It also wants to nose-up slightly, which to be fair makes landing a little easier.  I need to drive it around on the ground to hit all the contract way points, but I'll do that tomorrow.

  13. All of the points you made in your original post @Xavven are most of the same reasons why I play stock as well.  I would also add on top of that, I want sharability to be a factor.  If I post a photo of something, I want people to look at it and think to themselves, "Yeah, I could build something like that," without having to wonder if they have the right parts for it or not.

    Because that's what I do when I look for cool pictures of constructions on this forum.  :cool:

    That having been said, I have used some very minimal informational mods from time to time.  For example, I've used Kerbal Alarm Clock so I can keep track of my transfer windows without accidentally skipping over them.  I tend to think of "time" as an in-game resource worth conserving or spending as needs be and try not to be wasteful with it, and so I plan for doing short-term missions that I can squeeze in while waiting for the next stage of a long-term mission, or overlapping long-term missions (like maybe sending a package of communication satellites burning to intercept Jool while I'm waiting for my crewed exploration mission to finish their transfer to Duna.)

    But nothing that would affect the reasons you stated.

  14. 10 hours ago, Xurkitree said:

    These special scatters are rarer than normal, but not very rare. If you have a rover, you can rover around for a few kilometers, until you find a small rock out of place. These small rocks are solid, so you can test whether its a terrain scatter or not by touching or driving through it.

    I love that this DLC has brought so much utility to having rovers.  :)

  15. Began a new career last night, as per my tradition whenever there is a new major content update.  Titled it "Kerbal Robotics Program", in honor of Breaking Ground.

    Nothing too spectacular to report, just doing the initial contracts and a few basic things to get enough science to get to orbital capacity.

    16 hours ago, Ron Devu said:

    So it looks like the idea of throttling back to avoid wasting fuel fighting aerodynamics is completely wrong! If you can fly without exploding, go max throttle for max results.

    That's been my experience ever since 1.0 came out.

    Prior to that, I would keep the throttle lower during ascent due to the "souposphere" nature of the atmosphere during the beta stage.  I might still do that if lifting off of Eve though, if only because the atmosphere there is so much thicker and hotter than on Kerbin.

  16. I would argue that KSP is pretty steep.  Not necessarily because of the game part of it though, but because of the simulation of orbital mechanics takes some time to get one's head around.  It's unintuitive to our Earth-born brains ("You mean I move further away from that other vessel when I thrust towards it?") and requires some readjustment of thinking.  The only "game" bit beyond that is some trial and error to figure out the proper weights and thrusts and the like to actually get anywhere or do anything, which can take a bit of experience before you get an intuitive handle on it.

  17. On 5/20/2019 at 4:43 PM, Nightside said:

    @St4rdust, can the hinges rotate freely (hang loose), or do they only move when under power?

    Glad to hear (from the other replies) that hinges can hang loose.  One of the things I always wanted to build was a tractor/trailer style of rover design, with a small high-torque engine segment and an attached mission module (be it cargo, passengers, communication equipment, mining drills, or what have you.)  You run into problems with a rigid-body design on uneven surfaces full of creators (like most non-atmospheric bodies) and having multiple segments that articulate lets it navigate those a bit more easily.

  18. Not any debris that was already in orbit, though I have come within a kilometer of getting decked by something orbiting the opposite direction.  That would have been a disaster.

    However, I have had launch vehicles destroyed by boosters that didn't peel away from the main body properly after decoupling.  Most of my booster coupling design is focused around mitigating that kind of risk without excess complication.

  19. Honestly, probably nothing more than I have already built.  

    But don't get me wrong!  That's not because I'm not excited for the DLC, I am in fact very excited!  However, I tend to play career exclusively, and I have a habit of starting a new career every time a new major change comes out.  So I have to creep up to the new content from the beginning again.  Feels like I appreciate it more after I have "earned" it, and building toward it gives me a new long-term objective to accomplish.

    That said, I'm especially excited this time because of all the new things to find and new ways to collect Science means that my journey up the tech tree will be a little more interesting, with a lot of little things I can do to work my way through it.

  20. On 5/20/2019 at 12:48 PM, theJesuit said:

    Achieve escape orbital velocity on the Mun with these things will allow for very inexpensive refeuler tankers.  If it is situated in just the right place you'll be able to fire back to Kerbin for an aerobrake to a reasonable orbit, with only a small amount of delta-vee required to circularise.  Why has noone done this before?  Oh wait... waiting for hinges :)

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    (The cover for the Russian edition of The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.)

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