TarkinLarson

I recently reinstalled the game and started a new career after a break. After unlocking probes I started to send a few out to the Mun and Minmus in practice runs for manned missions. I had intended on doing a jaunt around Minmus. Without ways of generating electricity I had disabled several batteries so I could wake up the probes at intervals and save power when nothing was happening. I began my thrust out to intercept Minmus. All was on plan until I had to stage to discard what remained of the final orbital stage at full throttle. But when it came to power down the rockets on my probe nothing happened. It was stuck on full throttle. I hadn't turned any batteries on!!! Oh well. I accepted that I'd have a Kerbol orbit in around 5 days and I let it be, knowing that I'd gain science from that earlier than I had expected.

Hello everyone, I played KSP when it was fairly early on, but burnt out at release and took a break. I've recently installed it with news of 1.0.5 coming and have been thoroughly enjoying myself again. I've started a new career and so far have got to orbit, orbited the Mun and have done some contracts to send satellites into certain orbits for practice. Although I use MechJeb (mainly just for DeltaV calculations) I haven't unlocked the later stages where it does all the hard work for you, so I'm still on manual flying. I must say the progression is now a bit better in career. I feel a bit happier doing things in an iterative process, step by step. This feels rather natural at the moment, and hopefully in 1.0.5 the contextual contracts will improve on this even more. I didn't think I'd come back to KSP for a long time, so good work to Squad for keeping it up with the updates!

Cheers. Ok I thought I might be going a bit too far with it. I wonder if the local effects might include increased humidity in cities. Then again I completely forgot that water vapour is a product of combustion so I bet the difference is negligible.

So, there's all this talk about hydrogen fuel cells being what cars will run on in the future. If all cars transferred from internal combustion to fuel cell what would the effect be on the earths water system? I know it's a (mostly) closed system but would there be less water in the ground, sea or lakes? Would there be more water in the air as vapour. How much water vapour would be released every day, month or year? Would this effect cloud formation or rain? Would taking the water from the sea cause extra salinity? Or am I getting this all wrong and the amount of energy we get from hydrogen so great and it's so efficient that we won't actually use that much water?

I agree there will never be zero gravity, but also agree with the above quote. Zero G/Micro G... in this context you're maybe being pedantic? You will perhaps notice that I do use the phrase micro g, interchangeably with zero g in my OP. I understand the difference, but felt that this debate should be about the effects of it on how humanity would develop biologically if there were many generations in space, without getting bogged down in the detail of 0G of 0.00000001G

Wait... didn't Russia sent that satellite up for a Gecko procreation experiment recently? I believe it also kept fruit flies and other things too? I believe they lost control of it and it's orbit would degrade in a few weeks.

Would all the liquid and nutrients needed for the fruit and plants flow in the correct way? I guess osmosis would work exactly the same, from and to areas of different concentrations. I guess there would be no 'up or down' for the plant except the direction of light, but I have a feeling that genes would dictate that things would grow in the right places though. I've never seen a watermelon grow over time. What shape are they when they are newly developed. Does this change with time? Do they start out spheres and then change to oblongs? Or the other way around?

Thanks for all the great responses. I was perhaps a little flippant in my original remarks. I was not confusing evolutionary changes per se with individual changes. I understand that there will be profound changes to individuals which may eventually lead to them not being able to existing in a 1g environment again, at least without (I assume) lengthy and gradual rehabilitation. Perhaps I also misclassified this as [biology] too. Being as there are many ethical dilemmas surrounding this and the lack of experimentation, I was looking for an estimation or even a slightly 'sci-fi' answers. I get that without actually doing this, we won't know. From what I've seen and read there will be many consequences. The ones that stand out to me are ones including development as a child as an intergral part... things like the inability to actually walk. That is very interesting. I hadn't even thought of that. Even development of the inner ear too!

Are there not any ideas or theories, not necessarily proof so far? Have there been any studies into other creatures reproducing in low/micro gravity situations?

Hypothetically... if one were to have several generations of people living in micro/zero gravity, and they had children, in micro/zero gravity and so on and so on, how would this affect their biology. Would our toes grow bigger so we can grasp onto the innards of space stations? would our legs shrink and be less powerful? would our heads and brains expand due to blood flowing out. I assume we'd be all bloated and have terrible hearts and maybe never be able to return to a full 1G environment without breaking bones and suffering cardiac failure? Would there be any other aspects that might change?

Surely, something you can do is to build the entire base in the editor. Then break it down into smaller parts for launch? Would that help a bit, unless that is something you already do? It will not compensate for the suspension/weight issue, but at least all the ports are completely lined up. You could always try to construct it on one of Minmus' flat 'seas' to test the sag of the suspension first.

I support you entirely in your statement. I was perhaps a little simplistic, but I just wanted to get across the point that sometimes things do change around us regardless of our intervention. A lot of people may (I have no proof or research on this, so it's anecdotal) instinctively want to keep everything the same, perhaps incorrectly. But, we need to do need to compensate for our actions, however it is within an already dynamic and ever changing environment. Trying to keep on track however, what would you propose as a solution to the OPs question? If in the case of a run-away non self repairing climate change/global warming, what interventions could humanity then do to cool or rectify the situation?

This sounds better. If the wind was blowing and you could not compensate then it would be your fault really. Randomly blowing up due to a lightning strike would be horrible.

I don't to upset you, but this has been in since 0.22. Check out the Wiki page for iterations of the nose cone, here To not be so negative though... it is used for atmospheric data. So you can get science from flying it around Kerbin or other planets with atmospheres.

That's answered a few of my questions. I was suggesting that gravity was an unusually 'weak' force in the context of the 4 fundamental forces (weak nuclear, strong nuclear, EM and Gravity). You explanation is a little simpler and often the simple ones are the best. I do enjoy that we (at least from your explanation) do not know why gravitons transmit momentum in the opposite direction. There's always something new to learn isn't there? No, I am British. My spell checker must be French . Thanks again.