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Thanks for the answers and suggestions. Would the linux version feature a still installable 1.04 though? Other than this is might try a completely clean 1.05... But i have little hopes, since BTSM was always very very very specifically tinkered to the current version, and I think I remember it not working with others...

I made a big mistake. I had a nice niche 1.04 separated from my Steam install of KSP sitting there with my most favourite mod: BTSM. The thing is, this mod was discontinued after 1.04. So far so good, yesterday (after nearly 3 years of not touching it) I wanted do indulge myself in some challenging space puzzling (which is basically what BTSM does to KSP). But the game would always crash on load... I tried it for nearly 20 times, in different compatibility modes. Nothing. No problem - so I though - I will just reinstall 1.04 though. But only 1.05 is available in the BETA section. What harm can it done, I though, and installed that. But now The game is not even crashing any more, it is hanging up.. So I besiege you: can you show me a way to revert back to 1.04? Many thanks in advance!

This is the reason i always kept two directories for KSP: An eternal 1.0.4. KSP with BTSM- that will perpetually stay in this state for the sole purpose of enabling me to play a challenging game. And the usually up-to-date KSP to just tinker around here and there. And ,yes, I am still in an active game of BTMS 1.0.4.

The important thing with "Better Than Starting Manned" (BTSM) is not so much that it indeed focusses on unmanned first. It is rather that it is a complete overhaul that enhances the campaign game in a way, that it REALLY becomes a challenge. Early on you have to solve "puzzles" as how to get the needed science progression - meaning you have to find a way to reach certain altitudes, science collection heights and the like with a VERY restricted selection of parts. And later on you have to very carefully plan missions, you really progress in steps out of the Kerbin system into the reaches of the other planets. Or in other words, it makes a game out of the space simulator. I like it very much and hope Flowerchild will continue it (yes, it is stuck in 1.04, but very much playable there)

Well, KERBAL ENGINEER REDUX never mentioned an off-balance when I constructed the craft, but when using the Duna-system-mobility egines, after an initial wobble they would induce a hefty torque and send the craft on a ca. 10 second rotation spin. This happened with SAS on, as without it. With RCS on, as without it. With a Reaction wheel running, as without it. To counter this I only used the engines in intervals, when the attitude of the craft was near my maneuver node marker. Later (with only ca 2-3 tanks) everything would behave nicely and balanced again.

thanks... I love the limitations BTMS puts onto you. So the only way to bring atmosphere analyser and an surface imager without having to invest too much weight was this little clam thing I created; and of course the decoupleable in-line GOO containers

Greetings! I am hooked on KSP as much as the great BTSM mod- which makes the simulation a game. A challenging and rewarding one! Before I take a break and wait for the new version to come out , i am posting here the photostory of the Duna system science mission. enjoy

First: congratulations on this mod! I absolutely adore the visual effects of it. Would and will never play without it. It adds so much more to the general atmo of the game And here comes a very special question: Is there a possibility to display the planet's/moon's name right next to it. And if so, in the HUD-less display (F2)?

returning to Kerbin on an eclipse... how's that for a picturesque coincidence?

some nice [visual] moments I had...

Thanks, I enjoy writing (and playing!) it Thank you kind sir

PRESENT TIME On the Mun The cabin's intercom filled with Henbrett's commentary. <<All three engines are gone. They compensated our crash energy so the lander took no additional damage...>> Jacky felt strangely comforted by his off the book approach to dealing with his duties as the flight engineer and science officer. Then he continued with energy levels. With RCS fuel values. And then he came to the state of the life-support system. <<About two hours...>> He did the calculations, Jacky knew, right after he checked the damage on the lander. In his technical voice his report stood in strange contrast to the direness of the consequences this message meant.The voice kept repeating in Jacky's head. Like a verdict in some absurd court, the engineers voice merging with the harsh bellowing of an uncaring judge. <<...about two hours...about two hours...about two hours...>> She felt like blacking out, all sounds fading. The image of her grandfather appeared before her inner eye, and she looked at him for what felt like ages. Then a smile appeared on his face. And something happened to her. She snapped out of her vision, and her mind was filled with a strange clarity. <<We are going to die here, aren't we, Henbrett?!>> <<That is what will happen when life support runs out.>> Jacky breathed in heavily, then exhaled with a long sigh. She made it to the Mün. This was her life long dream. She always wondered what would be left of her life once she achieved it. Now she knew: Two hours. BACK TO CONTENT

6 MONTHS AGO On Kerbin <<...is why the directorate and the scientific council of the KSA come to the conclusion that though agreeable important your proposed experiments can not be included to the „new manned study for Mün“. We deeply regret and again refer to the decision and statement of the council from...>> Henbrett let the letter glide through his hands. <<Those...those...imbeciles!>>, he shouted loudly. How could they? He began to tremble. O, he very well knew how the council came to their decision. He was not unaware of how the system worked. All members were in one or many way associated with the big five scientific organizations, and each had their share of experiments, which conveniently were deemed „scientific sound“ and „important enough“ to get a ticket for the mission. So the report says. But his research really was. Recent analysis of the suggested, that Mün and Kerbin were quite similar in the way there core was behaving. His experiment meant to find a conclusive answer to the most pressing question of how earthquakes could be predicted- and for someone from Eastern Kerban where in the last decade hundreds of thousands died due do not being warned this was not just of academic value. This was for saving lives.But this was not going to happen. He was not scheduled for the primary mission - and now his science was neither. BACK TO CONTENT

Technical Update ( time: Y1 D67 8:55:03 **STOP** location: orbit around Mün **STOP** "manned study for Mün command module" **STOP** NO landing gear **STOP*** commander alive **STOP** electricity ~ 9:00 hrs **STOP** life support ~ 1:02:33 days **STOP** BACK TO CONTENT

PRESENT TIME Around the Mün Jedwin felt guilty. She felt guilty since the lander module test on Kerbal failed 3 months ago. For she thought it was her fault. Of course she knew she wasn't really responsible - and Adam Kerbal, hero of all Kerbalhood, already took the blame for this failure. But she felt that she missed something, that it wasn't a piloting error. And moreover that she missed the one opportunity to point out her suspicion. That this whole mission was too hastily conceived, too much powered by political ambition and not grounded on scientific and engineering necessities. For FSM's sake, they still called the whole mission vehicle a „study“. Now she circled the Mün in the command capsule of the „manned study for Mün“ - well semi-circled since the mission protocol specifically asked for an elliptical orbit. Only a few moments ago the the lander departed and her heart sank into her boots. She missed the opportunity to spot the wonderous sight of the Kerbin-rise, and she would have been the first person to experience it. All she could think about was the catastrophe that occurred a few minutes ago. <<Command Module, this is Münar Lander, please come in!>> <<Münar Lander, this is Command Module. Jacky? Henbrett? Did you make it? Are you on the Mün?>> <<Command Module, this is Münar Lander. Jedwin, we made it. It is so beautiful.>> Then her voice faded, and when she continued her voice was filled with desparation<<...but Jedwin, we have a problem.>> <<Wait, wait...what? Don't tell me the lander broke?>> <<We have a problem with...for FSM's sake what did you you say? How could you know?>> <<Jacky, this mission was doomed from the beginning, it never was a piloting error by Adam. Jacky, the lander was never properly designed to land>> The com went silent. <<Jacky, I am so sorry...>> BACK TO CONTENT

ONE YEAR AGO On Kerbin Adam as every child knew, was the first Kerbal. In space, that is. Since his historical flight only one year had passed, his fame however never declined. You could outright say it orbited Kerbin. In every aspect he was the KSA's poster boy. So the political authorities made him the lead instructor for the upcoming and most important of the projects of the KSA: The manned Mün landing. And though he felt himself having shortcoming when it came to training others - which would have normally made him refuse the position - it came with some enticement. As the academy's Director put it: <<Make a small step into that classroom, and you will get to make the giant leap onto the Mün>> Well, this he knew, was something he very well could do. For FSM sake, that is what he wanted to do! But the teaching of those cadets? He felt more pressure on himself than any centrifuge test ever exerted on him. He glanced around the classroom, when his eyes fell on the red-haired Kerbal. <<And you? What do you think you are doing here?>> <<I'll be the first Kerbal on the Mün>> Jacky said. You don't know squat about politics, little girl, Adam thought with some sadness... BACK TO CONTENT

Technical Update (A) time: Y1 D67 8:50:03 **STOP** location: 3° 45' 43'' N 427° 56' 40'' W **STOP** "manned study for Mün lander" crash-landed on Mün in Farside Crater **STOP** pilot + science officer alive **STOP** engines destroyed **STOP** electricity at ~ 3000 units ~ 3:03 hrs **STOP** life support at 142 units ~ 2:33 hrs **STOP** BACK TO CONTENT

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PRESENT TIME On the Mün A flash. A bang. Then nothing. A memory... >>But why can't I go to the Mün, pops?<< >>The Mün, little Jacky, is too far away. We can't just go there. No plane can fly that far. And no building reaches high enough. Your grandpa will take you the Münar Park tomorrow, if you promise to go to sleep now<< >>I will go to the Mün, pops, and you can come too!<< Darkness. Mechanical Humming. Slowly Jacky Kerman slid back into consciousness. She kept her eyes closed shut and tried to orientate. The first thing she noticed was the silence. No alarm sounded, no structural components creaked, nothing - just the faint humming of the lander's life support system. Jacky was surprised. She did not know what to expect, after their Münar lander had set down. At least setting down was what should have happened, but the terrible bang and crushing sound a few minutes ago was what they learned back at KSA to be the kinetic-to-elastic-energy-transformation. Or simply: a crash. Her back hurt, she had difficulties to breath. Yet her body seemed to float, the weight of the deceleration GEES all but vanished and Mün's gentle pull was all she could feel. And her heavy breath. And her hurting back. Through the observation window she saw the sloped planes of the Farside Crater opening in front of her. She made it, they made it. The first Kerbals on the Mün... She suddenly realized, where she was, what had happened. And who else was supposed to be there. In panic she turned around but could not make anything out in the dim light of the Münar lander's emergency illumination. In panic one thought raced through her mind:Henbrett is dead! >>Henbrett...O my FSM...please, please no...o please FSM, no....<< No response came from the science and flight officers console. >>Henbrett, are you there? Henbrett? HENBRETT! O my FSM! Answer me!<< >>Mhhmhhmmhhhh?<< A groaning came from behind her, roughly from the direction of the East-Kerbian's seat. >>Oh thank FSM! You are alive! You are alive- WE are alive!<< A seemingly confirmatory grunt came out of Henbrett's part of the lander. >>Mhmhmm...where are we?<< >>Henbrett – we did it, we really did it, we are here! Henbrett- WE ARE ON THE MÜN! Pops...I made it!<< BACK TO CONTENT

I probably will never be able to do the crazy he did...Do you know how much dv that would cost?

Well, we'll see

Greetings. I ran into FlowerChild's splendid mod Better Than Starting Manned [bTMS], and it proves to be THE challenge, the career mode should pose. As I tried to enrich this wonderful puzzle solving plug-in with more role-playing elements (FinalFrontier, Texture for Heads, ScanSAT-science disabled) I started to grow fond of my little Kerboys and Kerbgirls. Now I run into a nice problem, having just made my first Münar landing, which resulted in a rather harsh hitting the Münar ground. With no engines left to take off- they blew up in the crash- I have 2 Kerbanauts , boy and girl, stranded on the Mün. With only 2:30 hours of life-support. Generally I would just say: oh damn, I screwed up, they die, I design a better ship and return to the Mün. And then just grab the science points on the second attempt. But something must have happened along my constant enhancing of this game. All this new mods, the nice images, the two genders, the tracking of personal Kerbanaut's achievements - they did something to me...I fell in love with my Kerbanauts, I feel responsible. I put two Kerbals on the Mün and their lander is broken? Well, I better get them back, alive! They did the science for me on that barren rocks surface, and they deserve to bring it to the Kerbal Science Society! Outside of horrible accidents (for science!) no Kerbal shall die on my watch! So I will stage a rescue mission- the greatest task undertaken by [my] Kerbals so far - and thought, I will make a little story out of it. I hope you enjoy it 2 Kerbanauts, 1 Lander - 0 means to return! [TABLE=width: 80%] [TR] [TD=align: right]Chapter [/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]Technical info[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: right] I PRESENT TIME On the Mün II ONE YEAR AGO On Kerbin III PRESENT TIME Around the Mün IV 6 MONTHS AGO On Kerbin V PRESENT TIME On the Mün [/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD] A B [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [TD=align: center][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] UPDATE: Normal replies will be this font Story parts will be this font technical info to shed light on the situation will be this font