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Unless you consider thick fermented stews. Those could be refreshed like sourdoughs and if you really wanted to watered down into a drink. They could be made then into bottle beer on a daily basis. Those are some of the oldest beers and ferments. Coincidentally always kept by the women just like in Egypt and Japan and other cultures until we dumped it more recently. Japan/korea still has this culture to some extent. There were distinct female religious groups. I wonder if it's related. Maybe their deity has something to do with these types of things. I think something I read said one of the deities was related to similar agricultural or something and was headed by woman exclusively. Could be a link. This is post edit from scotius statement. But a thick stew like beer is basically a concentrate and or yeast colony. You don't need a lot of it. And you can make it go very far. Any signs of yeast or similar in this king/queen chamber boxes? Although you may make the ferments in slightly warmer temperature. But you could bring it back in after getting it to the desired stage and store in a cellar environment for production and adding to things to help make beer. I read something about people using heated rocks and similar in reproduction beer from medieval periods to reproduce boiling for beer. Assuming the beer was done that way. maybe they did that in the kings chamber and then sent it on down the line to a different layer. The temperatures might help with cooling.

Actually capitalism isn't original economic in the sense of trade/ modern currency. It originates from farming. It's comes from and originally refers to the need on farms to make things in abundance to make it through various circumstances. It means to grow more than needed. it's more recently dealt with in a pure monetary fashion in books isolated from it's more complex original meaning. It's a natural need originating in agriculture. Think Jeffersonian agricultural ideals. Yea it depends who was drinking.

I'm pretty sure the pyramid was supposed to have been payed for and it was voluntary. It was probably good pay or something. I think some things have said there was no real heavy slavery in eqypt and it was built on things like organized work with pay and volunteer work or contracts. https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/06/5000-year-old-pay-stub-shows-that-ancient-workers-were-paid-in-beer/ I imagine the beer the got payed in was a giant cask sized thing and not a little bottle like today. Cheapest 5 liters kegs I can find online are 20 bucks. Probably empty. If not they go up to 80 dollars or much more for metal containers. Probably irrelevant. But still they are getting paid 20-80 dollars a day in beer. Liquid sustenance. And it was probably not the light beer we have to day. It was probably as thick as your pourage. Which if desired could probably be turned into a drink in water or used to cook bread and meals. In a world of farmers they could probably get vegetables and other things they needed if they didn't have it. I wonder how long they worked a day for this. Sounds like a sweet deal regardless.

Beer was just an example. Anything with cellars can do. But beer was probably the most important to daily life. it was also a catchy title as I thought it might be interesting if it was a giant beer making machine. and if it turned out the bible was the story of beer. I think that I've actually heard that from somewhere before. it's not a new idea. Not sure if it was a religious source or a beer source. That and if the aquifers are really there under the pyramid that is fresh water for beer making etc. It could just be a giant place like a bottle plant or some staging in production. Except in big clay jugs or something. maybe they did different brewing things in each chamber that didn't need as much added per batch. Then it was taken down stairs for general addition. Say adding the water stage after mixing with a thicker sludge. Each chamber had an addative to be added and the basement was the water adding a bottling area. Then it was taken to underground areas for storage and whatnot. Example: Kings chamber had one addetive in the large tomb thing. You only needed a cup per giant vat so you didn't need as much production but the room was big enough for constant manufactureing. The sled goes down the room and a guy runs down with a pitcher and throws some in a giant vat of materials as it heds down t the bottom in one container. The rest are the rest of the materials going down. At the queens chamber something similar happens. All the ingredients are taken to the basement for production and bottling. All added mixed etc. Since it's about the gods. maybe the gods are a story about the production if inferred correctly. The Pharaohs sole going to heaven is already similar to a cask loosing essence. Maybe this was true of each chamber for it's special ingredient. Some peoples ideas are that the pyramid channels/air ducts from those chambers were exposed during construction. IE the tunnels to the sky from king/queen chamber that are capped now were used during construction atn exposed in early construction. Maybe they made the beer in pyramid as it was built. The most of the building usage would be at the lowest chambers hypothetically. Maybe that is how they paid the workers. It is a building with an estimated minimum 20 year build time. Even at that number it would be insanely useful to do everything on sight. Especially if it's related to the building itself. The best reason to pay in beer is if you are making a building to make beer. At least as convenience goes.

It could be similar to the same thing with most pottery. By the time you do that much work it's not that much harder to decorate relatively(sometimes as markers or whatnot.). Plus it usually stores knowledge in a different form and is an example for others to learn from later. Most religion and similar things were education originally. They had practical reasons to exist originally. Art and everything like it go with that grouping as it is pure geometry or material application or other things. This is likely why cave paintings existed. It was a visual story etc. Probably along with verbal stories. Plus quality of life is important to some extent. Although harder living conditions you to not need quite the same things. There could be a lot of reasons. One example could be like bread where bread decorations were from, at minimum, communal ovens and you needed to see your bread from the other peoples. maybe if it was near a port at the time it was a give away(a large one) for sailor or travellers to see where they were or something. Big can be useful. And never underestimate multi purpose things in older construction(or older things in general). The more you can pack into something the better it is to make. Unless it really needs to be specialized.

Why are you expecting me to answer that? Hypothesize!

It would have to do with keeping cellar range temperatures. The top would have to do with wind blockage or some type of production stage or something potentially. Max cellar temperature is about 70 degrees. They could have easily also done things like cheese storage and vegetable storages. You can never have too much redundancy when it comes to food storage. There is one easy way to make a cellar at home you can find online atm. It involves storing things in wet sand in cellar tempuratures. ;d

There is the potential of vast underground things connected to the pyramid. If they used those like storage(cooled underground cellar storage) and the pyramid was the giant production, or part of the production, then who knows. That could hypothetically be a lot of storage. All you need is a hall and then some inlets in the walls and you have a heck of a large cellar. Let alone carving any side rooms etc. The idea of a library under the sphinx could make sense if it was part of cooling specifically the make older or original manuscripts last as long as possible. Maybe it had to do with preserving specific particularly long lasting types of paper or something. Or speciality paper/parchment that lasted nearly forever under those circumstances. What better way to store food and perishables in a desert than underground. It's literally where you store it in every other climate already.

I'm surmising if the pyramid was a brewery or something like it. It has potential convenient qualities and the lack of qualities of a tomb. If they payed in beer they would have already had other means of production. Normally/always these things start in the family and work outwards after they are perfected from mass common use. BTW, the farther back you go the more religion and agriculture and other things are combined into one. Most older religion was for reproduction because of society developing and reducing sex drive(temple prostitutes, even mandatory use of them) and things like time keeping to know when to plant crops as agriculture developed. Knowing your seasons is the single most important thing to growing food. Maybe they made it on sight. Could have been part of the workforce somehow. That or had smaller brewery and craftsman by the time. If the payed in beer as a planned thing or it was normal at the time I'm sure the project planners or something knew well ahead of time what they needed to do. Project design/engineering has basically never changed as a profession. It's just thinking things out ahead of time. And how to adjust a project to needed change, which is the same skill.

The entire history of egypt is this sort of things. It would not sound weird. It was the norm. What you are stating is a silly modern viewpoint from modern standards and extremely simplified and unrealistic. All agrarian societies understand these details. He wouldn't be king for long if he was that stupid. You have to consider translation of both language and concepts. It helps if you understand things related to agrarian culture personally. Those things don't change as quickly. Beer and bread are the same thing.(Bread just has a lot more grain in it basically. By very modern definitions.) The stuff we have today is a very narrow example of what used to exist. I'm not stating this as a guess. I know this personally. We have fridges so we don't have to worry and make it in a certain form(as far as potential short term storage afterwords.). There is no difference between beer and wine either. They are slight changes in a same product/process. It depends totally on what way they made it and what they called beer back then. https://vinepair.com/beer-101/guide-aging-beer/ This is the key. Most are brewed for this. They pick specific ways to make it where this is the case. Beer can literally be a sludge as thick as clay. When you do that for instance you can refresh it, literally like a sourdough. Those types of things are around for and entire families history. There are probably 1000 year plus old ones on this earth or much older. They are never thrown out potentially. it depends completely on what type you make and what you choose to label it as. They still have them in Japan for instance even though they aren't called beer. They could have also crafted formulas just for ageing and storing etc. It's not difficult if they knew anything about what they are doing and had to over time. If they built something as big as a pyramid to do you can rest assured they had been doing it along time and new what to go for. And they would have known for a long time.

I'm not saying the king had a brewery. I'm saying it was a brewery for the entire city/country. They payed in beer. It could be currency. And No it does not spoild in cellar tempuratures. That is how you age all alcohols. I know how to make alcohol and can and bake. Trust me. There can also be many kinds of beer and recipes. If it was more like an ale or similar it could be aged for a long time depending on how they made it. It's only beer in name. https://www.craftbeer.com/craft-beer-muses/cellaring-craft-beer-to-age-or-not-to-age Some of the stuff on older beer from babylon was a type taht was thick like pourage. This is less a beer and more a refreshable pot of stuff like a sourdough. They still have that type in japan. They have literally been around in a single bowl for hundreds of years and endless generations. They are always done by the women.

I'm assuming the beer was local. Beer in older times was very valuable because it's preserved grains. It's literally storing grain in liquid form and can last much longer than dried grains. it's invaluable locally. That is why they used it. Same with all cultures since. It has endless benefits also like being safe drinking water. it's also a good cooking ingredient if you have enough to improve food and bread and other things. It's also potentially a yeast colony for non flat bread like a sourdough starter. There is a much larger list of uses. Preserving food is the single most important thing both then and now. It's literally a life and death issue. Even if the kings chamber was only so big. It could be for a specific stage in brewing or something odd. then it could be moved and processed in another place for another stage etc.

That is why I'm saying it makes more sense if it's about industry or similar. If you consider long term gains it's easier to justify a massive building project made of local to semi local materials if it's going to bring greater ease of living and other things for the entire nation. It's much more justifiable. Especially if it's design is actually completely necessary for the task in the environment and/or there is a massive need for it at the time. If you consider the Nile may have went up to the pyramids at the time(IE it was build on it's banks) you also add the ease of water travel during construction. It was also a heavy agrarian society. Those tend to not mess around with needless things as much. It would be much harder to justify something wasteful. Even expensive tombs and religious things in older religions had a tendency or beyond to be about education and preserving knowledge or about something very practical otherwise. It would be like if Washington monument were build to be studied by math/history, and other classes for the rest of time. Or much more complicated.

Rulership is filled with having to deal with your own people. It's far more realistic to solidify your rule with projects for your country. It's much harder to argue over. And in a harsh environment it's more sound and possibly very needed. You can play hero by invading an enemy to get things. Loosing lives. Or you can do it by building things locally to do the same and get resources and bring prosperity. There were a lot of prosperity stories about Egyptians kings at the time. It's the origin of Egypt according to Egypt. They originally came to power by saving Egypt from nature not outward enemies. It's also much easier to make an army after that to get things from other countries as you have more leverage to gather forces.

He goes on about it being an unfinished pyramid. But something interesting dawned on me. It's very potentialy convenient for one things important and possibly annoying in Egypt. Grinding! If it's 75 feet down it could be to stop winds. If so maybe it's not unfinished but purposely capped to slow down wind and possibly add lesser structures for wind power or animal power along with lots of possible animal drawn mechanical rope type rigging with buckets/baskets for getting stuff out easy. It also looks like a modern makeup thing in the middle. So, maybe not even grain. They could go through the expense for either mass constant grain grinding or for something more valuable like dyes or other things they wanted mass amounts of or could sell. It could be stone based mass production. If you take this farther and the great pyramid was something like the worlds largest hopper and grinder maybe that explains why nobody seems to be upset for the most part and why they helped. If they were all farmers they could have been helping make a massive town/city mill they could all send their stuff to to grind down for the populous. If you take into animal labor for trnasport and possible pay for services later, this would be a nice setup for something they are very dependent on. What if all those fancy stone traps in the pyramid or for weather purposes or something so it doesn't get flooded in rare rainy times to keep stuff dry. Those whole could all be for hopper activities to a main grinding chamber or rope for rigging animal power or something odd. Maybe the odd temperature control or other features potential to the pyramid were useful for some industrial activity. Including potential electric lights or helping dry grains if water was used in the grinding. It's possible the overly large stone structures were a basic necessity for long term sights given sand movements and other changes normal in the desert. I'm hinting this could both storage or other grinding technology and potentially amortar and pestle. If it was for something like massive storage for very valuable purple/red dyes for royalty or or other industry it could make sense. He also says some of the blocks are rose granite instead of normal. Is this useful for any type of similar activity over the other materials? It makes a path from the center container to the stairs. What could this have been useful for? On top of this, if you take into account the idea of the Nile moving it might make sense if these were all practical constructs. If it went right up to the great pyramids it could have been very convenient in it's time. And later constructs could be for other purposes or re-purposing of other things. Cellar technology is as old as time if I'm not mistaken and the know how of how to use similar things is very old and primitive in nature. It's not unreasonable to have it translate to as many uses and styles as possible. Along with anything derived from it or similar. Especially if it's important for things like drying grains or produce which is also old and potentially annoying in a desert, windy, sandy environment. Maybe the great pyramid was only partially done at one point and then built up. Or built in a way needing more complete construction or protection. Let along a tall smooth object with the potenial to drop things into it from shafts. Shafts also related to astronomy which is related to farming. Those shafts could be to watch seasons like a clock and then the building used to also deal with grain grinding on a larger scale for city folk, selling to other nations, storage on top of other means. Underground and it's relation to water reserves could be for different type of grinding methods. maybe even for a lot of different substances. There is the story in the bible related to similar. Might not be far fetched. It doesn't necessarily go into a lot of detail about more than storing a lot of grain for the 7 year famine. It could even create a line of logic to where they got the pyramid design if it lines up time wise. Jews(Abraham etc) came from Babylon that had ziggurats. Pyramids are basically different styles of those buildings in a way. No idea about the timing though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziggurat_of_Ur Abraham came from Ur according to the bible. These stories, before the bible goes into it's major subjects and time periods, has almost nothing else to go over subject wise. It's really narrowed in scope and a bit focused. If it has significance it would make sense. Why is it so important he came from UR etc...? It doesn't focus on much besides, Abraham leaves Ur, wanders, has kids/descendants. One kid gets dropped in a well by his brothers and saves Egypt from famine after becoming a leader just below the pharaoh himself. Later I think it jumps to Moses(who is thought to be Ramses by some) after a long period of time who brings them out of Egypt after having grown into a larger population or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7z58CQ9JBk We are forgetting the most important potential thing related to cellars and grain.. BEER! ;d What if it was part of beer production on a mass scale! Who wouldn't help make the biggest beer brewery in history(could explain how it was built in 20 years!!). Beer is considered liquid grain in the ancient world(even modern history). Less prone to disease and preserves nutrients.. Think about it! If the pyramids have pure spring water underneath and god knows what else. In alcohol making the stuff you loose is considered the angels portions. Possibly similar to the idea that the pharaohs sole going to heaven potentially!! ;d Mind you, alcohols can be aged for a very long time. If they had the ability to fill the pyramid or something and need to store beer for the long run the doorways closing could have to do with sealing in areas or stopping airflow for the aging process or some odd things. It seals off the center area almost completely at the tunnels and bottom shaft. But leaves the main opening.. Does this logically stop any action like air flow given the known designs? Can anything obvious be deduced given the way it's sealed off? Even if part of the aging process left beer aging in the pyramid before another stage or transport to another area it could be logical to locally store it for a period. Maybe there was a need to very thoroughly seal it temporarily for things related to this or other activities. And then all those rumors of underground pathways between everything. That screams cellar storage. Both books and food potentially. I wonder what conditions stored ancient paper best. Maybe they should put things like the paper used for scrolls and old fashion beer containers of various sorts in the pyramid in different locations and see how they are affected long term(without making a mess obviously). It could be a cool experiment! ;D https://www.ancient.eu/article/223/beer-in-the-ancient-world/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwycGS8pExM If they combined purposes and used astrology/astronomical and manufacturing together(common potentially for agricultural related things) it could have multiple functional reasons to exist. Also, water in low area submerging potentially sealed containers. Could be a cooling chamber also. Also, the length of that walkway reminds me of a greek qoute. It's something about giving the man a lever long enough and he can move the world. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Archimedes One other things involving grinding. Inks. If you use scrolls you need inks and paints. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moALNibb4h0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMGw0QQZUKM <- refrigeration. BTW, if the kings chamber is a constant 68 degrees that is normal cellar temperatures. Useful for many many things. FYI cellar technology has existed since before written history. It uses the ground. Some of the simplest forms involve putting things in sealed clay jugs under the ground or under ash in a pit etc. It's likely the oldest known form of preservation(That or salts maybe?!) and has probably existed in all civilizations since the beginning of mankind.

I disagree. Maybe the, "father," was giving parental care. It was early job training. All that bird is going to do the rest of his life appears to be kicking leaves. Maybe it was all the training he needs for his long lived life. If it was a female it's imprinting to know what to look for in a good male. 8) Female: "I look for good man turkey that kick me in face with leaves like father turkey!" Which wasn't her father and she looks the world over looking for the apparent lack of similarity to that father bird. This leaves us with a chicken or egg situation. Was it the mother or father that started this trend?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-B2gcvFWyc I was watching this first if anyone is interested or it makes this make sense. I bring you some of my youtube boredom binges. >< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZGAyD6nURg And this before that. I forgot about this one. 8d (turkey training!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPXQllMyRQI

Can this be done in stock to any degree. I never figured much about the buoyancy side of the game. Besides that going below like -300 automatically blows you up for some stupid reason and doesn't let me explore even when I successfully make a craft that can go where ever I want... I was hoping there were easter eggs down there. 8\

I was wrong. It was going SW. (work in progress) Planes flying in the correct direction: Boeing 737(767) Bombardier CRJ Airbus Regional-Jet MD Yea it was probably just an ordinary airliner. I was hoping it was something more interesting.

No canards on the front. Front was like a soft triangle from the wings.

it was flying directly overhead almost. Yea it may have been going to a nearby airport. Lots of planes usually go in many direction over me. This is kind of close to it potentially. It's hard to say. It was higher up and small. Although the nose may have been fatter and more triangular but not by much. possilby fatter, slightly shorter, front similar proportions. it's could have been a B-1. I was just surprised how quite it was. The wings would not have been all the way back. But they were not too far forward. There was a completely silent helicopter one day going overhead too, but we don't like to talk about that.

Rear of the wing was angled like the front but not the same angle. Not a delta wing. The more I see the B-1 from the bottom the more it has a potentially similar silhouette. I can't remember what the engine pods or rear looked like... My memory is fantastic for this sort of things. I was looking at something about the NASA experiment but it was from several years ago. I thought maybe it was flying overhead or something.

B1 bomber looks a bit like it. But I think the nose was thicker. Hard to remember. It gets so fuzzy so quick. 8\ Although the B-1 does look fatter from the bottom of the nose. Do they normally fly completely silent. I'm used to planes making more noise. Might be from many of them landing at an airport.. There is an airport somewhat near me that does have an air force base attached to it.

The clouds are covering the whole sky atm as far as the eye can see. Not sure. It's total coverage above me with no sun. complete forcast. Although the clouds have finally changed to higher solid with little puffy clouds below. And you can see the sun now through the higher clouds. You could not see the sun at all when it went over.

I didn't get a picture or anything but has anyone seen a completely silent aircraft flying below cloud level. It had swept back wings and a bit of a triangular nose. Totally silent. I was looking up through a window and saw it. It was flying under heavy clouds. It didn't quite look like a normal passenger plane. But it looked to be around the same size. I saw something on NASA quite plane but it's nose it too long. It was a midway between these two planes: It was definitely near or around passenger plane size. Maybe between 747 and smaller versions and a triangular looking front with some level of swept wings. Totally silent. If I wasn't looking up I would not have seen it. Also couldn't tell if it gave of trails as it was flying below thick clouds(under total cloud cover and no sun.). I think it was heading S or SE. I think the nose was shorter than the top picture but maybe longer than the bottom picture. Hard to make out details. It was not a normal passenger plane though. The nose either wasn't thin or it had a wing edge making it look triangular on the way forward. And the swept wing was more pronounced from the front. I can't remember how much. Probably by a good 45 degrees or more. It was not a continuous wing edge all the way back. At least not where the wings started to protrude. But it may not have been that steep either.

Define the word astronaut thoroughly and you have the answer technically. What is the word and where does it come from? What languages are it derived from and what do those word fragments mean?