I have not seen that challenge thread, so thanks for pointing me in the right direction, definitely some good ideas in there! While it is certainly possible to go there and back without any refueling, it doesn't seem to be practical for any crew onboard, which is something I consider in my selectively "realistic" mindset. Often means SSTOs/any craft become bloated with extra, unoccupied cabin space if the trip is anywhere outside the Kerbin SOI. There are still plenty of things I wish to explore before that grand feat, so I hope to get squeeze some gravity assist practice in to make sure my burns out there are as minimal as possible. Here is a very small album of some recent KSP adventures. Currently on a newish save right now, first thing I did was set up a com-sat network using my KD-A3 Pegasus, an SSTO with ability to deploy small payloads into LKO. Regarding my rockets are for losers statement, I definitely love them and continue to use them, I just find it funny to try and get by without them in a game that is essentially about them, proving the sandbox nature of KSP. Being an aviation nut doesn't help either. I can only hope people don't take a silly statement like that as anything more than what it is, a joking prod. I also stream on occasion, but I'll find the appropriate outlet to post that in whenever I'm active, as it is rare enough. But yeah, feels nice to find a forum that is all about the game you love, and the topics it involves. I've been part of a Halo forum for 10 years, moderating 1/3 of that time. Surviving community was small and solid, but also stagnant, as many of us literally outgrew the game that brought us together, leading to mostly OT discussion, with me often talking aviation or space. Seems like I was definitely fishing in the wrong hole!