vikram_gupta11

Ok I will not post here . thank you

You are right but a front force on the front part will be grater than back force on back part in this design and the front force will work as a brake to stop the system in normal again. I also have done many experiments on a perpetual machine and it will work so I think that Newtons laws are going to break. I would like to know that can I post my concept in this thread regarding a perpetual motion machine or not to convinced you that there are some mistakes in Newton Laws to clear your doubts.

Dear Sir,just do a simple experiment .Take a Rubber band and try to stretched it with your hands and it will be stretched .Now take the help of an another person to catch this stretched rubber band in middle with the help of fingers .now release the right part of the rubber band but remember the left part of the rubber band must not be released( still in stretched position) only released the right part .when you will release the right part of the rubber band then the person will feel a propelling force working on pushing his fingers in left direction of stretched rubber band.this is very simple and it will take only a few seconds to understand this concept completely.

you all are right but I have a question that suppose if the iron balls could reduce its velocity with itself and hit with electromagnet with low velocity then this engine will move or not? suppose the iron ball is expelling with 5 meter/second speed from Gun system and is hitting the electromagnet or a wall with 2 meter /second velocity then this device should work or not? If a object is out from a system then it will be not a part of the system. suppose I and you are standing on a roller skating and there is 10 meter distance between us .I stand on the front part and you stands on the end part.Now I'm throwing a ball with the velocity of 5 meter/ second and in reaction the roller skate will move towards front side with you but ball is still in the air (for a moment untill you catch it) and its velocity has reduced from 5 to 3 meter /second .when you will catch it, a back force will be create to pull the roller skating but it will be less than the force was created by me at the timing of throwing the ball towards you. I can collect this ball again from you by using a conveyor belt system.in this way this engine will work .This engine is not a closed system .the iron ball is expelling outside from the inside part of this system and reducing its velocity with itself and after with reduced velocity is again entering in this system.if we try this system on the earth then it will work and if this kind system works on the earth then there is no doubt that it will not work in space. further more I would like to inform you that we will use FERROFLUID(magnetic fluid) to reduce the velocity of these Iron balls .These iron balls will be filled up with this magnetic fluid and at the time of expelling this fluid will be in solid state but once expelling from the gun system it will convert into liquid form to reduce the velocity of iron balls .In this way this iron ball will reduce its velocity with itself due to ferro liquid. we can also use another system to reduce the velocity of iron ball upto 0%by using two electromagnets .In this solution suppose iron ball is moving through between two electromagnet and these two electromagnet will try to attract this iron ball and this iron ball will be stopped immediately. there is also an another option to reduce the velocity of this iron ball. Now my question is now the velocity of this iron ball is Zero then this engine should move or not as we are getting thrust of gun system to propel the engine and iron ball is in 0 velocity and the force has been canceled to stop this iron ball due to both electromagnet . Please explain your answer and this is last time. i shall be very grateful to you.

Dear Sir, In this sketch there is a GUN SYSTEM as a propellant chamber and we are using IRON BALLS as a propellant. An electromagnet is attached on the other side of this engine .When we fire these IRON balls with the help of this gun system then these balls will move towards forward side and a back force will be create to propel this engine . These iron balls will be piled up on the surface of this electromagnet and we can again reuse these iron balls and send back these iron balls into the propellant chamber or refilling the Gun system again and again with the help of a mechanical system . In this way this engine will work and the propellant will never be reduced. Now please tell me that will this Idea work or not as this time as far as I think no law is violating. Vikram.

Sir, I will tell you that where I'm confused but please comments on this second concept.

please read it carefully that in first part of this engine the rubber band 's A and B both parts are moving in forward direction and second part of this engine is working also as a pushing system and counter opposite force. Please pay your attention on the work of first part .this engine is not as simple as you are imaging and I also have physics knowledge and after reading Newton's law I posted this Idea on this forum. Sir,please tell me that why this Idea shouldn't work if you have read it carefully .Both parts in this engine are working separately with same timing but where in first part we are applying force towards front side the spring is going towards front side and in second part we are applying back force and but spring is moving towards front side.It is not violating newton's law but even newton's law is supporting this Idea. Just tell me . I shall be very grateful to you.

I don't have have technical resource to develop a working model but if someone in this forum has technical sources then he can try it and it will work ..

Just try this Idea with some rubber bands you will find out your answer but but the front part must go in forward direction .

you can do a very simple experiment to know the feasibility of this design and it will work .

Dear Sir, I have done some experiment on this Idea and it will work definitely. if you have some technical sources to develop this tech then try it and you will find out that it will work .I want to ask you that if this idea works on the earth surface then why this should not work in space even it will work better in space vaccum.If you read carefully then find that momentum is changing.

There will be no need of on-board propellant in this technology (Zero Fuel Technology). MECHANISM:There will be two part of this engine. The first part will move freely in a cylindrical tube but second part will be stable. Two motors will be fixed in this engine as per the diagram. The (1) motor will work to press the first part towards the front side while (2) motor will work to press the second part towards backside. Two lever system will be attached with each motor.These levers will work to press their side springs when both motors will move. There will be Pull Back system attached in the first part of this engine. This pull back system will work to get back the first part of this engine on its position with the help of a motor and electromagnets. Two magnetic brackets will be attached with first part as per the diagram and springs of first part's will be attached with a magnetic system. This engine will get energy with solar panels. HOW WILL THIS ENGINE WORK? When both lever systems will work to press their side springs then a kinetic force will create on both springs. when the (1) lever will press the spring of first part then the spring get stretch due to pressure and at a point of pressure this part will be detached with its side magnets and will move towards front side due to kinetic force. But in second part of the device when (2) lever will press the spring towards backside then spring will work to push this device towards front side after removing lever pressure. In this way both parts of this device will help to push forward this device. The magnetic bracket will work to catch this first part so that this part couldn't move with back force, otherwise this engine will move towards backside due to back force. The pull back system will work to attach this first part with the help of electromagnets.The first part will be detached with magnetic brackets when pull back system will work on this part with electromagnets then the springs of this part will be attached with their side magnets again and pull back system will be detached. BOTH LEVERS WILL WORK AT THE SAME TIME WITH EQUAL FORCE IN THIS ENGINE. The first part of this device will get back its position again and both parts' levers systems will be ready to work on their side springs again and again. The first part will move freely in a cylindrical tube but second part will be stable. Two motors will be fixed in this engine as per the diagram. The (1) motor will work to press the first part towards the front side while (2) motor will work to press the second part towards backside. Two lever system will be attached with each motor.These levers will work to press their side springs when both motors will move. There will be Pull Back system attached in the first part of this engine. This pull back system will work to get back the first part of this engine on its position with the help of a motor and electromagnets. Two magnetic brackets will be attached with first part as per the diagram and springs of first part's will be attached with a magnetic system. This engine will get energy with solar panels. HOW WILL THIS ENGINE WORK? When both lever systems will work to press their side springs then a kinetic force will create on both springs. when the (1) lever will press the spring of first part then the spring get stretch due to pressure and at a point of pressure this part will be detached with its side magnets and will move towards front side due to kinetic force. But in second part of the device when (2) lever will press the spring towards backside then spring will work to push this device towards front side after removing lever pressure. In this way both parts of this device will help to push forward this device. The magnetic bracket will work to catch this first part so that this part couldn't move with back force, otherwise this engine will move towards backside due to back force. The pull back system will work to attach this first part with the help of electromagnets.The first part will be detached with magnetic brackets when pull back system will work on this part with electromagnets then the springs of this part will be attached with their side magnets again and pull back system will be detached. BOTH LEVERS WILL WORK AT THE SAME TIME WITH EQUAL FORCE IN THIS ENGINE. The first part of this device will get back its position again and both parts' levers systems will be ready to work on their side springs again and again. In this way this engine will work. This will be a radical step for deep space missions. There will be no need of on-board propellant in this technology (Zero Fuel Technology).