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So You Want 1g Constant Acceleration?
Spacescifi replied to Spacescifi's topic in Science & Spaceflight
Really? Why is anti-alluminum better than anti-iron (besides being easier to say)? -
Sorry... I will correct. Saia meant to say meat eating plant humanoids. I will tell you the results of your choice later. I am eating.
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Do you think we should attempt contact with aliens?
Spacescifi replied to caballerodiez's topic in The Lounge
I still think you may be making this up. If it's all true you can tell me everything and I and others STILL would not believe you. You have nothing to lose. Tell me everything. Even PM me if you like. I will tell no one. -
Do you think we should attempt contact with aliens?
Spacescifi replied to caballerodiez's topic in The Lounge
Yes. The logic falls flat there. Like Sherlock Holmes said in a novel: "Remove everything that cannot be true. Whatever remains no matter how improbable is the truth." This is also a good scientific method too. -
Do you think we should attempt contact with aliens?
Spacescifi replied to caballerodiez's topic in The Lounge
So nothing at all happens to you if you talk? Because I know humans, they can be made to talk. So are you saying that if someone tried to force you to talk you would not? I find that hard to believe. The only humans I know that do that are those that love someone they are trying to protect. I doubt that is the case with you, since the best way to keep aliens undercover is to pretend they don't exist. -
Saia replies, "Strong words. Now pay attention to what I am about to say. You have no idea what is out there in the galaxy. We are all that stands between you and a race of plant based humanoids who eat other races, fairy looking aliens who are so divided politically that they have 9000 nations one one planet, and octopoid humanoids who fight each other over what they think is best to be efficient about. If you think you can handle all that on your own, even though all those races have bombs that are a thousand times more powerful than your nuclear arsenal, then handle it. Is that what you want? Think about it, if we found you, don't you think they can? Especially if we aren't around?" Choose a reply: 1. "We will survive without you." 2. "Wow. I change my mind. We need you."
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Do you think we should attempt contact with aliens?
Spacescifi replied to caballerodiez's topic in The Lounge
Neither can you prove you you are trustworthy. The more you say the more questions pop up that make the whole thing seem made up. At first you said you saw aliens, then you said you were the first human to interact with them, and that you were not chosen but someone (very special no doubt) arranged for you to meet the aliens. In general, if I have a somwthing I want to keep secret, I won't tell the world about it. On the other hand, if I have something to tell the world and it won't harm me I will tell them everything. Unless that's the point you wish to make... -
Do you think we should attempt contact with aliens?
Spacescifi replied to caballerodiez's topic in The Lounge
Hey... fantastic claims require fantastic proofs. Believing any human at their word only is never a wise thing to do unless you know that they are trustworthy to begin with. -
Do you think we should attempt contact with aliens?
Spacescifi replied to caballerodiez's topic in The Lounge
You may not be lying.... but still does not mean what you saw and heard was what you say it is. That said, some do lie about seeing scifi aliens IRL just because they wish they were real so badly that they look for signs everywhere. Not saying that's you. I am just giving an example of a plausible reason. Others do it for attention. Again... those are the only plausible reasons I can come up with besides you mistaking something or someone for something they were pretending to be. -
Please... You seem rather enthusiatic about fighting aliens. Why not continue the question path I need I completed first? Trust me... you will get your chance to fight scifi aliens... at the end. On the other hand, if you want to fast trak this to see how it all ends, at least in the original version I made years ago, I can arrange that too.
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So You Want 1g Constant Acceleration?
Spacescifi replied to Spacescifi's topic in Science & Spaceflight
Not necessarily. If we had anti-iron we could simply put it in a magnetic vacuum chamber. -
STALLING SAIA PATH : When you choose to stall Saia instead of voting in the beginning. You ply Saia with many questions, but she keeps saying that all will be revealed if you vote to join. Finally you ask,"Why do you want us to join so badly? Why us? You can find others." Saia sighs shaking her head. "I know you fear me. I know you do not trust me. I even know that humans call us demons and the Overlords from Childhood's End and that human males wish to abuse me. Let's say you're right, we are all that is wrong with the universe and worse. Tell me, what can you do about it? Anything at all to stop us?" Your next words decide what happens next. Choose: 1. Answer, "Better to die on our feet than live on our knees." 2. Stall with, "You're kinda pretty... for an alien." 3. Answer, "Nothing we can do to stop you." 4. Say, "I don't think you're evil."
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Define good ending. I thought ending #1 Consolation Prize to be fairly good.
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TURMOIL ENDING: You chose the exit. As you open the door you hear Saia, "Stay with us. Please?! You're receiving death threats from both the anti and pro alien human groups. If you leave now I cannot guarantee your safety. Consider this an offer of asylum." You reject her and leave the alien embassy on Earth.. In the weeks that follow the anti-alien and pro alien groups clash and people die, your house is set on fire, and you go into hiding. The alien fleet also leaves orbit, leaving Earth by itself once more, with the knowledge that they are not alone. The government helps you go into hiding, but unfortunately for you, one of the agents turns you over to the pro-alien crowd. Police find your corpse later. Like many, the agent had a relative that was waiting for an alien cure. With the aliens gone, many are upset with you. Thus this ending.
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So You Want 1g Constant Acceleration?
Spacescifi replied to Spacescifi's topic in Science & Spaceflight
Indeed. Which is why antimatter pushsr plate bomb drives are king. Project Orion with an upgrade. -
I would love to tell you, but there is reason why I am saving the results of joining the alliance for last. Suspense. That said, since you are the only one playing right now I will answer the results the path followed from the galaxy intelligence route. Ending 1: CONSOLATION PRIZE If you choose the door of information then you see a desk and books. You look back at Saia who is still sitting in her office in the adjoining room, a puzzled look on yourr face. "I expected more. This is it?" "I have nothing to say to you." Saia says, and gets up to leave her office. With that you once more go to the desk and pick up the books, and quickly realize they are ordinary human books. The door shuts behind you automatically and the lights go dark. You demand to know what's going on as an exosketal hand grabs you and forcibly presses a tissue onto your face. You have been chloroformed and thus are no longer conscious. Later on you wake up aboard a spaceship on a bed near the window... with gravity. (Only guy pic I could find) The door rings and you ask who it is. "You know me." It's Saia and she walks in. You ask her what is going on. The gist of her answer is this: "Humans are not the strongest nor the fastest, nor even the smartest race we have encountered. Yet you do have something we want." "Which is?" "Your brains." You recoil in horror but Saia laughs. "Still attached to your bodies. See, your brains, when the errors are fixed, have limitless storage capacity. You can retain endless amounts of information. In fact, right now you know more than any single Protector alive. You just don't realize it yet. Your head? We fixed you... your brain errors. We downloaded information of all the technology of other races and their cultures into your brain. If I ask you to do somsthing you have never done before and it has been downloaded, you will know how to do it. In fact the only race you you will still have to learn how to work their technology is my own. Security reasons, you understand? I know you want to know why and you will find out on your own anyway so I will be the first to tell you. We may look somewhat like you humans, but are brains have limited storage capacity, which means learning too many skills will erase some of our stored memories. We have never been able to fix this, at best we use flash memory technology to learn things instantly, but as I said, our storage capacity is limited. You though... you can know and be... anything. So long you put your mind to work. You will work for us now. Consider yourself our consolation prize. As you cheated us out of joining Earth to the alliance, we will have to settle for making clones of you... brain fixed clones that is. Each one of you will have the combined knowledge of Alliance databanks on all our rivals and enemies. We take every edge we can when we can." "If I refuse?" "Don't be foolish... this is fair. You cheated us from having an easy intelligence resource okay? You will not deny us the fruits of our labor! This will take longer, but it is better than nothing." Long story short, the Alliance left Earth alone but took you as a consolation prize, fixed your brain, and is also making fixed clones of you to serve Alliance interests.
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Do you think we should attempt contact with aliens?
Spacescifi replied to caballerodiez's topic in The Lounge
I will call your bluff. I really do think you are either making it up or perhaps saw something else... but it was not what you thought it was, or even what it told you it was. Looking at all 'aien' contact reports combined, they tend to follow the same pattern as your own. A person who is special enough to picked for communication out of billions of humans, and an isolated event few if any saw. Personally, even if they were real... if skulking around and hiding is their modus operandi, then they hardly seem on the up and up. People that hide and are secretive to an extreme often are up to no good. -
You poor misinformed human... More like what already has happened....
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There is a definite reason why it would be very difficult to pull off... but as I said... that's an answer for later. At any rate, both my previous post and the OP give hints as to why. Remember who it is you are dealing with and what they have accomplished in mere decades. Stuff we have never done they did in about tweny years. And you think your plan had a snowball's chance in a lava pit of succeeding?
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Yeah you have a point. The longer the rocket the longer the blades. Just unfold them and you should bs good to go. Will need to a long, long, rocket the heavier the spacecraft is though to generate the have the needed length/thrust from the blades.
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You really do not know the Protectors or their history leading up to the present day. But you will in time. Just wait as I get around to that voting question. In the mean time, I will provide this music, which is as telling as I could find that shows what the Protectors are truly about. At least according to them. Answers: More will be incoming in due time, but for now I will answer what most have voted for so far (ask for intelligence on the rest of the galaxy). The Answer: Saia blinks twice as if she can't believe what she is hearing. "I am sorry. You really did not just say that after all we have done for your people at cost that you not only reject our offer, but also want more free stuff? Is that correct?" "Information is all I want." "My government already expected such an outcome and arranged for that." Saiah then points to two doors behind her. "The door on the right leads to more information than any of us could dream of. It can be all yours. The door on the left leads to the exit. Choose one." Which door do you pick? Yes I do need an answer as that decides how this goes. At least this part. Other answers lead to different paths altogether.
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Mars is at best relatively easy to terraform... compared to something much harder like reaching lighthugger speed in a year's time. One need only call to mind the tremendous solar system supply train it would require to even begin to attempt terraforming. Mars lacks the gravity to hold a proper atmosphere, and to increase gravity the only way we know how would be to add to Mars mass. How to do that? Crash enough asteroids into it I dunno. It would take time to redirect them, that I do know. Once it has a enough gravity then changing the atmosphere wouldbe the next step...which would require water... lots of it. Where to get that? Gas giants? I don't suggest Earth for NIMBY reasons.
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I think most prefer anonymity. Otherwise the show your pic section would have morefl faces.
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Attempts were made and they turned them down. They prefer their offer instead.
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Disclaimer: It's ironic really... I don't think that aliens... at least as depicted in scifi, actually are real. Mine included. Yet I still find them fun to play with as they reveal quite a bit of honest human self reflection whenever they do show up. THE SCENARIO: So humanoid aliens, part of an interstellar allliance, made contact with Earth in 2001. How has the world changed till now? Aliens have been involved with trading with Earth, and many Earthlings have received superior medical care by being shipped to alien hospitals on alien worlds or alien spaceships. As a result, all human diseases are now curable, furthermore, lifespans are being increased so now reaching a 100 is still only like your 20's (for those fortunate to have been relatively young enough to get treatment during the time after arrival. Now it is 2018. Humans take vote to decide whether or not they want to join the alien alliance officially. The aliens promise to change Earth for the better and open up trade and interaction with Earth on a much deeper level than before. Up until now all the aliens have provided is shipping goods and excellent medical care. They have not provided any of their other tech (starships, FTL drives etc) Nonetheless not everyone really trusts the aliens. In the end the deciding vote falls to you. Before you vote, various factions contact you. Anti-alien human faction says: "If you vote to join the alliance you're deader than fried chicken!" Pro-alien human faction says: "The aliens have giving us extended our lifespans and healed us of our diseases. They may not be God, but they are the next best thing. Join the alliance already!" Horned Humanoid Ambassador of the alliance named Saia says: "Here is your chance to change the course of humans history for the better. Will you take it? We want to save you from yourselves. If you choose to decline our offer, we will leave you to your own devices. Maybe you won't destroy yourselves before we return in the future." What do you do? Keep in mind that I will respond with the consequences no matter what you do. As always, knowledge is power. Especially when you have an idea of what what to expect... even if you don't have all the details. You get several choices. Decide in a vote and I will return in a day or two to show you the results of your choice.