thanks for the warm welcome. well, Arthur VII was mostly a great success. After lift off and Kerbin orbit, the second stage burned out to catch the Mun orbit and with two full tanks of fuel began the retrograde burn to slow down. After exhausting the fuel, the second stage was jettisoned and only the lander remained. at 75m/s the Landing Module began the slow descent to Mun Landing... after sweating hands, lots of RCS usage, some swearing and a little luck, Kerbin Mission Control heard the fateful words.. \'KerbKomm this is Mun Base 1. the Kebble has landed!\' (with half a tank of descent fuel as well!) \'Kroger that Mun Base 1, you got a bunch of Kerbs up here about to turn brown, we\'re breathing again, thanks alot\' It took me 5 days, many attempts, too many explosions and dead kerbs to mention, but I finally got a lander on the Mun. I even managed to get it back up and into Kerbin orbit, although with not enough fuel to get back for splashdown. but not to worry, those Brave Kerbals will lay the foundations, so bring on v 0.16!!