CatastrophicFailure

Good thing they made the change after Ms. Peresild’s visit…

It would seem it's their university colors. No one get excited. yet.

This is clearly a violation of the laws of physics. Your physics teacher must not be very good.

I think maybe the airlock is below that?

Wow, it’s cool to finally see some work on the “details” and interior, such that it is. And these pics are probably “ancient” and way behind what’s actually being done now, too. Still curious about the white paint on Lunar Starship, what’s the point? If they need thermal rejection, isn’t the bare shiny steel better? Insulating blankets, maybe?

About those aerocovers…

I think, if they are not yet, they soon will be… and they are extremely aware of this fact. Anyone wonder why Musk didn’t want his jet’s location broadcasted around now?

NoneWeb.

Also warn her the rest of the day people will be telling her “hey you got something on your face…”

This. Hubble has been serviced multiple times, including activities far in excess of how it was actually designed to be serviced (like replacing the solar panels, IIRC). For all your talk of emotional attachment, you’ve certainly attached a lot of emotion to this. A recovery service wouldn’t be all that different from any of the other servicing missions, other than using a different vehicle. Yes, there are problems to solve but they are all solvable problems. We shall have to agree to disagree, then.

Breaking up the Spruce Goose and moving it hundreds of kilometers would have been nigh-impossible around the time it was built. When it was moved, it was fairly simple, because technology changed. See, this is where our ways of thinking diverge. I sincerely doubt anyone who worked on Hubble would not want it recovered, if it were possible. And yes, it is a “we can do both” issue, because… This is the thing people don’t grok about Starship. It’s still revolutionary, it’s still a paradigm changer even if it’s numbers are off by orderS of magnitude. It really and truly has the potential to (eventually) make recovering Hubble not unlike calling a house-moving company today to come and move your house. The optics of “keeping it” if Musk or Bezos were to fund the recovery alone preclude any chance of that happening. It’s not reducing NASA’s budget if it’s specifically included by the congressional purse-masters, as it would likely be in such a scenario. Which is also even more likely if the cost of such a thing is “only” in the 10s of millions. Hubble’s life expectancy even today could be all the way out til 2040, that’s almost two decades of paradigms shifting to make it seem less daunting a proposition. On a timeframe like that, it likely wouldn’t even be the first such thing returned from space.

(I respect, but...) I just do not understand this mentality from some people. We, as humans, are more than just the sum of our parts. Were are not merely creatures of biology or the cold logic of machines, we are something more. That extends to giving things value beyond the sum of their parts, too. The Hubble is not merely a tool, it is an indelible piece of history, now, both for it's scientific and cultural contributions. Seeing a mock-up is just not the same thing as seeing in the flesh. If When I go to the Smithsonian, I want to see the actual Wright Flyer, the Shuttle Discovery, the Spirit of St. Louis. I want to see the actual thing that did the thing, not just a copy of it, because that thing has meaning because it did the thing. And Hubble belongs in there right along with all those other pieces of history. No, it probably would not be worth the effort to recover it with Shuttle-era hardware, and requisite expense. But Starship is not that, it has the potential to radically change paradigms in ways most people still don't entirely grok. Starship could, theoretically, return Hubble for relative pocket change. Yes, that's all entirely speculatory at this point, but so what? What's wrong with asking "what if?" That's another concept that is uniquely human and has led to some rather wonderous things. The Voyagers and Pioneers are too far out, the Veneras are probably half-melted (current politics notwithstanding), and whilst Opportunity absolutely should be on that list (bring him home!), that's a much, much longer pole. Hubble is unique in that it is both extremely significant and extremely accessible. There are problems to be solved with a recovery mission but they are all solvable problems, at least technically.

And so it begins…

Why deal with it later if it could be deal with "now?" That's the kind of possibility Starship opens up. Bring it home, put it in a museum, hopefully before everyone who watched it launch is dead.

IIRC Hubble’s panels have already been replaced once as part of a servicing mission, seems reasonable they could be removed again. Not an easy prospect, but things worth doing often are not. SpaceX is already working on crew accommodations, commercial EVAs, and most of the other building blocks required.

Backwards, but correct. When it sticks around longer the left (south) side of the road where the sun never hits will be impassible while the right is bare & dry. I hate sunny days more than usual this time of year, nothing but that horrible low-angle sunlight that constantly manages to get in your eyes.

Solar panels can be removed/cut off. Even end-of-life modules could be somewhat roughly “uninstalled,” the goal is a museum piece, not a fully functional unit. There’s plenty of precedent of doing similar with aircraft, a la the Spruce Goose, doing so in space would be an evolution of that. Question is, what’s Starship’s Earth downmass?

Snoooooooooooooooow! …aaaaaaaand it’s gone. Sigh. Another one of those Cascadia 24-hour snows, then back to mud. I wish. Hardwood is a hard find around here, they don’t call it the Evergreen State for nothin’. Have to settle for ol’ Doug Fir: the softer hardwood.

Things You Can’t Tow with a Tesla #7: a whole flarping tree. Well… most of one. Pretty sure this was over the 5klb tow rating, or at least dang close, the trailer struggled a bit to dump it. Still pulled it without issue… and stopped it, too. Only had to take it about a mile, anyway, for this: I have so much lumber now. A guy across the highway does custom milling, so instead of just chopping it up for firewood that nice old tree will become something else with long term appreciation. My complete lack of woodworking skills notwithstanding. Gonna try to make a bench out of the big half-rounds, a couple of nice live-edge shelves… and 2x4s… lots and lots of 2x4s. Maybe a new woodshed for actual firewood. I read somewhere that social media likes tickle the same receptors in the brain as… certain chemicals of questionable legality. Makes perfect sense.

Racist graffiti should be easy to prove. Forced segregation of multiple people should be really easy to prove. What I am saying is simple; show me evidence. Thus far I have not seen any related to this case, just allegations. And yes, these days “everyone” has a smart phone, even if that is not, in point of fact, *everyone.*

This. The allegations are egregious and extreme, not at all something one expects to find in this day and age, and especially in a place like California. But I’ve seen little in the way of actual evidence. Allegations like these should also be easy to prove, if they are true.

Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence.

Would magnetic… bits even work tho? I mean, aren’t the hulls in question either stainless, aluminum, or wrapped in thermal blankets and thus not magnetic?