Sorry to take this off track, but I just had to comment.... I got to meet the man who created the VIC-20 and ended up working with him for a short bit. He designed it and wrote its first kernel (if you can call it that). In the Commodore manual, it said that VIC stands for Video Interface Chip. It was actually named after Vic, the guy that created it. He was super nice and said he made it to help get young people into computing. I said "It worked! Here I am!" On another side note, I was at the Bay Area Maker Faire this weekend and got to meet Eben Upton and Liz from the Raspberry Pi foundation. Great people! Tracer