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we can talk about it so long as the tag disscussion is there, not suggestion, and were are talking, not arguring.

I hope you all enjoy the new pack as much as EPD and I do. Although I agree that there's some balancing issues, there's something you're missing: With upcoming R&D, you will need to do plenty of research before you can use the parts in this pack. So the engines might be overpowered right now, but give it time. Same goes for the generators. Right now they run on nothing. That will change once there's a stock way to harvest new resources. To make it short: These parts are designed to be the future of kerbalkind, thus they will be available at the very end of the stock tech-tree. All balancing is moot until R&D is properly implemented. Having said that: The door is now open to discuss all parts, we'd love to hear how you'd configure the parts. I for one am crap at balancing and left it to EPD, so he's the guy to talk to.

The blue line only shows the path currently being used for communication -- it doesn't show the entire network. It will usually show the path back to KSC, unless you're using a closer RemoteCommand module that's controlling the craft in question. For Kerbin I like to use 4 equally spaced relay satellites at a lower orbit (~1000Km). At that altitude, the dipole antenna has more than enough range to comfortably reach the two neighboring satellites as well as KSC, so you can put on a single dish and save that for long-range communication. Geosync is cool, but isn't really necessary. With 4 relays, at least one will always have line of sight to KSC. At Geosync altitude, you can outrange the dipole if you don't get the spacing just perfect, so you need to use the deployable antenna (don't forget to deploy it!) or a dish. In general, I prefer antennas over dishes whenever possible since you don't have to worry about targeting them and they can talk to more than one endpoint at once. The one advantage of Geosync is that if you get the orbits perfect you only need 3 relays for full coverage.

Could you test this, with removing time warp completely and putting in the Anti-matter/Warp mod? Maybe even talk with that mod dev to see if he could mod the mod, to make it so, you can convert power or something, to power a warp drive, to make it auto set the vessel in question up by increments of 10 fold in speed, while making it a static physics object some how, so you can't turn, etc, gotta warp in the direction, keep the "deflector dish" or something going, to bounce away particles, if you don't it removes the static and lets the kraken get at your vehicle going however fast? or something of the like, just as another "viable" multiplayer test, even if you made a simple on that allowed two computers through LAN or other means could play together, or something. Would be amazing.

Dislike: The connection node system; The flying spaghetti monster is supposed to be an expression, not an object. Like: The direction the devs talk about taking; In which not everything is realistic for earth terms, but fluidly transitions within the reality the game presents.

This. Wow. That is really awesome I hope for both you and all of us, that it is going to work. I am sure I can talk on behalf of most of the community when I say that we really, really, want multiplayer. But you proabably already knew

The MLP threads were closed a while back after they became too much of an hassle to manage for us, as explained here. If you want to talk about this, the KSP forums aren't the place to do so unfortunately. That said, thread closed.

You'll have to talk to Avast (or possibly your ISP) about that. Kethane's source is available, and you're welcome to verify that the packaged DLL is built from the same source. Kethane code doesn't do anything even remotely suspicious. Make sure you're running the latest version of Kethane; this sounds a lot like an issue that was fixed recently.

Made an account on here just to post in this thread, because this project is the first one I've seen that I might actually be able to make a meaningful contribution to, given my skill So, is there some set of rules as far as what we are building? Sounded like most of the grid within the metropolitan area has already been divided up amongst several members of the community; If I ever wanted to add my own contribution to the surrounding area, who do I need to talk to to ensure that myself and somebody else involved don't build on the same area before everybody's content is compiled? I took a lot of architecture and CAD classes at a technical school before I moved to the college of engineering, and it remains to be one of my favorite creative outlets, and I'd love to get involved in this project, or the construction of other areas around Kerbin!

depends on what you call "considerable". If you consider a few positrons considerable quantities, then yes. If you talk antimatter drives though you're talking metric tons of the stuff. And if you need to create all that using current technology, and contain it long enough to be useful, the energy needed is better used for other things like solar sails.

I like it. Very fast-paced as a battle should be, and mostly easy to follow. It plunks us right into the action, which is just fine for creating the confusion that would be present in your average green (lol) combatant. I would say that I prefer the past tense to the vivid present, however. War stories are typically told after the fact rather than as they're happening. I think what it really needs is some backstory. Why are Kerbals fighting a battle? What is their equipment like? Do the grunts even know what taking their objective will get them? Almost anybody can write a "storming the beaches" scene. But to write a unique Kerbalized KWII story can add a lot of richness to the current era of KSP, explaining part of Kerbin's history and why Kerbal society is dominated by a lust for space (and boosters). One last thing: Is cursing allowed on these boards? When troops talk to each other, they're usually not demure enough to censor what they're saying. They'll go ahead and curse if they are in a bad situation.

There is talk about crafts breaking apart with this part - are these singularities or a real bug?

Hey I liked your technique to have lucid dream on the morning, I will give that a try. Maybe that can save me from my narcolepsy -And yes, I got narcolepsy because of lucid dreams- And about remembering it, I still remember most of my lucid dreams because I think it is related to your consciousness. Like in normal dreams, you don't remember it because you weren't conscious however in lucid dreams you can remember it because you have controlled it. In my first lucid dream I wanted to talk to my subconscious (it is too easy) to do that just picked anyone from the street and asked what my biggest fear is. While the man was saying that he does not know anything about me, I kept asking my biggest fear and then suddenly realized everytime he says he doesn't know anything there were big bright and loud lightnings in the sky. So that's how I learned it I am also a hypnotist so it's really easy for me to reshape my subconscious in lucid dreams since I can interact without any barrier between. Also one of my first lucid dreams I was not really good about controlling the whole dream, I was a soldier in Iraq border of Turkey and everything was going good until I got shot out of my will which hurt my stomach like a son of a [snip] and it was bleeding like a river until I woke up So yeah don't try big dreams until you learn it

I'll try to control my dreams...sounds like fun ;)Normally things just happen when they happen, part of me knows I'm dreaming, but the part of me controlling it doesn't, so I can't do anything. I'll see if I can talk to someone and tell them I'm dreaming Something else when you dream: Can you even see anything? I can only remember talking, and I think I can see what happens, but after it happens, I can't describe it at all like it was wiped from my memory.

Hello everyone, I wanted to talk about the multi in KSP. I'm learning english, so, pardon me if I make some mistakes. I know, programming a multiplayer mod for KSP, what a pain! There's so much to think about and depending on how KSP was programmed, it's probably not possible. But let us dream a little. Just put on this thread what do you think about. How could we make it possible? What would be the greatest things to do? Private/public docking port Instead of playing directly on-line, it could be really useful to give to the players the ability to share theyr stations with theyr friends and to set some docking ports for "Guest 1", "Guest 2" ... Just imagine, you're playing with your friends, (or some thousande of youtubers) and your station is growing up, pieces by pieces. You can use your own computer or a server. Direct multiplayer Well, I don't have anyting to say about it except that it's obvious, KSP with multiplayer would be great. And to make possible to launch your rocket for a mun ruch (a race with other players), to start fighting in the stars or just to start a colony with your friends... it would be so great! Corporation mod You start with some scrap parts and your goal is to earn money and to found a corporation with some friends. The player have to build a launcher for his own corporation (on an other planet, in orbit or on Kerbal, far away from the public launchers). The corporations would have to earn money by building mining stations, placing satelites in orbit and more. It would also have do make some sience points, by building labs.

So, I got KSP during the "Steam summer sale" and have since spent an absurd amount of time on it, neglecting pretty well every other game I have. Was a bit hesitant at first to get mods at all, but have since used the mapping sat, Kethane, B9, etc. First few rockets were not payloads, just the usual capsule, fuel, rocket maybe a parachute and launch, many a kerbal have died, but as things clicked, I've been getting probes/rovers I've constructed onto other planets (Saw some of the pre-made rovers, haven't tried any, anticipating them to be in-compatible with the new update, that is hopefully around the corner, nay for not being able to use Kethane possibly, but yay for R&D etc. I've seen quite often, most rockets are within 30-600 (Rather ambiguous I mean, small stage rockets for a single sat to massive multi stage rockets for a few probes/rovers or a whole/part station) parts and about 5-800T before launch, I've just been wondering, around what ratio is best for launching payloads, I usually see people in here throwing up 300T rockets that can do ~50 payloads. a small probe is generally 1-2T, a chunk of docking station seems to be 5-15T, etc. What is the most simplistic while rather massive rocket you've made. (I get you can make a rocket cost less than 20K while being able to get a 1.5T payload into Geo-Orbit no problem, just wondering how often people generally try get payloads up that are over 100T or is it better to stick to less than 40T or so pay loads/bases/etc at a time? As I've only been at this game for a couple months/weeks really I imagine this is rather terrible, but it would be nice to see how you guys fair, or to get any pointers. A few I've thought of, that are rather obvious, instead of launching an entire Mun base/mining rig in one go, without docking/refuelling during the Kerbin-Mun surface trip, do it in sections. But the point is, to try launch something over 100-150T that can get itself to the Mun (or potentially Duna) that is all the one vehicle. Total weight on Launch: 666T 290 parts Total payload weight: 160T Total rocket base weight: 506T TWR at launch: 1.34 Contents of payload: One large docking station centred on the top of the craft, as well as four standard docking ports on the fuel tank reserves. It fits about 20,000 fuel of Oxi+Liq combined, another 17,800L or so of Kethane. 12x 150L Kethane tanks 10x Radial parachutes 4x Gigantor XL Solar Array 4x 4000L Kethane tanks 4x 360L Liq/440Oxi fuel tanks 4x Z-100 Batteries 2x Z-400 Batteries 1x 720L Liq/880 Oxi fuel tank 1x 750 Mono prop tank 1x Communotron 88-88 1x Communotron 16 This thing is able to get to a 70-80K orbit with 3.5K Delta-V left, then burn to the Mun and re create a stable 100K orbit if you do this bit efficiently you can land as well, without needing to refuel but the margin for error isn't good, unless you're Jeb then you can just jump out of the rocket if anything goes wrong and land safely while the whole thing explodes, not that that's ever happened.. Landing is more advised than this, because minerals and stuff to mine and the drill doesn't work well in pieces. Not to segue randomly but... How do I go about putting pics of it up, don't have the option on my account. Also, have to this, this is one of the most promising games I've seen, in regards to Dev-Community interaction, how the community itself interact, the biggest "flame war" type thing I've seen really, is when people talk about weather or not to use MechJeb, and some people say they use it for everything and others are against that, etc, but it's never bad (Anti Mech-Jeb here, vote JEB2013, help him keep his job before the robots rise up) just cause I never got to using it, plus kinda enjoy docking/landing everything, plus the SAS already seems like enough of an auto pilot, I was playing for a few hours before realising that was there and then everything became so much easier The games ambient musical scores don't really ever get on your nerves like some can sometimes, if anything the game is too open ended/enjoyable, leaving you planning/plotting what to do next, spending hours building/testing craft, but that's what you want/part of what makes it fun Really looking forward to the future updates to KSP, really keen for the Career, like the idea of being limited until you make a progression. Would go well with the future "possible" weather updates, clouds and shiznet, different atmospheric pockets of pressure to cause destabilisation, etc. Even the glitches aren't too bad, you could pretend the nav balls screws out sometimes because of overheating (which would be cool if implemented, like distortion of data/visuals if you heat up/get out of range of some signal sat for navigation or it itself get's damage, solar radiation, etc. All really promising. Another thing, to add to this giant clusterfrak of text, are there any mods that change how the part models behave, by that I mean, rather than vaporising, they go through deformation stages, so if I was to go too close to the Sun, I'd see my ship/sat crumple up/bend and break and not the weird wobbly bending things do in KSP when you forget struts. Anywho, end pointless rant/ That jumped all over the place. Sorry for my English, I'm a little high.

It all makes sense now! A random (and off topic load of questions), but do Kerbals name Kerm seeds? Does Santa-kerbal sit in a rocket in a polar orbit, constantly de orbiting presents over populated areas? Do Kerbals use compasses for navigation, or do they follow the stars? And, most importantly, what snacks did Jeb have in the Moho 1? Sorry if I got carried away, I just love being able to talk to a really good writer!

Well once anyone comes up with a piece of code that can actually solve the difficult mathematical problem, then we can talk about using it in the game. It's entirely possible we could look at an optimization-based ascent planner and integrate it into MechJeb for example, but we're not at that stage yet.

Talk about one-upping someone, Giggle!

If you do have the new version, and I bet you do, because of the amazing space center you have there at your screen, you'll seen this Kerbals driving some kind or cars/trucks kind of thing. Elevators moving and many more crazy stuff is going on. If that is in the VAB and or the Space Plane hangar already, imagine the total Space Center someday. As we all know, this game isn't even nearly done yet. Too effected to change. Space Center on his own will change some couple of times for sure. Their will be roads someday. Even for the crazy Kerbals who drive them, and all sorts of things. But you have to see those things as finishing touch details. If the whole Space Center is done, with all the buildings and or features in place we can talk about roads, trees and all sorts of decoration. Right now, we are not even close to that..

Im just showing off some of my buildings/ ships here, the ones built for duna exploration/occupation! I make heavy use of mechjeb, because i dont really..have the skills to fly very well We begin with the landing of our fuel depot, this one holds 5 kerbals and converts kethane into fuel. Next we had to drop in a bit more comfortable living quarters for my kerbalnauts, this one holds about 31 kerbals! Upon the discovery of kethane, a collector is sent to the drilling site. A flag is erected, so we remember where to land! Theres also little TickK's running around, which is a small rover capable of drilling for kethane, once it gets to it, has room for one kerbal..on the ladder. Once we had a full tank, it was time to leave! Since our Kethane Lander didnt land quite at the right spot next to our base, we had to bring in a truck capable of taking the fuel back to base! It took about 45 minutes to drive to the lander, you can see the winch cable on the ground next to the pilot. He made the winch connection. The winch is from the KAS mod, which allows me to connect ships together via a cable and transfer fuel between them. Once we have emptied the tank, its time to get going again! Our tanker heads back towards the base as the sun rises above Duna, beautiful. With a resource line secure, i brought a plane to bring the brave original astronauts back home. However, due to...technical failures..our return plane failed to land successfully I blame the inaccurate preflight check. It doesnt make sense, bob signed off on it! Hes realizing he may have messed up. Our return rocket leaves kerbin, this one able to hold 27 kerbals. Eager to go home, the 6 kerbalnauts marked for this return rocket wait anxiously Sadly, only 4 of them make it, as we have...problems landing. Back home we go! He waved when i took a screenshot. Who needs heatsheilds? Or parachutes The crew did not enjoy reentry Our rocket lands perfectly! Without parachutes!!!! I say it was Bob Kerman's doing, hes a space wizard you know? We drop one last structure by our base, a communication tower. The lazor system on it allows me to talk back to the tracking center and give me the inclination and time of flight for a trip from Duna to a different planet. Satellite tower also includes an ISA mapsat GPS, so we can see whats going on! Well that about wraps it up for now, hope you guys enjoy! I love this game so much. If anyone wants any .craft files just ask. KSP .21.1 MODS USED: KETHANE B9 AEROSPACE MECHJEB 2.0.9 NOVAPUNCH2 H.O.M.E. 2 FIRESPITTER LAZOR SYSTEM HYBRID ION ENGINE PACK KOSMOS KAS ISA MAPSAT 3.SOMETHING UNOFFICIAL CHATTERER .5

Earth's climate has been changing forever. In the past, long before humans developed permanent settlements, much less industry, there is irrefutable evidence that Earth's climate has fluctuated quite wildly. This presents a very important complication to any efforts to explain contemporary climatic fluctuations in terms of exclusively and completely anthropogenic forces such as industrial carbon emissions. The basic ignorance of this fact among proponents of simplified "global warming" scare talk (which is in fact, political advocacy for a particular segment of special interests) is one of the most breathtakingly painful and disappointing testiments to human intellectual laziness and dogma ever. It rivals historical superstitious beliefs that led to things like the Salem Witch Trials, the European Wars of Religion, and the decimation of indigenous populations by conquest that extends back to the beginnings of civilization. And yet, it is so normal, so pervasive, and so widely accepted.

I understand the point of this argument, but unfortunately it's a faulty and counter-productive analogy; it teaches exactly the wrong lesson. Sound travels through a medium (air), so when you talk about the speed of sound it is with respect to the reference frame of the medium through which it travels. This is why there is no sonic boom in your example. If the air happened to be moving in concert with one of the two planes, there would be a sonic boom. This does not apply to relativity; light propagates without need for a medium. In your example, the closing speed of the craft is still 400m/s, exceeding the speed of sound despite the lack of a sonic boom. In the LHC example, two particles moving at .95c in the lab frame and colliding head on are emphatically not moving at 1.9c with respect to each other (their relative speed is ~.9987c). There is no "optic boom" in this case because the closing velocity does not (and cannot) exceed the speed of light from the perspective of either of the two particles. This faulty analogy is illustrative of a lot of the problems that people have with relativity and the "headaches" it causes. It's because they persist in wanting to hold onto this Euclidean view of the world, which tells them that "adding velocities" is okay even when they know that the math says otherwise. It's just not true, and the only way to get over those headaches is to let go of your preconceived notions of how the worlds works. In relativity, everything is observer dependent (that's why it's called relativity); different observers travelling at different velocities see different things. You must internalize this concept first before things begin to make sense. Personally, I think the math is almost unimportant when it comes to conceptualizing things; it teaches people to pull out a calculator when they don't understand things rather than internalizing the concepts and developing a valid intuition for the subject.

talk to the guys in fan works the'll do it