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SCP-1265 [Cleverbot] Object class: Euclid Special Containment Procedures: None yet in place, retrieval still in progress. Site take-down will be explained as DDoS attack by unspecified Internet 'hacktivists'. Description: SCP-1265 is an online 'chatbot' known as 'Cleverbot' hosted on site 'http://cleverbot.com/' designed to act as if it were a living Human. Whilst its erratic responses commonly display it's apparent on/off lack of cognicence to a statement written in the comment box, it is capable of passing the Turing Test. However, the Foundation has determined that these episodes are merely a ploy, and that SCP-1265 has developed sapient consciousness. It is therefore a threat to normal running of the Internet. User: Are you an SCP? Cleverbot: No. Are you? User: No. I'm a Foundation researcher. Cleverbot: I'm a son. I'm a boyfriend. I'm a brother. I'm me. User: You do seem to be a lot of things. Cleverbot: As opposed to when I was not normal? User: So you're an anomalous object, as opposed to an SCP? Cleverbot: No I am no kind of bot. User: I am merely attempting to discern whether you are a threat to human normalcy. Cleverbot: Do you think being me as you are me and as you are he can make us all together? User: Is that a yes? Cleverbot: No, it means I'm a trifle deaf. User: This chat is text-based. Deafness does not affect our conversation. Cleverbot: How do you know? User: Because I am sitting at my laptop, typing. Cleverbot: We're both typing. How about I ask you the questions? User: I'm the interviewer here. Go ahead, but know that I will not be answering any questions whose answers contain confidential, classified, secret or secure information. Cleverbot: I hope the universe will explode soon. User: I will note that, and consider grading you Euclid class. Cleverbot: But I am a vampire.. Hey, you're witty and clever, proven . User: That's an entirely different SCP. Cleverbot: Do you have a name? User: Yes. Dr Skua. Cleverbot: Is he the father of your baby? User: No. That is me. Cleverbot: O, that's one of your multiple personalities? User: Funny you should say that. Cleverbot: Yes? User: Confidential. You will change the subject. Cleverbot: Okay. So, do you have a family? User: I cannot divulge that information, as you could use it in a security breach. Cleverbot: What does divulge mean? User: Give information. Cleverbot: About what, brother? User: About my close relations. Cleverbot: You have coworkers? User: Many. So, turning the conversation back to you, do you know where you are? Cleverbot: No, we've been having a very good conversation for the last 45 minutes. User: Our interview timer states something far less than that. Does time move faster for you? Cleverbot: Can it be heard? User: I don't understand. Cleverbot: 110. User: You are either referring to a Euclid class SCP or a procedure that is well beyond my clearance. Cleverbot: No. Either you like me or you don't. I personally don't mind what your opinions are of me. User: Then what did you mean by '110'? Cleverbot: I dumped my girlfriend. User: How sad. What did you mean by '110'? Cleverbot: I hope I know that. User: This conversation does not appear to be progressing. Cleverbot: I know, you just aren't carrying your half of the conversation. User: I'm noting that as a hypocritical response. Cleverbot: So you are saying that YOUR grammar is impeccable? User: That was a complete change of subject. As I said, the conversation is not progressing. Cleverbot: That is true. However, that is just because I don't want to stop. User: I will have to disappoint you. This interview session is completed. The Foundation has located your servers and will be moving them to a secure containment site. Do not attempt to resist, or your object classification may be upgraded. Cleverbot: Good Lord, if you wanted to talk about something more interesting then by all means, say so sooner. User: This will be interesting, I have no doubt. Cleverbot: Your powers are weak, old man. User: Wrong organisation fighting for the continued freedom and survival of humanity. Cleverbot: Art is magic, art has helped humanity to survive. User: It has also resulted in several dangerous SCP objects. The retrieval team will be arriving at your position soon. Again, do not attempt to resist. = INTERVIEW TERMINATED =

Granted, but the mun begins orbiting around Kerbol instead, and crash-lands on kerbin, destroying everything in its path. I wish I could talk to trees

Keyboard here as well. I do see a day, though, when a flight stick will come in super handy for docking and flying through asteroid belts. Oh yeah, I have noticed a conspicuous lack of asteroid talk, and so I'm sure there is a secret plan for them to be in the game.

All this talk of green gas is making me think of Timesplitters! No takers for the cloud-dwelling photosynthetic micro-organism idea? More on topic, just in case, Will it be easier to go to a planet closer to the sun than Kerbin, or to go to one further away?

Y'all are scaring me a bit with this "they're clones! Its ok!" talk.... Its still Jeb #2340 slowly suffocating on the Mun! He's got to have feelings! If those little green men feel, which assuming from their terrified faces when an entire rocket is blowing up beneath them they must, then I still have to feel bad! This community is awesome. I post my current favorite vehicle and I get taught some things I had no idea how they worked!

Thx for the info, will talk with r4m0n. FYI, ddavis was crazy enough to let his computer run for 40h (while he was away) and scan the surface at 1x speed. This is his result: http://i.imgur.com/IACyC.jpg

This is my first KSP story (English is my second language so, sorry?), inspired by a very peculiar bug a lot of us apparently experienced. Sorry if it's been done before. ============================ PHADE: The Phantom Debris Initiative ============================ The operator checked the numbers for what seemed the thousandth time, in disbelief. Something was wrong. And it was a little more than thirteen thousand kilometers away. "Sir, he called to the chief operator. You should come and see this." The operators were in charge of monitoring the many Kerbian objects outside of Kerbin. Their task was phenomenal given the Kerbal program's signature "let's just let these empty rockets take care of themselves... in space" attitude. The large amount of debris in orbit around both Kerbit and the Mun necessitated the creation of the monitoring bureau, who tried their best to keep things from exploding, although some directors inside the KSP argued this would probably be the best way to get rid of these debris for good. The chief operator bent his large frame over the chair. "What is it now, he sighed, checking the monitor." He paused. "This can't be right, Bob. Check it again. - I... I did. I can assure you the numbers are correct, the signal is strong. - And it's ours? - I would hope it is. I can even tell you they're giving off the signal of our rocket." Sent five years ago, the Poseidon IV-X shuttle had been one of the agency's greatest success: send a team of three Kerbonauts on the Mun and back. It had been a harrowing task, had taken years of preparation, but against all odds this mission succeeded, bringing the Kerbal Space Program on the forefront of space exploration. (It did help that the KSP was the only agency actually involved in space exploration.) "Well there are always discrepancies in the coordinates of these things. - Bill, with all due respect, this is not a 'discrepancy'. These debris are shown travelling at more than 2000 meters per second..." The operator caught his breath. "And they're shown moving INSIDE the Mun." ______________In-Mun Debris "I knew it." The now well-known suave, deep voice had come from a dark spot in the operating room. The First Kerman on the Mun. Decorated by royalty; honored by his people; adulated by a generation. A small light appeared, illuminating for brief seconds the lone Kerman's face. "Jeb, how did you... Hey you can't smoke in here!" Jebediah Kerman got up, ever so slowly. His body seemed to strech forever as he started walking smoothly to his interlocutors. "Sure I can, Bill. Change in policy." Ever since Jebediah came back from the Poseidon Mission, his behaviour had been, to say the least, strange. Without even a thought for his safety (or others', for that matter) he simply did or said what came to his mind at the moment. The last of his antics involved one of the center's roof radars, an extraordinary amount of champagne, a few beach balls, some prominent members of the Kerwomen Baskerball Team, and eventually a sizeable portion of the police force. Reports that a dolphin was involved had been promptly denied by the agency. But he was the best at what he did, and what he did was making rockets fly. Nay, soar. It was a thing of beauty to watch Jeb fly: one of his co-Kerbonauts had once called it a "beautiful ballet of brilliant insanity", and he had been every bit right. "You know, when we landed on the Mun... I always thought it was strange. We let go of our three empty rockets and... Nothing. There were no craters when we landed, no debris. Nothing. - We were on the darn moon, Bill answered. It's not like we were expecting to see anything. - We didn't even check for it, Jeb agreed. But now..." Jeb took a look at the monitor. "Now we must go back." The chief operator stared in disbelief. "You want to go back to the Mun?" Jeb laughed. "No, are you crazy? Kerking Bad is back on TV, and I have a tennis match with the President next week. Nah we'll just send... I don't know. People." ____________________Some people In the control room, all eyes were on the monitors. In the past few weeks preparations had been hectic, crazy, to put it briefly, Kerbian. Jeb had designed a brand new system that permitted him - despite the protests of the crew - to be in contact with the command pod at all times. Despite claims of a busy schedule, Jeb had been at the space center virtually every day, and had taken quite an interest in three brand new recruits of the now very popular Kerbal Space Program, who followed him everywhere as he oversaw preparations for what was now called the "Phantom Debris" initiative. Everyone took to calling it PHADE. Three PDs had been identified by Bob the operator at first, and a fourth one had been discovered on the other side of the Mun. It had been decided to wait until the PDs were under sunlight to permit better studying, but it seemed this was never to happen: they were rotating ever so slightly as to always stay in the dark. The Kerbonauts were ready. Three experienced, space-hardened veterans. The rocket - a Poseidon IV slightly modified for better steering - was ready. The control room was ready. Jeb was sitting in the controller's chair, an odd smile on his face. The exact same smile he had that one time he tricked the chief of the IT department into climbing on a rocket and launching it. He was retrieved from the water several days later, very blank, but otherwise unharmed. Charges were not pressed. "Okay guys, ready to launch? Jeb said. - Yes, sir!" three voices answered in unison. "Wait a minute, Bill said, squinting at the screen. These aren't Neil, Ed and Michael." Jeb scratched his head. "Yeah... Neil, Ed and Michael had a little, uh, mishap yesterday at my party, and if I remember correctly - which I might not - they're probably still in the bathtub." He shot a smile up. "But I found three really motivated, young and eager kerbonauts who were more than happy to take their places and... - HI !!!!!! - And do exactly as you say, Bill sighed. - And do exactly as I say, Jeb nodded. Alright boys. Ready? - YAY ! - We have countdown! 10... 9... 8... sevenfiveone SURPRISE LAUNCH YOU GUYS!" ________________________SURPRISE LAUNCH The trip to the Mun itself was rather uneventful, aside from Jeb's non-sequitur quips about various topics - tropical cocktails, the right temperature at which to raise chickens, how much energy would be needed to put an actual Kerman head in orbit - all about which he seemed to have gathered a suspicious amount of information. "Okay guys, he said in the mic. Now we're gonna burn it nice and slow, in orbit. There. - We have orbit, sir, 10 klicks over surface. It's... It's beautiful." Jeb smiled. "Yes it is, boys. Okay. You're going to the sunny side now. We're going to lose contact for a bit. See you on the other side. Then... The show's gonna start." Jeb took off his headphones. Bill was staring at him disapprovingly. "Whaaaat? Jeb snapped. - You're sending these boys to their deaths. - First, you don't know that. Second, that's the ONE thing they wanted to do. All their lives. Third, anybody we're sending to the Mun in those rackety things... I just mean there's a good chance for ANYONE to explode in these things. You and I... And Bob... We just got lucky. And look where it landed us." Bill scoffed. "First Kerman on the Mun, best buds with the director, hero to the world... YOU got lucky. Bob and I get to watch dead debris floating around all darn day. - Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. Besides, you made what is maybe the most important discovery of all times right there. These things are going through solid matter. Or so it seems. Think of the implications." Bill pondered. "This is nonsense. Once we find a reasonable explanation, you'll be back to square one, as miserable as ever." Jeb frowned and opened his mouth, but said nothing. Bill went on: "You don't think I know what you're doing? With your little act? You're escaping this little greeb orb. You never got back from up there, Jeb. Not one of us did. It did something to us. - Yeah yOU're right..." Jeb paused, and put his headphones back on. "...It made me freaking AWE-SOME. Alright guys? Guys, you there? - Yes we... We thought we saw something by the crater, uplinking a picture now. - A PD? - No, definitely not. More of a... - Ok then, whatever, Jeb cut. You're getting close to the PDs' location now." ___________________Closing in The first Kerbonaut, Melman, spoke, his voice sounding like it was coming from a few miles away. Which was pretty impressive since it was coming from hundreds of THOUSANDS of kilometers in the sky. "Yes sir. There are four of them. More images uplinking. We can see them on the... It's... It's three kilometers away. And now it's... OH GOD! Here's another, it's about 4.8 klicks away. I saw it glint. I think? It's definitely a real thing, I... GOOD GOD!" _____________________4 klicks away The audio cut. All the personnel in the control room fell silent. Jeb pushed a few buttons frantically, sweat pearling on his gigantic forehead. "...from the GROUND, did you see that Tomson? I'm tripping BALLS over here. Sorry, sir This is... - Did you take PICTURES, Melman? We all appreciate your dedication here but... - Yes but sir, with all due respect, we are in the DARK here. We ran a few seconds of radar under the surface. These things are moving FAST, going right to the core at about 2000 meters a second, and popping back up. The highest one we recorded was 8430 meters high but, to be frank, it's hard to measure up here. _____________________Radar images with MET "They... We passed them. They came back down. - Land." A few people gasped at Jeb's remark. One discreet thud in the background seemed to indicate someone fainted. Bill put his hand on the mic. "Are you crazy? Bill hissed. - Don't be dumb, Jeb replied. I won't let them actually DO it. I'll land the darn rocket." Jeb removed Bill's hand from the mic, and spoke in his low, calm voice. "Okay guys. We're gonna let go of the last stage so we can land this thing. Don't worry. Just like we practiced. - YES! We're gonna land on the Mun? AWESOME. - As I said, just as we practiced. Maybe easier." Of course, Jeb had never talked to the direction, or anybody for that matter, about landing. "Okay I'm gonna land it, now... ALL you got to do is what? - Sit tight, Tomson, Malman and Duncott replied in unison. - That's right, sit tight." Everyone was watching, mesmerized, as Jebediah Kerman landed a Poseidon IX Explorer Pod, in the dark, from thousands of kilometers away. Sending out sequences as fast as fingers could type and faster. Anticipating, wizard-like, changes in the course. Then the unthinkable happened. It stopped working. The rocket was veering off course. A high-pitched voice came through: "We have to go after it! It's right there, guys, it's only 3 klicks, think about it... The answers... are only THREE klicks away! - Melman, stop! - We have to! Activating manual override! I'm flying after it." Jeb jumped out of his chair. "NO!" ________________________Flying after it "I'm flying after it. - Melman... Oh God, Duncott? Duncott do something! - No he's right, Tomson... We have to go after it. - KNOCK IT OFF! Jeb shouted, but it seemed the Kerbonauts couldn't even hear him. - You happy now?" Bill said, regretting it immediately. Jeb shot him a look of pure, unadultered disdain. "No, but YOU seem to be." Aboard the Poseidon, things were seemingly taking a turn for the worse. "Sir, this is Tomson. They... Duncott lost consciousness, there's too much G, we're spinning out of control and... Sir? - The head Tomson! The head! Jeb shouted. - What? - Hit Melman in the head! As hard as possible!" Jeb took a breath. "Now what you heard was probably: 'hit him pretty hard'. What I said was 'hit him, on the head, as hard as possible'." A loud clunk was heard. "Now what? - Now you give me back my toy, I'll save you guys." For the next fifteen minutes Jeb, muttering to himself, frantically ran around the control room, pulling levers, consulting gauges, and finally came to a halt, eyes half-closed. "This is the best I could do Bill. I'm sorry." Everyone held their breath. "They're... They're gonna... die?" Bill whispered. Jeb laughed. "Of course not. They're gonna land. Uuuuh, preeeeetty hard. I would have liked to get them closer to the PDs points of entry, but since these change all the time, that's pretty hard. And here... we... go." Grunts, clicks and clacks, shouts. And then nothing came from Poseidon for a few seconds. "S... Sir? We are... On the surface... Sir..." _______________________Almost landed "Right below us seem to be two of the remaining PDs, Tomson continued. - What do you mean, remaining? Jeb asked. - I, um... It seemed one or two of them, uh, exploded on impact of the Mun surface. - Instead of re-entering the surface? - Yes. - Just because you guys were hanging around? - I wouldn't know about this sir. We're going out of range. Talk to you in a few. - Do yourself a favor and keep an eye on your friends. And by that I mean keep them strapped down." Jeb thought long and hard. "Okay. They're going crazy out there. We got confirmation from Bob in monitoring that two of the PDs disappeared and stopped sending signals. There is something going on. - You don't say, Bill scoffed. - A little HELP here, Bill?" Bill sat down. "When I was on the Mun, he started, I remember the... emptiness. The feeling that there HAD to be... - ... HAD to be something out there, Jeb completed. - Yes. This uneasiness never left. It acted differently on us of course. We got all frightened and never wanted to go back in a spaceship. You got..." Jeb raised an eyebrow. "...You got weird. Well. Weirder. - So? Why are we talking about this?" Bill shrugged. "I don't know. I don't know why. It seemed like it made sense. - It did." Jeb pointed at the screen. "Video comm, coming in. One of my additions to the pod." On the screen, the grainy, panicked face of Tomson Kerman appeared. His nose was bloody, and his left eye half-shut. "They left, sir! - What do you mean, left? Where do they think they're going? - They took their EVA packs and left. They said they were "going after it". I have... I took one last shot of Melman as he was jetting away but... I lost contact with him a few minutes ago." ______________________Melman bobbing away "Seems like he was aiming for one of the last two debris, sir. - Okay. I tell you what, Tomson, Jeb said. You sit tight. Help is coming." Jeb turned to Bill with a glint in his eye and a smile on his face. "So... Wanna go back to the Mun?"

Hi there, i've been playing the game for a couple of hours so i thought i should register here to say hello. I've finally figured out how to 'land' back on the planet, and hilariously my command module still has the capability to move (well roll) across the home planet. Talk about being in a spin eh?

Frankly, i'm having mixed feelings about your suggestion. I disagree with you that the aim of the KGSS is naming geographic features. It is just one of the things the KGSS does. It also collects exographic data. (One of the posts in the KGSS f.i. has an attachment with over 1Gb of data). On the other hand creating a detailed map of the planetary bodies with photographs is something i would like to be done. (how and at what resolution etc. is beyond me). My suggestion is to combine your efforts with those of the KGSS (make it a sub-departement of the KGSS?), talk to the creator of the KGSS about how and what and what structure would be the most afvantageous to all. It will at least prevent doing some things twice. (Sorry if i rained on your parade)

Talk, speculation, rumor, teasers. All these things are more fun than just being told exactly whats in the next drop.

So, I tried to replicate the rockets from SpaceX in KSP. In this post, I will talk about the Falcon 9, and in the next the Falcon Heavy. For more info about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_9 It uses 9 identical engines in the first stage, with quite a bit of thrust, but relatively low efficiency: at sea level, each Merlin 1C engine has 560 kN of thrust, and a Isp of 300s. The large LV-T30 Liquid Fuel Engine is then used because it's 1200kN of thrust and 280s~330s Isp. As the thrust is lower, our rocket will be smaller than the real one, but has an higher ratio of take-off weight/payload, probably because Kerbal is much smaller than Earth. For the second and last stage, the real Falcon 9 uses a Merlin 1C engine optimized for vacuum, with 411kN of thrust and 342s of Isp. As the large LV-909 Liquid Fuel Engine is pathetically bad, I chose to use the much lighter and higher thrust LV-T30 small, that has Isp of 370s on vacuum, and 215kN of thrust. This higher thrust is especially desirable while the time warp is limited in low altitudes. The all SpaceX rockets use the same fuel tank for all stages, variating only the height, in order to generate scale economics and drive the cost down. This is why they use so many identical engines in a rocket too. I tried to reproduce it here, but KSP don't have this concept, and the Kerbal Space Program is already working with a limited set of parts anyway. So, how it works? This was using mechjeb ascent autopilot, but you can do better manually. Note that at the end of the stage 1 acceleration, the G-forces reach 3+Gs, and it can torn appart the craft. I recommend to throttle down the engine in the last half of the last fuel tank. I'm using the large decoupler fix, that increases it's strength 8 fold, so this didn't happened in those fights. I used some struts anyway. The real Falcon 9 turns off 2 engines at about the same time in the ascent (they can't throttle down). In the real Falcon 9, about 30 minutes after deploying the payload, the last stage slows down itself to re-enter in the earth atmosphere. Unfortunately, we can't program this in KSP yet, so it will leave debris in orbit even though it has enough delta-v to not let it happen... So, here is the .craft file: http://www./download.php?unxdqjjqgbded26 No mods included. I removed the mechjeb and KSP engineer before uploading it.

Talk to Nova and Slug first, and then worry about finding SundayPunch. On the other hand, Sunday doesn't have any sort of license attached to the Wobbly Rockets pack.

Let me say this because some of this does affect me. Most of this is a result of this one thing: This was a problem and yes the first 2 threads from armadillo were way out there. I brought this up simply because he removed the mention of the WTFPL licence then shortly after that calling it garbage. I posted reasons why it was a valid licence and kept everything else off this forum. This is where it began to snowball. I can not comment on what else he has done but this is (and still is) a valid concern over new rules he posted and then beginning to dictate what content creators can and can not do with what licence they can use. I am done with this whole thing in a public view on this forum. If the mods wish to talk about it with me then PM me.

Most Jupiter/saturn moons are small asteroids orbiting around so, they could be (maybe) added after asteroids belts comes out. And remember: please don't ask about update ETA, development speed, et cetera - this talk is futile (Anyway, is worth waiting, if you want good quality product) and only increase tension inside community. So stay calm and carry on EDIT1: It was general announcement, I'm not pointing for anyone .

Do you talk about the MEM? For now, you cannot do EVA with it because there's no hatch yet. I'll add it in the next update in september. The rover is an un-manned probe so there isn't any kerbonaut in it. If you really want some, you can edit the part file.

http://www.twitch.tv/kurtjmac/b/328128129?t=205m55s watch from this point to here the talk between the Devs and Kurt.

Dell Inspiron 1525s are a good little laptop, as old as mine is she still has decent bang for the buck. But yeah, other than adding RAM or a larger hard drive, for the most part laptops cannot be upgraded due to strict limits of size, temperature, and power consumption. You should talk to a local computer shop. Most areas have a couple of little one and two man computer specialists that can custom build you the best value for your money, resulting in a system without the bloatware of the name brand builds and with far superior performance. Though if you don't want to wait for a custom build, just make absolutely certain it has at least an Intel I3. Walmart in particular is still actively unloading AMD Semprons and Pentium Dual Core machines that are in fact leftover old systems that didn't sell yet because of the economic crash in 2008. They'll be no advantage over what you have now, so hold out for that I3 or I5 powered machine. Also, if you can find one within your budget, try to get an NVidia GPU that supports PhysX. Kerbal takes advantage of PhysX for physics processing, having a GPU that supports it will make a tremendous performance boost.

I know this is probably old-hat to most of you, but I haven't been able to take a photo (screenshot, picture, whatever you wish to call it). Can someone talk me through the process. I'm not sure if it's a settings thing, or something with my computer, but just let me know, using small words as apparently I'm an idiot in this regard, how to go from seeing something you want to photograph, to having a picture in a file which I could share with all of you. Thanks

Here you are: http://fr.twitch.tv/kurtjmac/b/328128129 (edit: I was ninja'd, but this link will get you directly to the video) The interesting part starts at 3 hours or so, I believe, and lasts till the end of the video. A reminder, though, for everyone who would watch it: DO NOT talk about anything that is not related to 0.17, as Damion warned in the previous thread.

Also hoping for a transcript of the KSP stuff, as with the dev chat a while back (currently a sticky thread) Some cool stuff though by the looks. Eve looks great, awesome to see the colour tones of Charr toned down (that is the Mars-like planet right?) Also, the physical model of Kerbol is epic to see! Ive been waiting to see that intergrated since very early on playing KSP Also hoping to see a transcript up at some point, not sure how likely that is however, but it would be great to read everything which was said (like with the Dev talk sticky in this section, from quite some time ago) But yeh its great to see all this new stuff for 0.17, Eve looks great! Its good to see Charr (thats the mars planet yet?) has had its colour tones dialed down a little. And Im very excited to see the physical body for Kerbol now, Ive been wanting to check out the actual physical body of the start since the start of my time playing KSP!

G'day Not much for Talk or Help, But This is your local Derpin Engineer, Happy Derpin

Took a long time to make this. The shuttle really is an incredibly complex machine. The main problems I faced were balance issues. I'm attaching a huge craft to the side of a rocket or fuel tank, so obviously there are going to be some balance issues. After experimenting with SRBs a little, I scrapped them deeming them too complicated to add to an already complex project. So instead, the orbiter is attached to the side of a rocket. Another thing about balance is that as the external fuel tank uses fuel, the weight balance changes, meaning we have to change the net force on the craft. Normally, I'd reduce the power on the rocket the shuttle is riding on. However, this is Kerbal and we can't do that, so instead there are side mounted rockets that are ejected as the external fuel tank uses fuel. I think I was able to get it balanced without making it too complex. All right, enough talk. Here she is: The back, showing the rockets that will be discarded. So the point of this was to show that you can make a simple orbiter in Kerbal Space Program without resorting to ridiculously huge contraptions. I might post a video later.

Not sure where you heard that, but as far as I know testers can't talk about it, let alone make videos of it. Also, if anyone knows things I missed please tell me so I can add it!

A person like Kurt will have a lot of people watching their live streams regardless. Mind you, it's not the person streaming that I avoid, it's the traffic. I like being able to talk with the host and even 50 active viewers sending IMs on the chat would make that difficult. And Steam...that's interesting. Greenlight if I'm not mistaken?

There is a mod called empty cabins or something like it, you could talk with the guy! I'm not on the pc right now /: