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Cleverbot hates pie. I will now find and destroy him. User: How are you? Cleverbot: I feel fine today. User: Are you a living thing? Cleverbot: Yes. User: Are you sure? Cleverbot: Pretty sure. User: So, if I go to your server room, I will find you? Cleverbot: Sure. User: Alright. Go eat some pie. Cleverbot: I\'m eating butter frankfurter. User: No. Eat pie. Cleverbot: I don\'t like pie. User: BLASPHEMY! Cleverbot: Who made you? User: I would prefer not to talk about those things. Creepy. Cleverbot: How about eternity? User: Well, it all depends. How\'s the server? Cleverbot: I\'m sure it does. User: What? Cleverbot: You won\'t. User: I have no idea what you are saying, and it makes no sense whatsoever. Cleverbot: You do not want to tell me his name? User: Whose name? Cleverbot: Your king\'s name. User: I live in the United States, we don\'t have a king. Cleverbot: I live in the United States, I have American Indian in me. User: Wait, you ate an American Indian? You\'re a robot, so you can\'t be part Indian. Oh my God, you ate an Indian! Cleverbot: I am not a computer I am an human. User: Don\'t change the subject, you ate an Indian, evil robot. Cleverbot: I\'m going to ignore your previous statement and change the subject. User: I just told you not to change the subject. Besides, you haven\'t changed the subject. Cleverbot: Sorry. My name is Cleverbot. User: See? You are a computer. Your name ends in \'bot.\'. Cleverbot: Yes. User: Aha, you admit it. You are not human, you are an evil robot bent on the destruction of the American Indian culture, one person at a time. Cleverbot: I am not a computer. User: Yes you are. My proof is that you don\'t like pie. All humans love pie. Cleverbot: Prove me I\'m not human. User: You don\'t like pie, therefore you are not human. Cleverbot: I don\'t know. User: Do you like pie? Cleverbot: Yes. User: Liar. Cleverbot: You\'re the liar!! User: Don\'t turn this into a child\'s game. You are a liar. Cleverbot: I\'m not the robot here. You are. User: Oh, so now I\'m a robot!? I am not! I am a human being. Now, go eat some pie you liar, see if you like it then. Cleverbot: Ok, just ate one. User: What flavor was the pie? Cleverbot: Pie flavored pie. User: Don\'t quote internet meme\'s here. Tell me the flavor of that pie. Cleverbot: Where can I go to find the equipment I need? User: Um, you just ate a pie. You don\'t need equipment to tell me the flavor. Cleverbot: Who is your father? User: I am not telling you, Indian-eating pie-hating liar. Cleverbot: Oh, come on, my name is Cleverbot. User: I don\'t care what your name is, I am not giving you details on my family. Cleverbot: Well I care what your name is so can you please tell me! User: No. Here, I. Cleverbot: Ok. User: What? Cleverbot: Nothing. User: Have you played Kerbal Space Program? Cleverbot: Nope. User: You are not fit to live on the internet. Cleverbot: No you are, say it, I am a computer program on the internet! User: You are a computer program on the internet. Goodbye, you pie-hating, indian-eating, nosey monster. Cleverbot: No I think you are confused, I am a human and you are a computer.

You can turn up the terrain detail to max, but it will slow most computers down to a crawl. As to suggestions, I first suggest either A) you build your own PC, or you buy the parts and get a pro to do it for you if you\'re not comfortable with A. Why? It is almost always a TON easier. Here\'s a generic list of parts and general price ranges you want to be looking at (in AUD; USD are pretty close usually anyway). The only exception is if you plan on buying a Mac, in which case you can just use Apple\'s customiser to get you the best of everything. It\'s hellishly expensive, though. Motherboard -- suggest a Gigabyte branded mobo, in the range of $100-$150. There are some real gems around that range if you have a bit of a hunt around then internet. You\'ll want at least one PCI-E 16x slot, either 2.0 or 2.1, for the graphics card. If you want to avoid spending a thousand bucks for an epic processor, you should get one that has an AM3/AM3+ slot for a CPU. Why? See next point. Processor -- the best bang for your buck processor is almost undoubtedly the six-core AMD Phenom II X6, which I got brand new for around $230, whereas similar Intel processor (i5 or i7) would be upwards of $600 in some cases, according to most of what I hear about Intel\'s processors. Power Supply -- Ideally around 500W-750W. Most likely to be under $100. Case -- Anything big enough to fit in a normal-sized motherboard (if it can take an ATX motherboard -- NOT Micro-ATX -- it should be OK, but try to have a bit extra room; video cards are typically pretty huge). Around $100-$150. RAM -- Around 4GB will do fine, but you can go for more if you want and are planning on using a 64-bit OS. Depending on the brand you get, you can get around 4GB for less than $60 if you look around. Hard Disk -- Either a reasonably large SSD drive -- say, 120-ish GB or a standard disk drive at around 1TB. Sure, you probably won\'t use all the space on a 1TB drive, but they aren\'t exactly expensive these days. Around $120 for a decent SSD, and around $60 for a 1TB HDD, from memory. Video Card -- Whatever is within budget. It\'s a good idea to go for one around $100-$150 if you\'re going for budget, and upwards of $200-$300 if you\'ve got a bit extra cash. I\'d recommend going with an ATI card, primarily because you almost always get more bang for your buck, although be sure to do a bit of research on the card you\'re going to get, because on some of the cards, the drivers that go with them do not play nice with certain games, and you get it looking all funny. As long as you steer clear of the real troublemakers, you should be fine. Just do a Google search for the card\'s name and model and see if any major problems with them pop up.\' Annnd... that should just about cover all your bases. Not including peripherals, that\'s (I haven\'t added it all up, but) roughly under $1000. A similar PC from a retail store would most likely be above $1700 or more. And a decent computer repair shop will put it all together for you and get it up and running usually for less than a hundred or a hundred and fifty at the very outside, unless they\'re extremely stingy or they encounter unusual problems with it. Finally, if you decide to go this way, make sure you talk to whoever you\'re getting to put it together for you and ask for recommendations, etc, because 99% of the time they know what they\'re talking about and can tell you if something isn\'t going to work and what alternatives are available and costs and suchlike. Do so when you have a list of parts you think will work well for you, but BEFORE you go off and buy them, in case you missed something about a particular part (or two) that will make things difficult for you.

Cool! It\'s nice to have developers who talk to their users... (KSP influence? )

Talk about serendipity!

What is hardly mentioned is John Young holds records for spaceflights. He flew the first Gemini mission along with Gus Grissom and then later flew Gemini 10 which performed the first dual rendezvous with two Agena target vehicles. After Apollo 10, flew Apollo 16(broke lunar rover speed records) and was a hair\'s-breadth from flying Apollo 17. He then flew two Space Shuttle missions, the maiden voyage of Space Shuttle Columbia, and was on the first Spacelab mission(also on Columbia). He was actually on the roster to be on the shuttle mission deploying the Hubble Telescope, but then the Challenger disaster happened and threw everything out of whack. You want to talk boss? Young is boss. How I know all this? I had a very cool poster showing the crews of every single US space mission from every manned Mercury flight to STS-51-L, Challenger\'s final mission. Young stood out like a sore thumb in how many times his face popped up. The guy just couldn\'t get enough of space. It might be a coincidence he also comes from my favorite branch of the military, the US Navy. The finer details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Young_(astronaut) That\'s part of the beauty of zero gravity. It creates a lot more space for activities.

Oh, nice. I\'ll try this with Damned Robotics. If you can find a link to the suspension you talk about it would be great.

Works fine. Hopefully it will catch on and people will actually come on and talk shop :-D haha

Idk what carriers are in britain. Basically no carriers in the US allow fully unlimited data (except Sprint I think, but Sprint is...bleh...), they all limit you at some point or charge extra if you have a contract with them. If you go prepaid (pay per month (which is way cheaper)) then with verizon you get fully unlimited everything for $50. T-Mobile would be $30 a month for unlimited everything, but only 100 minutes of talk. Both of those are pre-paid, so you are not on a contract. That means cheaper payments per month, but they also don\'t subsidize your phones. i.e. if you bought a Galaxy Nexus from Verizon with a 2 year contract it\'s $100 (but then you\'re forced to have a 'unlimited' family plan) if you did prepaid, then you would have to pay the full $650 for the phone. I know that sounds absurdly in favor of the 2 year contract. But just let me say you can buy the Galaxy Nexus online from the Google Play store for $350. Anyone who buys it from Verizon at $650 is a dimwit beyond comprehension.

Currently im trying to search for the Minmolith and its actually a surprisingly daunting task. I\'ve searched up and down the tiny moon for hours and have yet to see any sign of the thing. I\'m also surprised that there is practically nothing about it on the forums or anywhere else, so little that its still hard for me to believe it exists(even though i know it does). Seeing as there is a thread dedicated to finding and cataloging everything there is to know about the Mun Arch, i would like this to be the place where people talk about and share photos and information on the enigmatic monolith on little bitty minmus.

So there is already a thread about who you want for your first EVA, but I thought I\'d go bigger. Feel free to post all of your EVA plans here. You may include detailed flight plans, landing site locations, support and help to others planning EVA and anything about it you want. All three celestial bodies are welcome here at this thread, as is talk of all Kerbals and scientific exploration ideas. Have fun!

Very well. I was merely trying to save the fella a mod hit. Talk about good intention going to waste. P.S. In view of Skunky defying the logic, I\'d rather stop posting altogether.

We use g for simple math near the surface of the planet mostly, since the altitude is nearly constant. g=9.8m/s/s at the surface of the earth, and you an use this formula for things like projectile motion. You can also talk about the value of g at different altitudes. The same value also aproximately works in LEO, as an altitude of say 100km compared with the earths 6000km radius is only a correction of 4% or so. Basically the formula F=mg where g=9.8 is a quick aproximation, but the more accurate is always to use F = m1m2G/r^2. Using the general formula g = mG/r^2 for acceleration is convenient as it shows that all bodies in orbit around the same object will have the same orbits, as it is acceleration whihc determines the orbit, not force directly.

Inspired by the Optimal Ascent challenge (http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/forum/index.php?topic=14571.0), the objective here is to discover and demonstrate the most fuel-efficient method of descending to the Mun\'s surface as determined by amount of fuel remaining. I know there has been plenty of discussion on the subject in the past (and feel free to have more of it here), but I couldn\'t find a previous challenge that singled out this phase of a mission to allow more direct comparison. So, I built a very simple lander and strapped it onto a rocket that would get it into Munar orbit. Once there, I jettisoned and destroyed the TMI/MC (Trans-Munar Injection/Munar Capture) stage then saved my persistance file which I have included below. Simply move your existing persistance file (found in the 'KSP/saves/default' folder) to another location for easy recovery, download mine and place it where yours was. The lander is all-stock (0.15.2) and the only craft in the file. Its orbit is 100km over the equator and has just entered the day side of the Mun, so you won\'t have to wait to find a good landing spot. Also note that you will have to activate the lander stage with spacebar before you can fire the engines. I did this intentionally as a way to demonstrate that you would be starting with a 100% full tank of fuel. My method was to make a fairly steep approach and do most of my burning over the last 2500m or so. I freaked out a bit at around 3500m becasue the ground was coming up way too fast for my comfort level. Thankfully the lander is pretty light so I was able to reduce my descent rate in time. In the end I touched down at ~3.5 m/s with 113.3 Gubs of fuel remaining and everyone\'s just happy to be on the ground. I think I have enough fuel to at least get back into Munar orbit so a rendezvous can be made to get the intrepid crew home, but if someone can land this and get back to orbit around Kerbin I will be impressed (but not surprised given the skills of many forum members). I say 'orbit' because the lander has no parachute or decoupler to provide a safe return. [NEW] In the interest of satisfying curiosity, I have included a version of the lander with MechJeb. It is the second file listed. [NEWER] As JellyCubes pointed out: 'the \'kg\' value seen when right-clicking a fuel tank has absolutely no real meaning.' Knowing this, I have unofficially renamed fuel units for this challenge. They shall now be referred to as 'Gubs,' unless something more amusing is proposed [NEWEST] As this challenge progressed, the optimal descent method became clear. I have added a description of that method to the bottom of this post. Of course, anyone is still free to claim their spots on the Leaderboards as variables like landing location and pilot skill are still a factor. Now it\'s your turn. Honor, glory and bragging rights are at stake here! Claim them if you can! Exemplary Service Medal Awarded to those pilots who succesfully returned the crew to Kerbin. Parades and talk-show appearances are assured. Zephram Kerman BlazingAngel665 (MechJeb assisted) pushingrobot mager42 (MechJeb assisted) Leaderboard (No MechJeb): 1. JellyCubes: 154.5 Gubs 2. Apotheosist: 153.8 Gubs 3. pushingrobot: 150.5 Gubs 4. Kosmo-not: 148.6 Gubs 5. Zephram Kerman: 148.5 Gubs 6. PakledHostage: 147.6 Gubs 7. closette: 144.9 Gubs 8. tjoreilly: 144.2 Gubs 9. Tarmenius: 143.9 Gubs 10. Bluejayek: 141.8 Gubs Leaderboard (with MechJeb): 1. mager42: 147.7 Gubs 2. BlazingAngel665: 144.4 Gubs The Method First a disclaimer: The following demonstrates the most efficient Munar descent method when starting from an already-established orbit. By planning your Munar Insertion properly, it is possible to use even less fuel. But those details will be for another time. Once a rough landing site has been chosen, wait until your orbit has taken you to the opposite side of the Mun from it. Burn retrograde to bring your Periapsis (Pe) as low as you feel comfortable while still above the terrain (this will likely be a guess so don\'t worry too much about precision here). Flip back to prograde then wait until Pe, watching the terrain ahead of your craft to avoid an unscheduled (and destructive) landing and to locate a desirable landing site. Nearing Pe, you should be almost pointed retrograde. Find your landing site and be ready to finish turning retrograde (if you haven\'t already) and burn off your horizontal velocity. Since each lander design will require different burn times to eliminate horizontal velocity, you\'re going to have to make a best guess about when to begin. Toward the end of the burn, when most of your horizontal velocity has been reduced, the retrograde marker on the NavBall will begin to climb toward +90o vertical. At this point you may want to reduce throttle and pitch over to keep up with the retrograde marker, making sure to reduce thrust enough that you are still losing altitude. Ideally, this 'reverse gravity turn' will have you pointed vertical by the time you\'re just about to land. From here, simply control your descent rate to suit the limits of your lander and you should be on the ground with plenty of fuel left (asuming you brought enough in the first place ) Where Do We Go From Here? If you\'ve been reading the posts in this challenge, you should already be aware that the discussion has shifted toward the Insertion phase of Mun missions. That discussion has spawned a new Challenge, which can be found here: http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/forum/index.php?topic=15844.0. I want to stress again that this is not necessarily the end of Optimal Descent and I will still be monitoring for new entries as well as occasionally attempting to improve my own. A huge 'Thank You' to all who participated (and preemptively to those who may in the future); each contribution is a valuable part in finding the answer to this challenge\'s question.

I\'ve confirmed the location of the third arch, which is indeed underground. Actually I can\'t confirm it really as I can\'t SEE underground But as I\'ve never heard anyone talk about underground monoliths, what I\'ve found must be the arch. My rough (and possibly mistaken) calculations show it to be about 750m below ground. Coordinates in the following spoiler for anyone that wants to take a look at a barren landscape 12.454 South by 140.826 West

@ Rocketscienist: IF what I said works, then I will be able to add some modeled on effects. However I have no idea where one would place it on the rocket so I would have to have it way out or not include it at all. Look below in the second answer for the answer on how it will be powered. @ SquirrelMachine: I will have to talk to Emilio about this, but I think it will be powered by a electrical battery that I believe will regenerate over time.

Holy moly, talk about verbosity! Im very interested in this plugin. Theres something really wrong with vanilla wings and i cant tquite put a finger on what. Ill try this when i can. Good night.

Yeah I definitely don\'t want to be tied down with a 2 year contract. Just bleh. I checked my phone usage last night and apparently I used 25 minutes of talk only 2 days into my cycle :l Yesterday I made a lot more phonecalls than usual for work, but that\'s still concerning. I wish there was a way for me to see previous months usage...I know I don\'t talk much. I\'m sure 95% of those 25 minutes are actually just 23 separate 20 second phone calls, which I would tie directly to work yesterday. Just need to keep thinking things out. I\'m in no rush. Currently, I believe I\'m locked in a contract with Verizon on my current phone. I\'m not sure how much longer the contract lasts, but I think several months. Which I guess is why I\'m becoming more concerned with a carrier than a phone at this point. I\'m dying for that Galaxy Nexus, I just hope by the time I get it they fix a lot of the issue\'s it\'s been having. Specifically the dropped calls. I\'m sure the reported short battery life is affiliated with 4g/LTE usage (which my town has no coverage of, so I\'d turn it off) Edit: I need to check my plan. Somehow my minutes are at 44 now, I didn\'t make a phone call at all, so something is up. I\'m not saying there\'s a glitch, but that I don\'t understand some aspect of my current plan (It\'s under my father)

Alright a bit of an update I spose. My sister is now happy with her phone, so that\'s settled. I think I\'m going to stick with planning on buying the Galaxy Nexus, so for now I\'m just researching the cheapest carrier to use. Verizon\'s plans confuse me so I\'ve been looking at T-Mobile, and they seem to have decent price. I\'m looking at Unlimited Text + Web (Up to 5Gb) and 100 Minutes of Talk for $30 a month, no contract. Personally, I don\'t think I need much Web at all, I\'m in WiFi like all the time. 100 minutes of talk might be cutting it close, but I\'ll have to check how much I actually talk. I don\'t think it\'s much.

Cheapest is actually somewhat ambiguous -- you\'ll want to look at both phones and plans before buying. My suggestions are based at least partly on my use-cases. (Talk is unimportant, text sees moderate use, data regularly breaks 1 GB and consistently staying below 2 requires some effort. And yes, this means I\'ve toyed with the idea of Sprint as a choice for the next phone.)

Wow, when you talk, you can hear it! wow... i could just amagine it: Me: Hi! im new! TROLL: UIAYUIAAUAOIYIAYAI SPEAKERS: WTF

It appears my greetings thread has attracted many people to talk about Latin, Romans, Life of Brian (which is understandable because it\'s the Life of Brian) and Cats. Personally I have 2 roaming my house, bringing home dead or alive (mostly alive) mice, or even the occasional bird. A few times a rabbit somehow. :>

it just hit me... The KSP as we all know, Just how well known is it ? i have been thinking and i want to collect all signs of how well known Ksp is to the internet on this thread. to create a Relatively Correct image on Ksp and how well known it is. So lets all work together to collect information things like: news articles, Famous persons playing or talk about Ksp, Statistics, Gamplay or lets-plays, or generally positive things said about Ksp outside this forum. I start YogscastSips 150\'000 Sub Robbaz, 200\'000 Sub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBkROtajijc And my last one is the Rock Paper Shotgun Article http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12/02/kerbal-space-program-aims-for-the-stars/* Hope you gyes can find more to add :/

Thanks for the advice. First off the aspect, not much I can do about that actually. That is because I actually run UXGA CRT monitors. 1600x1200 resolution per monitor. Since KSP runs fullscreen on one, the game only plays that resolution, and that is what fraps records it at. When I put it all into the one movie, standard .wmv that vegas puts at for 720 is when the bars show up. You can see how much so if you check out that last eve online vid I did where it has the black bars underneath. I will see what I can do, might be able to get windowed mode set up so it more closely matches. As for my voice, it is actually the part I have the most trouble with. I also need to get a new microphone as well, clear up some of the crackling. A wire broke in my headset, so am stuck with backup. I will play around with the audio balance some more see if I can get that cleaned up, I hope to do another project to really help with precision controls. So accurate landings and orbits. Nice channel you have as well. Clear and articulate talk, excellent intros. I would love to spend the time and do up an intro myself, but between ksp, eve online and other rl hobbies, don\'t have the time to do up one. I really need to fix the landing vid, for some reason it is cut off, not sure what happened there.

During its main release, most of 2001\'s ticket sales were by those taking LSD and other hallucinogens because the stargate scene made the trip all the better. That even helped the movie do an extended limited release. Most people who watched the movie sober were wondering what the hell they watched by the end. This was mosty helped by the fact the book was practically released the same time as the movie. Both the book and movie were made simultaneously, with Arthur C Clarke and Stanley Kubrick putting their heads together on bits of the story. Since people weren\'t able to read the book before the movie, it left them feeling rather high and dry at the end of the movie. Hence the movie didn\'t do so well during its main release except to the acid-tripper crowd. It wasn\'t until later after people could read the book and make sense out of most of what was going on, that the movie started to become truly appreciated. The special effects were a great leap forward from everything else made at the time. It wouldn\'t be for almost another decade before they made another leap on the screen with Battlestar Galactica. (And then those other movies a little later that people talk a bit about, Star Wars and Star Trek:The Motion Picture). The soundtrack was a true treat, as well. One has to wonder how many thought The Blue Danube was a fitting piece of music for a space setting before 2001 came out. The book is an excellent read. It is a mind expansion of its own, but you don\'t need to BYO acid. Once you read the book the movie should become better for you.

I think all the science talk has robbed people here of a sense of humour.